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[aphelion4]

Characters were of course better in DA:I, but a modded Skyrim is unrivaled in looks and landscape. It's laughable BioWare's definition of "Ultra" setting textures are what looks to be 512x512. I don't see myself playing DA:I for the hundreds of hours I spent in Skyrim (and that will increase when I upgrade my video card so it can actually run it with ENB). There's just no competition there.

 

However, DA:I beats vanilla Skyrim in every department. It was quite bare and ugly and pre-SkyUI, difficult to stomach. Mods changed everything.

[scootshoot]

Characters were of course better in DA:I, 

With or without cutscenes?  Without cutscenes DAI characters would not have that same oompf

[Ravenmyste]

Strangely enough I've not see any vs Witcher 3 threads O.o

that what wont happen due witcher 3  just got delayed again till march

[Farangbaa]

Not even a contest. I struggled really hard and got like 2 hours into Skyrim.

What a terrible game.

Tried again, quit after like an hour.

Horrible game.

And the worst part of it all? People keep saying you need to install mods to properly enjoy the game. How does that it make a good game in ANY way? If it needs so much outside input, it's just a horrible game.

[elrofrost]

It`s kind of amusing how many people don`t finish the main quest in Skyrim. I`m pretty sure it`s not just because they got "distracted" but because of the unconscious feeling that if they do it, the game ends. But it really doesn`t... The main quest is not as bad as it is portrayed to be, only the final boss is rather lame. Other stuff that happens during that quest is actually more appealing than DA:I:s finale. I highly suggest that people finish that quest at least once.

 

In reality, Skyrim sort of assumes that you might have done it before you go and do the last DLC (listen to the main bad guys dialogue there, its kind of amusing).

Agreed. I was in awe (in Skyrim) when a certain meet occurred hosted by the Greybreads with the Empire, Nords, and the Blades attending (don't want to give away much here - you'll know what I'm talking about if you run through the main quest in Skyrim). Also Parthy - what a great character. Thank god someone wrote a mod so you can avoid a trough decision with him.  And the final convo with him was simply great. Also, anyone thinking of playing Slyrim run through the Dark Brotherhood line (at least one) also the Thieves Guild - becoming a Nightingale is a lot of fun. And if you throw in the Interesting NPC's mod - you get many more charaters like this with back storyies and quests - and fully voices and can be romanced.

And Alduin was a better villain than Cory. I'm sorry, but I beat Cory at level 16 - skipping half the zones and didn't even die once - though out the whole end game. On normal mode. Compare this against fighting Alduin (Skyrim) - well you can't compare it. Not to mention even if Alduin got easy for you - there's a mod for that.

I'm not trying to belittle DAI. It's a great fun game. But in my opinion is has little replay value (if you could mod it that would change of course). Add in the TERRIBLE PC controls, 8 skill slot bar lock - and I'm hoping a DLC changes all of this.

[scootshoot]

Not even a contest. I struggled really hard and got like 2 hours into Skyrim.

What a terrible game.

Tried again, quit after like an hour.

Horrible game.

And the worst part of it all? People keep saying you need to install mods to properly enjoy the game. How does that it make a good game in ANY way? If it needs so much outside input, it's just a horrible game.

Skyrim wasn't for you, it happens.  Not for everyone.  Based off sales you were but a minority who thought Skyrim was the most horrible game ever, lol

 

That said, Skyrim had over 20million sales which is unheard of.  They are in a select minority company at those sales figues.

 

While lot of us speak of mods including me, PC gamers were a miniscule minority compared to console (non modded) gamers who went out and bought Skyrim in droves.

 

http://www.statistic...s-v-statistics/

Skryim Sales By Platform  

XBox 360 59 %

Playstation 3 27 %

PC 14 %

[simtam]

Hello, everyone.

 

There are many differences between those games - setting, combat mechanics, theme&mood, party companions (or lack of them), and so on. 

What I find the most interesting difference is that DA:I is meant to be a role-playing campaign about being a head (or at least a figurehead) of certain faction in the world of Thedas, (that is, titular Inquisition). Whereas Skyrim turns out to have been designed as a campaign for a classic rpg adventurer archetype, or actually a not-so-narrow variety of archetypes, while maintaining a classless PC game mechanics; and that is also interesting.

 

The Witcher 3, sadly delayed again, is entirely different variety, because it is based on a book series. Like "Betrayal of Krondor", for which you can easily find which of the R.Feist novel(s) it draws from, the Witcher game series draws from Witcher book series; Witcher 1 from early books (striga, rose order), Witcher 2 from mid-books (with its climax drawing from the Thanedd book events), and Witcher 3 seems to be drawing most from the later books in those series (Geralt + Yen,Ciri; emperor Emhyr presence). 

[miscmarilyn]

I wish Bioware & Bethesda would marry and have a RPG baby. The characters & storytelling of bioware with the open world & inventory of Bethesda would be awesome. The closest we'll get is Witcher 3 which will have an open world as well as a character-driven story.

I also think the first person view in Skyrim adds a lot to mood. I get scared sneaking through dungeons not knowing what's around the corner. You lose that in 3rd person view, plus there's no way to really be stealthy as a group of 4. I was never scared in DAI, just terrified by Corphy's ugly face.

[wiredrawn]

Two of the more popular RPG's of recent that I enjoy for various reasons, despite their flaws and shortcomings. I enjoyed Skyrim's open world, do whatever you want adventure. DAI's fast paced combat is a definite improvement over its predecessors imo.

 

Since DAI's open world is heavily influenced from Skyrim, I'm curious to see how you RPG vets think DAI stacks up against Skyrim. Personally DAI reminds me more of Dragon's Dogma than anything.

