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[MadMaximoff]

Because just like KOTOR series and Revan, folk won't accept the HoF's time has passed.

Understandable that folk didn't like Hawke, DA II was a mediocre game and the HoF was still in their Prime (In time line continuity)

It has been 10 years since the HoF ended the Blight so they would be in their late 30's - Early 40's thus they are becoming close to Duncans age (the age of the Calling) and are becoming corrupted by the Taint.

However folks won't let them bow out just like the Revan fans wouldn't let Revans time simply pass and I fear the HoF will suffer a similar fate to Revan.

Become a boss in a future game that has minimal dialogue, gets slain and disregarded after 30 seconds of it sinking in.

So remember them fondly, head canon how their tale ends, but stop pushing the envelope. ..

Or Bioware may give the HoF a fate you won't like.

It happened to Revan and the Exile.

Don't think it can't happen to the HoF.

[coldflame]

Whenever someone typed HoF, I always think about Hottest Older Females.

[katerinafm]

There is no 'age of the calling' though? The calling depends on how long you've had the taint, and varies on a Blight going on, etc. It doesn't actually have to do with the age of the Warden as far as we know.

 

I think they've done a good job of giving you a nice window for deciding the Warden's future fate by the 'mission' to find them in DAI.

[Gamyu]

A fate similar to Revan...so our Warden will go crazy and try to kill everyone with a huge army and the Jedi and Sith...uhh, the world need to unite to defeat him/her?

Seriously though, if they didn't bring the Warden back, -cough- DA2 ending-cough-, and now this cure for the Calling, some people wouldn't want to see their Warden back so badly since most were satisfied with Awakening or Wurch Hunt ending.

[KaiserShep]

One would think that the fact that we could actually recreate our Hawkes in DA:I should have put fears like this to rest. I mean, what more assurance do you want that they're not going to create a singular default character and shove it in our faces?

[Vyndral]

There is not nearly enough Hasselhoff in this thread.

[MadMaximoff]

One would think that the fact that we could actually recreate our Hawkes in DA:I should have put fears like this to rest. I mean, what more assurance do you want that they're not going to create a singular default character and shove it in our faces?

Worried mainly as there are so many threads going on about the Hero of Ferelden and his/her absence that they echo KOTOR II.

For me I'd like to think the Heroes story ends how you would like it to with your chosen LI, however the constant clamour in threads for more of them gives cause for concern that they will bring them back just to kill them and force an end to their story.

Or worse, killed in a book that not everyone bought/read like Wynne and the Jedi Exile.

[Kajuana]

A fate similar to Revan...so our Warden will go crazy and try to kill everyone with a huge army and the Jedi and Sith...uhh, the world need to unite to defeat him/her?

Seriously though, if they didn't bring the Warden back, -cough- DA2 ending-cough-, and now this cure for the Calling, some people wouldn't want to see their Warden back so badly since most were satisfied with Awakening or Wurch Hunt ending.

 

No, he is referring to SWTOR, the online MMO.

 

Spoiler

Revan makes a brief reappearance and is killed off promptly.

 

It was one of those "whaatttttt??" moments.

[Vyndral]

No, he is referring to SWTOR, the online MMO.
 

Spoiler

Revan makes a reappearance and is killed of promptly.

 
It was one of those "whaatttttt??" moments.

Did they really do that? After pinning all the hype of the little expansion pack on the return of Revan, they did that? Oh Lordy that makes me giggle.

[De Vulus]

The Warden will come back.

 

The Warden should come back.

 

The Warden better come back.

 

I hope the Warden comes back.

[MadMaximoff]

No, he is referring to SWTOR, the online MMO.

Spoiler

Revan makes a reappearance and is killed of promptly.

It was one of those "whaatttttt??" moments.

Yup it took all our head canons for how Revans story ended, stomped on them, burned them and gave us a side helping of.

"LOLLOL REKT"

Yup the ultimate disrepect that is the MMO teen was the final fate of Revan.

[Bigdoser]

Yup it took all our head canons for how Revans story ended, stomped on them, burned them and gave us a side helping of.

"LOLLOL REKT"

Yup the ultimate disrepect that is the MMO teen was the final fate of Revan.

Who says he is dead?

[Laterali]

Warden's have 30 years from the Joining when they start hearing the calling. So the Hero of Fereldan should have another 20 years before he/she starts hearing the Calling.  I believe the story will eventually cycle back to the Hero, because it would make sense in how the story has been going so far.

[Jouni S]

You keep forgetting that DA:I doesn't happen in the same Thedas, where most of our Wardens lived. For a proof, go to the Keep and try to find an option for selecting the boon the King/Queen granted to the Warden. It's one of the most important choices the Warden makes in the game, but Bioware deliberately chose to ignore it, because it would have created major complications. For example, a Libertarian Mage Warden could potentially have started the Mage-Templar war before Anders had the chance by asking for independence for Ferelden's Circle of Magi.

[Bigdoser]

Warden's have 30 years from the Joining when they start hearing the calling. So the Hero of Fereldan should have another 20 years before he/she starts hearing the Calling.  I believe the story will eventually cycle back to the Hero, because it would make sense in how the story has been going so far.

