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I didn't find it dull. I found it to be ok.
 
Not every game needs The Awesome Button.


I meant that in an intellectual sense, actually, not awesomeness. OTOH, this means that I can rush right to the broken stuff without worrying that I'm going to ruin my gameplay experience. (Not my own idea. Anyone remember Syrsuro? One of the mods here back in NWN time. He sold me on the idea that since TES combat isn't fun in the first place, you might as well just beeline for the exploits.)

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I meant that in an intellectual sense, actually, not awesomeness. OTOH, this means that I can rush right to the broken stuff without worrying that I'm going to ruin my gameplay experience. (Not my own idea. Anyone remember Syrsuro? One of the mods here back in NWN time. He sold me on the idea that since TES combat isn't fun in the first place, you might as well just beeline for the exploits.)

 

Not quite sure what you mean, to be honest. It is boring because it can be exploited?



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As I pointed out in another thread, there was really only two quests (quest chains, really) hat I actually considered interesting - the one involving solving the murders and the Thieve's Guild chain. Mind you, I really liked Skyrim, but its beauty is ultimately somewhat hollow in my opinion. Even with the bugs and some other issues, I prefer DA:I on the whole - at least I actually care about the characters I spend time with, unlike the Skyrim characters where I didn't give a rat's behind about my housecarls (married one of them and used him as a pack mule - emotional attachment to him? Nada!).


I thought the College questline was decent too.OTOH, I was new to Skyrim then. Since my previous game was Morrowind, the bar was set fairly low

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I thought the College questline was decent too.OTOH, I was new to Skyrim then. Since my previous game was Morrowind, the bar was set fairly low

 

Oblivion, despite being rather poor, had some good guild questlines too. Especially The Dark Brotherhood.


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Not quite sure what you mean, to be honest. It is boring because it can be exploited?


The opposite. I mean that because it's boring, I don't mind using exploits to curbstomp everything.

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The opposite. I mean that because it's boring, I don't mind using exploits to curbstomp everything.

 

Ahh. I can understand that one. I do the same in DA:I, actually. The combat is pretty much the only thing I don't like in this game. And I have to do a lot of it at the moment, since I can't progress with the main story until a patch is out. Conversation bug is keeping me from playing the story any further.



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No clue what V:TM is.


Vampire:The Masquerade. Actually, that's the PnP game; the CRPG's full name is V:TM -- Bloodlines.
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Vampire:The Masquerade. Actually, that's the PnP game; the CRPG's full name is V:TM -- Bloodlines.

 

Ahh yes. I remember both. Bloodlines being way better, although very very buggy. A friend of mine has the rulebooks for the PnP game.



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DAI in my views and opinions.
DAI has a better story, better characters story.
DAI has a better graphic and less bugs.
DAI has a better NPC modeling and animation than Skyrim.
DAI isn't a open world but a giant zones and fill with fun quests. 
I stick to the world of Thedas more than the world of Skyrim.
I love DA series more than Skyrim.
I love Character creation in DAI more than Skyrim.
I don't need mods to make the graphic of Skyrim better than DAI.
I love cutscenes and love making decisions with talking with NPCs and companions.
I love to hear my character voices than the quiet characters in the whole game.
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Skyrim is good, but not the best for me. I love every single bioware's games even they not got a high score or no matter what. :rolleyes:  :rolleyes:  :lol:  :lol:  :wub:  :wub:  


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#135
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Dumb post aiming to spout flames. Good job.



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Skyrim for me. Dragon age has better writing, but Skyrim just basically let's you do whatever you want. DA tries to arbitrarily restrict you too much.

And people saying about bugs. I think DA:I is more buggy, it is just you don't notice them as much.

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Skyrim for me. Dragon age has better writing, but Skyrim just basically let's you do whatever you want. DA tries to arbitrarily restrict you too much.