 

If I had to choose one, I'd say Skyrim edges out DAI for having a more fleshed out world and rewarding exploration. But I guess it's safe to say, that DAI is Bioware's Skyrim.

 

 

Even I have to admit DAI wasn't an attempt at competing with skyrim, as much of an 'open-world' .. 'sandbox' type of guy I am, they may have initially intended it to be that way .. as in the first alpha video with events that trigger with or without you there etc, but let's face it, they went back to the it's about a story that will have a specific outcome and you as the PC help shape how/when the inevitable occurs, plus it's more of a this is gonna happen/cutscene type game.

 

Skyrim though was build from the ground up as a roam type game and a story/direction slapped on afterwards, to me it seems at least. Yes, they have lore and a backstory and what have you, but the fun of that game was intentionally designed for the PC result of roam and explore. 

 

So in my eyes, 2 separate types of games, while DAI does have collecting resources and semi-roaming like a typical sandbox game it just doesn't have all the necessary elements of a sandbox game, it's just a linear, gated typically designed game with added embellishments to mask it's, in my opinion, short story.

[Andrew Lucas]

Skyrim wasn't for you, it happens. Not for everyone. Based off sales you were but a minority who thought Skyrim was the most horrible game ever, lol

That said, Skyrim had over 20million sales which is unheard of. They are in a select minority company at those sales figues.

While lot of us speak of mods including me, PC gamers were a miniscule minority compared to console (non modded) gamers who went out and bought Skyrim in droves.

http://www.statistic...s-v-statistics/
Skryim Sales By Platform
XBox 360 59 %
Playstation 3 27 %
PC 14 %

I do enjoy Skyrim, but sales doesn't mean quality, or else Michael Bay's Transformers would've been the best movies ever.

[wiredrawn]

Let me start by saying I think DAI is an awesome game and a giant step in the right direction, as far as the franchise goes. That being said, there is no such thing as a perfect game and if we are comparing Skyrim to DAI, I would say Skyrim edges out DAI just a bit mostly because of their cooler side quests (like joining the Dark Brotherhood and the Thieves Guild etc.), and better exploration. Skyrim had a more immersive quality to it for me as well because of its little roleplaying touches like being able to stay at an inn and sit at the bar and initiate a dialogue with the person sitting next to you.

I am certainly no expert in making games, I can only volunteer my likes and dislikes, but if Bioware got rid of about half the fetch quests in DAI and replaced them with more significant and engaging side quests (something like expanding Josie's personal quest where instead of having most of the events play out at the war table we actually engage with the House of Repose on a number of ocassions), that would go a long way to improving my personal experience.

 

 

As most would have I believe, like accepting a companions side quest is joining the thieves guild, so many to go then you reach the top and gain some benefit or repeatable quests. Again though this is where the development I believe shifted, they had a story that pans out in mind, with little deviation from it, so the development process probably didn't conclude in a quest system like Skyrim ended up building, so it would have probably been much more work to add in all the embellishments for this additional content then slapping together the same in skyrims api.

[DarkKnightHolmes]

Skryim is a better open world. DAI has a better story and better characters.

 

Conclusion: Elder Scroll: Oblivion and DAO wins!

[ShadowWeaver2012]

TBH even though I bought Skyrim, and tried to play it a few times, it ended up being a really expensive coaster for me. I don't know why I couldn't get into it. I think it might have been the over-realism of the dingy, dirty people, houses, world. It kind of depressed me.

 

I do know that back in the middle ages and beyond it was really like that though. I really don't know how humanity managed to survive being so rank.

 

Edit: I guess mods help. Had it on console though.

[Precursor Meta]

Skyrim has a better world (when its not glitching)
Dragon Age has the better characters (when they're not glitching)

[Lebanese Dude]

Modded Skyrim is pretty much in my top 5 RPGs. I probably won't play the next TES game at this point, at least not on release and til a lot of mods are out.

 

The base game isn't all that though, so I'll give this to DAI which does everything but the sandbox better... which is the entire appeal of TES games.

[Rannik]

Skyrim without a doubt, even without mods.

http://www.statistic...s-v-statistics/
Skryim Sales By Platform
XBox 360 59 %
Playstation 3 27 %
PC 14 %

That site is bullshit (like vgchartz and many others), they claim those figures come from Steam which is false.

Steam does not release figures, period, they've stated it multiple times already.

[cronshaw]

Not even a contest. I struggled really hard and got like 2 hours into Skyrim.

What a terrible game.

Tried again, quit after like an hour.

Horrible game.

And the worst part of it all? People keep saying you need to install mods to properly enjoy the game. How does that it make a good game in ANY way? If it needs so much outside input, it's just a horrible game.

If you only got 2 hrs in and hated it mods probably wouldn't help you enjoy the game

chance are it's just not your type of game

I loved it and didn't install a single mod, so I'd have to disagree that mods are integral to enjoyment

[Pablo Cavalieri]

Theres not versus, DAI MASSIVE WIN!

Im in my second paly of DAI.

I like how Skyrim looks, but I cant finish because is boring like hell.

[leaguer of one]

Hey lets do a topic about apples vs oranges. They don't have anything to do with one another but because they are fruit I want to compare them. I think apples are better the oranges because they are apples...What do you think?

[lynroy]

Chug it, milk drinkers!

[leaguer of one]

That's actually why I prefer to use the phrase "apples and armadillos" instead.  Get weird looks, but it makes more sense...

The only way Armadillos will be good is if there makes makes them exactly like Apples. Until then they're only good for casual trash.