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I like Dragon Age II more than Origins!


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There was also very little conquensions in DA2. None of your actions bloody matter, but people tend to gloss over that sense they clearly what another DA2. I hate DA2, I hated Hawke. They weren't down to earth, they were lucky bastards that got away form the horrors of Kirkwall without dying in the process. I pefer the Warden, becuase although they'd don't speak, they're far more personal to me. This is also why I happen to like Skryim, too. They're unvoiced, and yet people don't make a big kaboom about the Dragonborn not having a voice besides shouting.

And in the Landsmeet? Remeber drunken Alistair? That's choice for you, I personally pefer DAO becuase I have a very special love for Alistair (which will never dimish. Ever.) And I love how my Queen Cousland went from this blunt, happy go lucky young woman living happily in Highever to a strong, ambious battle hardened woman that was in love with Alistair. Yea, I like having free choices. Btw, nobody awnsers me when I type "your choices in DA2 don't matter what so ever". I wonder why? If I'm wrong, tell me rightly so. But I know I'm right, and that certain people are under the impression that I'm bluntly honest about my oponion about DA2.

I am, becuase DA2 was like a REALLY long DLC, it was like the Awaking of the two other games. I agree with the other person who said this, thank you. And by the way, the Dalish were fine for me, they shot enemies, which is what they were programmed to do. They didn't block me, although I do know they died like dominos if the Darkspawn hit them once. The Werewolves? I don't know, sense I always allied with the Elves. I assume they're very proficient at there job. And so what? Less enemies, the better right?

And btw, I pefer DAO's way of collecting companions. They came to you (like Leliana), or tried to kill you (Zevran), or just some random guy you let of jail (like Sten), or someone who saved your life (like Morrigan), or were with you sense the beginning (like Alistair), overall, I think companions in Origins were more like orindary people trying to what's right, and at the end of the day, you know they'll be at your side as you make relations at camp. I love the warm, personal aura of camp. It mad DAO feel very special to me.

 

I'm not picky about the Dragonborn because I'm not that expectant with TES roleplaying to begin with. However, I did take it a little more seriously than their other games. I think I acted like a psycho for the most part in Morrowind and Oblivion. It's almost like how I view GTA. I at least finished all of Skyrim's main quests though.

 

On a positive note, I feel like it's mostly about me and the environment in their games.. the environment itself is almost a character. I don't need to hear my voice. I'm just there to skulk about, discover things, and steal people's kitchen utensils.

 

Some companions in DA2 had just as good intro as DAO. The premise is just different. You're not trying to save the world. You're just trying to fund an expedition. So it's going to be less dramatic and the relationships won't be based on some overarching mission.



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I know there have probably been a dozen threads like this. But I just want to pop out and say it again. I think DA2 is a better game than Origins and was actually an improvement on the series. 

 

Wha- no, never.

Sorry. Not sorry

 

Dragon Age Origins is my favorite..



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Wha- no, never.

Sorry. Not sorry

 

Dragon Age Origins is my favorite..

 

 

I agree with the OP. 100%



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I don't see how Origins gets all this love. To me, it was slow and plodding and it's my least favorite of the three.


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I don't see how Origins gets all this love. To me, it was slow and plodding and it's my least favorite of the three.

yeah that's for me the main reason why it's my least favourite as well. It's not that I don't like it otherwise I wouldn't still be playing it today  I love all 3 but for different reasons. Origin's is great if you want a great story with good tactical based combat. But it is slow and the graphics are a little iffy in places and that can be off putting. In general though I'd say that the positives for the most part outweigh the negatives but i find that to be the case for all 3 games



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yeah that's for me the main reason why it's my least favourite as well. It's not that I don't like it otherwise I wouldn't still be playing it today  I love all 3 but for different reasons. Origin's is great if you want a great story with good tactical based combat. But it is slow and the graphics are a little iffy in places and that can be off putting. In general though I'd say that the positives for the most part outweigh the negatives but i find that to be the case for all 3 games


DA2 - combat sucked, I was playing DA2 to discover Hawke walked/ran way to fast. Hawke must be a bloody fast runner then; really combat sucked.. So hard. It was very unrealistic fighting in super speed as Haske.

And DAO is your least favorite? I love DAO! It's probaly the best of Bioware's games besides for KOTOR. But sadly, the series suck rate is rising; I suppose. I think that once Bethsuda comes out with the next Elder Scrolls game; I'm jumping off board the train.
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I didn't like Origins plot it was bland and generic and the protagonist was a mute  blank state without emotions
My favourite protagonist of the series is the female default Hawke(Marian) and her friendship with Varric ,what a great personality she had.


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I didn't like Origins plot it was bland and generic and the protagonist was a blank state without emotions.
My favourite protagonist of the series is the female default Hawke(Marian),what a great personality she had.


Good for you, I suppose. I am, and probaly always will be a DAO fan. Maybe that's cause Alistair existed. Though, Besthuda will come out to a game I love though!

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DA2 - combat sucked, I was playing DA2 to discover Hawke walked/ran way to fast.

 

Ugh. You just seem to hate everything about 2. I'm glad Hawke ran and fought extremely fast. That's another reasons why i like it so much. Origin's combat moves like a turtle.



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I didn't like Origins plot it was bland and generic and the protagonist was a mute  blank state without emotions
My favourite protagonist of the series is the female default Hawke(Marian) and her friendship with Varric ,what a great personality she had.

 

yeah that too I prefer a voiced protagonist.