And people saying about bugs. I think DA:I is more buggy, it is just you don't notice them as much.

the bugs I found in skyrim at launch(pc): Flying Npcs, Infinite dragon flying around stopping you from entering places, missing npcs, Voice bug, makarath angry guard bug (made them want to kill you no matter what you did.), and those are only the ones I remeber at the top of my head. I still love skyrim but there was ALOT of game breaking bugs when it launched. Dragon age inquisition (ps4): Voice bug so I have to skip dialouge when hawke and stroud talks and the party banter bug. Those are the only two bugs Ive had so far 



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the bugs I found in skyrim at launch(pc): Flying Npcs, Infinite dragon flying around stopping you from entering places, missing npcs, Voice bug, makarath angry guard bug (made them want to kill you no matter what you did.), and those are only the ones I remeber at the top of my head. I still love skyrim but there was ALOT of game breaking bugs when it launched. Dragon age inquisition (ps4): Voice bug so I have to skip dialouge when hawke and stroud talks and the party banter bug. Those are the only two bugs Ive had so far


I didn't notice many at first, but certainly the longer you play the more unstable the game becomes. I am lucky if skyhold loads at all now in my 50 hours game and when it does some really weird things happen. A lot of the bugs are things that you don't really notice must if the time and that is why they aren't getting that much attention.... For example, I had no idea there was even meant to be ambient/combat music until I read about it on this forum! Also, I have noticed a lot of combat weirdness with combos especially not working as intended. Sera's quest is also broken for me as well(though wasn't in my first playthrough.

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For me, one of the major strong points for Skyrim is its mods.  That is why the game has retained such a huge attraction, and will likely be one of the major negative points for DA:I.  It's a fantastic game - but will people still be playing it in a year, two, three?  Sure, the staunch fans, but mods enable the game to continue to be interesting and attractive, against current games.  So comparing the games, its certainly a plus Skyrim has.

 

Though really - I don't see the games as that similar.  Skyrim is wonderful as an "open world" kind of game.  And particularly in the way you place yourself as the Dragonborn.  Perhaps it is the 'silent protagonist' thing - DA:I is a very different kind of game.  I'm still playing Skyrim today - so it'll be interesting to see if DA:I lives up to its hype and I'll be doing the same a few years down the track.



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Vanilla DA:I beats vanilla Skyrim IMO

 

But Skyrim with mods? No comparison. Skyrim wins hands down.



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It seems that many of you have a lack of culture about Skyrim.

Skyrim is from a serie (Elder scroll) of open world games since years ago, it's goal to be the way it is.

The reason why people loves this serie it's because it always allowed to heavely mod those games.

So anything could happen in these games. The quests are totally secondary in this serie. That ain't the point.

 

In the contrary of DA serie while people expect it to be more story focused.

Also, DA:I doesn't provide any tools for the fans to shape up the world like for Skyrim.

 

So in the long term, we've Skyrim that can contiue to be expanded by the fans while in the contrary we've Da:I that doesn't support modders.



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Vanilla DA:I beats vanilla Skyrim IMO

 

But Skyrim with mods? No comparison. Skyrim wins hands down.

Agreed. Unmodded Skyrim is extremely troubled game. If you look under the hood that is:

 

1) Crafting. Utterly broken without modding.

2) Combat. Boring without modding.

3) Loot system. Pretty broken without modding.

4) Skill trees. Filled with passives, poor without modding.

5) Clumsy UI. Fixed by SkyUI mod.

6) Scripting engine was improved by fans and is required for many mods (SKSE).

 

Luckily you can install full system conversion like Perkus Maximus, few quest mods if you like and improve the graphics to the limit your computer can run it. That fixes almost everything. World is already big, especially if you have DLCs installed as well. I would recommend a good follower mod like INIGO to go with that, since only good companion from normal game is Serana.



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Aye, INIGO is by far one of the best NPCs I have ever encountered in gaming history, the creator should be recognised as such. His story, his personality, his voice-acting it's done so professionally that it puts professionals to shame! He never ceases to entertain.