Eh if you drank Avernus blood potion you got several more years lol considering how old Avernus is. I told him to keep going with his research. 

[Zoralink]

No, he is referring to SWTOR, the online MMO.

 

Spoiler

Revan makes a brief reappearance and is killed off promptly.

 

It was one of those "whaatttttt??" moments.

 

What? No he isn't. You beat him up, but he isn't dead.

 

In case the expansion being all about him wasn't obvious enough reason for him to be alive.

[Kajuana]

You were a lowbie too.

 

So in direct analogy, in Dragon Age Online, on one of the quests as a Grey Warden, you rescue the Warden Commander from a time freeze trap in some dungeon, a millenia after his disappearance. The Warden Commander happily reunites with his wife Morrigan, now 1030 years old, then declares he will help you in your cause to save the world.

 

Then, on one of the level 30 (when max level is 50) quests as a Hurlock Alpha on the Darkspawn side, you are sent in to murden the Warder Commander, Morrigan. The two love birds explode into a strong burst of light just before they die.

 

That's the last you will EVER hear about the Warden Commander.

[Jaron Oberyn]

Warden's have 30 years from the Joining when they start hearing the calling. So the Hero of Fereldan should have another 20 years before he/she starts hearing the Calling.  I believe the story will eventually cycle back to the Hero, because it would make sense in how the story has been going so far.

 

I sincerely doubt that. They gave enough closure with the warden in this game. They don't need to keep clinging to these characters, it becomes redundant. People really need to accept that. This is how DA was conceived, as a series of games with new protagonists with each title. The world being the constant. By the looks of it, Bioware doesn't plan on shifting from that even now. 

[DarkSpiral]

Did they really do that? After pinning all the hype of the little expansion pack on the return of Revan, they did that? Oh Lordy that makes me giggle.

No, that was the vanilla game.  He features in two of the original (pre XPacs) instanced missions (flashpoints), one for Imperials and one for the Republic.  In the Imperial one (which is chronologically later than the Republic one) he's the final boss.

The expansion pack enters earl access tomorrow, and in it he's "returned from the dead*" and is out to wipe the galaxy clean of both the Empire and the Republic, and start over with..well, with something that hasn't really been revealed yet.  Its pretty standard nutjob stuff, really.

 

And that is SO very offtopic for the thread.

As for the Hero of Ferelden, I think Bioware handled it fine so far.  Do put to much importance on other people's headcannon.  The people that wrote the scenarios in SWTOR didn't do it to shut fans up, because that series, unlike Dragon Age, had an established canonical series of events.  Bioware seems to want to keep the HoF offcamera, and that's mostly to keep people's interpretations of the charcter intact, because there isn't established canon.

So, apples and oranges.

[KaiserShep]

You keep forgetting that DA:I doesn't happen in the same Thedas, where most of our Wardens lived. For a proof, go to the Keep and try to find an option for selecting the boon the King/Queen granted to the Warden. It's one of the most important choices the Warden makes in the game, but Bioware deliberately chose to ignore it, because it would have created major complications. For example, a Libertarian Mage Warden could potentially have started the Mage-Templar war before Anders had the chance by asking for independence for Ferelden's Circle of Magi.

 

A lot of DA:O got a little ahead of itself, lending to the suspicion that the team wasn't sure if they were going to make more of these games. Heck the epilogue slides of Origins and Awakening sometimes cover results that are supposed to last years to a lifetime.

[Kajuana]

What? No he isn't. You beat him up, but he isn't dead.

 

In case the expansion being all about him wasn't obvious enough reason for him to be alive.

 

Fine.

 

Then in Dragon Age Online: Expansion - Return of the Warden Commander, somehow the warden didn't die and is turned evil against the Thedas realms and the Darkspawn. Now you must lead your faction to stop him from achieving godhood and destroy all realms.

 

Fan service = more subs = profit!

[Kajuana]

Back on topic, I agree the HoF was handled very well in DA:I.

I don't think it would make sense to bring him back, but it would be nice to learn in the DA4 that he found the cure and distributed it to the Grey Wardens.

[DarkSpiral]

You keep forgetting that DA:I doesn't happen in the same Thedas, where most of our Wardens lived. For a proof, go to the Keep and try to find an option for selecting the boon the King/Queen granted to the Warden. It's one of the most important choices the Warden makes in the game, but Bioware deliberately chose to ignore it, because it would have created major complications. For example, a Libertarian Mage Warden could potentially have started the Mage-Templar war before Anders had the chance by asking for independence for Ferelden's Circle of Magi.

Nonsense.  The reason that choice isn't in the Keep is because the ramifications are discussed in DA2 already, and therefore doesn't need to be carried forward.  If the Keep was able to import its world state into DA2, that would be a different case, but those threads were tied off already.  Whether one thinks the ramifications of that choice were satisfying is on the player (I was fine with the Chantry being to powerful for Alistair to simply tell them that their rules don't apply in his kingdom) not Bioware.

So, yeah.  As proof of the theory that DAI actually takes place in an alternate timeline version of Thedas, it falls a bit short.

[KaiserShep]

Is that like a real thing that people are believing in?