 

 

Ugh. You just seem to hate everything about 2. I'm glad Hawke ran and fought extremely fast. That's another reasons why i like it so much. Origin's combat moves like a turtle.

yeah I preferedthe faster pace that DA2 and DAI work at as well. I'm not hating on DAO but there are definitely things it could have done better but then that can be said about any game.But of the 3 DA's it's my least favouriet and in my opinion I think the series for the most part  has got better with each game.



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yeah I preferedthe faster pace that DA2 and DAI work at as well. I'm not hating on DAO but there are definitely things it could have done better but then that can be said about any game.But of the 3 DA's it's my least favouriet and in my opinion I think the series for the most part  has got better with each game.

 

I'm awaiting for the next Besthuda game  :(  Or more like the Elder Scrolls so that i can escape and go be happy with Besthuda; who i really like in general... :(



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The "personal story" was a great change of pace as far as ideas go, but it was done very poorly. The time skips were a huge mistake for the story they were trying to portray. Then Orsino and Meredith both going insane at the end really killed the sympathy the game had built for them. While you're right that the characters had fantastic interaction, they were individually boring. It's not good for side characters to have more personality with each other than with the protagonist.

 

Origins, on the other hand, was a classic adventure. Sure, there was nothing groundbreaking, but everything worked. Also it was an example of the right way to have the main antagonist, Loghain, not be the actual big evil in the story, which was the Archdemon. I think Bioware tried to repeat this with Cerberus in ME3, but it didn't work.


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Origins was a heroic fantasy: the hero going for save the world. DAII was not heroic: the hero going for save himself. I like it!


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da2 battle animation was at least better than origins for me. the rogues moves so fast and athletic as they should, plus melee animation when in close range when my mages and varric gets attacked. (not that i would purposely make them go into close range, but it's a nice touch)

it's one of the things they should have kept for dai



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I break it down by how much screen time my waifu gets

 

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DA:O 2/5 - Barely any content with best girl

 

DA: 2 5/5 - Has best girl

 

DA: I 1/5 - barely even mentions best girl


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Ugh. You just seem to hate everything about 2. I'm glad Hawke ran and fought extremely fast. That's another reasons why i like it so much. Origin's combat moves like a turtle.


I don't actually; your just under the assumption I do.

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DA: I 1/5 - barely even mentions best girl

 

It would have.. Arbor Wilds/Well of Sorrows was originally written for DA2's expansion. No doubt Merrill would have been cool there.

 

Blame the haters and EA for forcing a cancellation.

 

 

I don't romance her myself, but my sympathies. I was still invested in the story. Now at this point, even Gaspard knows more about Eluvians than Merrill. *shakes head*



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It would have.. Arbor Wilds/Well of Sorrows was originally written for DA2's expansion. No doubt Merrill would have been cool there.
 
Blame the haters and EA for forcing a cancellation.
 
 
I don't romance her myself, but my sympathies. I was still invested in the story. Now at this point, even Gaspard knows more about Eluvians than Merrill. *shakes head*


And I agree with you; I would've loved to see Merrill and Morrigan interact over eluvians. I like Merril rivalmanced (and yeah, I didn't do it, I did friendshipped Anders, Rivalamanced Fenris and Isabela.) OMG, I've done DA2 three times! That's more then my DAO and DAI playthroughs I've played. Hmm, I like the friendship/rivalry thing.

Meh, I have Revan to like so.... I'm set.

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And I agree with you; I would've loved to see Merrill and Morrigan interact over eluvians. I like Merril rivalmanced (and yeah, I didn't do it, I did friendshipped Anders, Rivalamanced Fenris and Isabela.) OMG, I've done DA2 three times! That's more then my DAO and DAI playthroughs I've played. Hmm, I like the friendship/rivalry thing.

Meh, I have Revan to like so.... I'm set.

 

Where did this talk with Revan come from? :D

 

I haven't played Kotor in awhile, but I was thinking about it..



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Where did this talk with Revan come from? :D
 
I haven't played Kotor in awhile, but I was thinking about it..


Revan is all human progie and so is Hawke. Besides I like Revan; I can use the Force! Dats awesome.
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Revan is all human progie and so is Hawke. Besides I like Revan; I can use the Force! Dats awesome.

 

OK.. cool enough. B)



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"I assume he [Fen'harel] got tired at helping..." (Memento of the Dalish - sarcastic reaction: essence of DAII, i think)

 

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Ugh. You just seem to hate everything about 2. I'm glad Hawke ran and fought extremely fast. That's another reasons why i like it so much. Origin's combat moves like a turtle.

 

Yeah but I thought DA2 took it a bit too far in the other direction. It was faster but it was also cartoony, particularly the mage regular attacks.. Origins combat was much more visceral. I particularly loved how shield strikes and spells like Stone Fist really felt like I was smashing an enemy and knocking them on their ass. So I wish it was the same style as Origins, just sped up a bit.


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Yeah but I thought DA2 took it a bit too far in the other direction. It was faster but it was also cartoony. Origins combat was much more visceral. I particularly loved how shield strikes and spells like Stone Fist really felt like I was smashing an enemy and knocking them on their ass.

 

I thought DA2 warriors (SnS) still retained that. But I know what you mean..


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Yeah but I thought DA2 took it a bit too far in the other direction. It was faster but it was also cartoony, particularly the mage regular attacks.. Origins combat was much more visceral. I particularly loved how shield strikes and spells like Stone Fist really felt like I was smashing an enemy and knocking them on their ass. So I wish it was the same style as Origins, just sped up a bit.

The mage and 2H stuff in DA2 seems way over the top for me.  The one aspect of DA2's combat I DO like is that it's set up so that playing a rogue actually feels like you're playing a different class as opposed to a dual wielding warrior who can also pick locks and disarm traps, although even there some of the moves feel cartoony and exaggerated.


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