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I didn't notice many at first, but certainly the longer you play the more unstable the game becomes. I am lucky if skyhold loads at all now in my 50 hours game and when it does some really weird things happen. A lot of the bugs are things that you don't really notice must if the time and that is why they aren't getting that much attention.... For example, I had no idea there was even meant to be ambient/combat music until I read about it on this forum! Also, I have noticed a lot of combat weirdness with combos especially not working as intended. Sera's quest is also broken for me as well(though wasn't in my first playthrough.

Weird Ive played my first playthrough for 82 hours and my second is at 30 hours and I haven't noticed any of what youre mentioning.



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Weird Ive played my first playthrough for 82 hours and my second is at 30 hours and I haven't noticed any of what youre mentioning.

You are lucky. Most of the bugs are small anyway, but they are definitely there. In terms of sheer number of bugs/glitches I think this is the buggiest game I have ever played.

Also, luckily I haven't had the voice changing bug yet in either playthrough!

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You are lucky. Most of the bugs are small anyway, but they are definitely there. In terms of sheer number of bugs/glitches I think this is the buggiest game I have ever played.

Also, luckily I haven't had the voice changing bug yet in either playthrough!

Yes or so it seems atleast. My point is I love both series equally for different reasons but skyrim had the most bugs Ive ever seen in a game up to that point. (thank god for console commands.)



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I have a soft spot for both games,but the only thing that might make Skyrim more compelling are the mods.Don't get me wrong,I enjoyed the game when it was released even if I had to form headcanons for some things in the story that didn't make sense,but I got slightly bored of vanilla Skyrim easily and this is where the mods came in and made it into an amazing gaming experience.
I think DAI so far has many things that the moders tried to include in Skyrim already.It's a far more immersive game with interesting characters (That sometimes make your own seem a bit bland in comparison.)
And even though I have yet to see every aspect of it,I find it very enjoyable.Still there are some things that irk me,like the lack of customisation but I guess it's nothing that can't be fixed.

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i played Arena (not much though, was tricky to get it to run 15 years after release), Daggerfall, Morrowind and  Oblivion. I did not even bother with Skyrim for a reason.

Daggerfall was a huge improvement over Arena. Morrowind was slightly more limited than Daggerfall, Oblivion was basically a Morrowind v2. But Skyrim? It's very far from what The Elder Scrolls could've been if they had expanded upon what Daggerfall once did. So many features and so much freedom scrapped, just for prettier pictures, since that's all that Skyrim is: pretty pictures.

 

The one thing that has kept Skyrim from falling into the abyss of forgotten games, is its modding capabilities. Without that, it's a 13-in-a-dozen game, like the many others you hardly even glance at in the bargain bin.

 

I do hope Bioware doesn't continue with Dragon Age to make it more console-ish, but for now, it works for me. DA:I is a bit like how Morrowind compared to Daggerfall. Some things got better, some things got worse. The thing I'd want to see re-implemented most from DA:O would probably be proper NPC AI settings and proper tactical view gameplay options.

 

The Elder Scrolls on the other hand: it's a lost cause. Its modding community would be better off making a game themselves, instead of trying to revive that carcass.



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skyrim was damn near unplayable on release numerous patches and mod's improved it immensely and its then that I realised the story is a POS, the actors are terrible the combat is meh.

 

i'm sure i'd be in the monitory of people that have decided they will never buy another TES game unless its in the bargain bin. no problem with people loving skyrium, but its just not for me.



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Aye, INIGO is by far one of the best NPCs I have ever encountered in gaming history, the creator should be recognised as such. His story, his personality, his voice-acting it's done so professionally that it puts professionals to shame! He never ceases to entertain.


Oh my goodness. I never heard of him before! I'll go download him and install. Anything to keep Skyrim somewhat interesting is good!
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