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#76
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I'm enjoying my Lavellan more than my Trevelyan thus far. If this continues I'll elevate the Inquisitor higher in my retrospective on the game. I didn't dislike the Inquisitor to begin with, but I couldn't exactly rant and rave. There are... issues.

 

I connected with my Warden more than I anticipated given my general dislike of silent protagonists. I still don't care about Aedan Cousland a tenth as much as some care about their Wardens, however.

 

Probably have to go with Hawke almost by default. But the hero has never been nearly as important to me as the surrounding cast.



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My Cousland. He's also the strongest of the three even without super powers, by pure natural skill.

 

So it goes like this:

 

warden > hawke > inquisitor


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This is a difficult decision, made more so because I can't decide on a canon world-state. I've played Origins so many times, all back stories and both genders, I can only say that I love almost all my Wardens. I like some of my Hawkes better than others, and I haven't played nearly as many times as DAO. I don't think you really get more back story in DA2 than in DAI, you play the scenes where you're running away from darkspawn but I don't really consider that a back story. I will say this, I prefer the back story in DAI for this reason: for me it was curiously freeing to decide what my Inq. would be like. I took the basics Bioware gave us and developed my own identity for each Inquisitor. I even wrote them down when I was deciding what world-state to use with which one. Btw, it doesn't bother me that after the beginning there are fewer references to race. In my mind, actually sealing the breach over Haven puts you apart from everybody else on Thedas, whether the people believe you're the Herald of Andraste or not. You. Can. Stop. The. Rain. Of. Demons.

 

So, let's see . . . to actually answer the question . . .

Granaze Aeducan, Jezle Amell, Dagilen Amell, Kyriel Mahariel, and mage Jasmine Trevelyan (so far) --> Valkyr Adaar, Chianti Hawke --> other Wardens, some Hawkes --> Daikeer Lavellan, remaining Wardens and the bulk of the Hawkes.

 

P.S. So glad the dialog wheel was greatly improved over DA2.


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Hawke.

 

Because i'm tired of "You are the hero, save the galaxy" stuff.

 

Hawke was more human than these two "heros" combined. Reminds me of Shephard, a simple yet talented human being, that's all.

 

Hawke (At least my Hawke) simply cared about his/her family, all choices were about their own good. In serious stuff Hawke simply tried to resolve situations peacefully.

 

PS: I played DA:O at least 300 hours though, game was simply better. Just started DA:I myself so far Inquisitor is yet another "hero wannabe". Hopefully it will change.



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You see this badass ^ Your Warden ain't good enough for the dirt on his shoes lol

Hawke>Inquisitor>The Badass> The Warden

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Warden > Hawke > inquisitor

 

No contest there either.


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Warden > Hawke > Inquisitor

 

There were so many dialogue options for the Warden that it really felt like you could make them the person you wanted them to be. I've always liked silent protagonists so it never bothered me. Humorous Hawke for president. I really like my Inquisitor too, but I feel like their personality is kind of bland.



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In a fight? That's one that neither I or Varric would want to tell. It would be very ugly and all of Thedas would be destroyed because of how powerful all 3 heroes are. Apart from the Nugborn. Screw the Nugborn. Wait, that's the 4th Hero. Never mind.

 

My favourite Hero is THEDAS's number one badass that eats Darkspawn for breakfast, has a dash of demon as a snack, devours legions of bandits for dinner and for supper? Save the entire ****** world if he is pressed.   The Warden is a blank slate but it allows people to roleplay with them. To some, The warden is a bit of an ass with a heart of gold. To others, the Warden is a born commander that could give Sten a run for his soverigiens in terms of being stotic. To others, The warden is just a weapon in Dwarven/Elven/Human form. TO the darkspawn, he is their version of the Batman.  But to me? he is my favourite as DAO introduced me to the world of RPGs.  I loved how the Warden could be an utter ******* and people had no choice but to trust him simply because he was a warden. Even if he pisses off all of his party, he still gets the job done. He could be a criminal in a Warden's armour, he could be the Paragon of beards and good things. He could be the original Sera. And so forth.  He simply had no choice but to become Ferelden's savious after Alistair, the only Warden left did not want to lead. Then the Warden went from going "Well, ****." to "Well, ****." to "You know, this is kinda easy." to "OH GOD! STEN JUST PUNCHED OUT ALL OF THEIR BLOOD!" to "Shale, stop attacking the birds." and finally "Blight ended, guess i'll celebrate by drinking all of Ferelden's booze." Joking aside, I feel that he is Dragon Age's biggest hero and had the stronger will.

 

Hawke, he was good but suffered from DA2 being rushed and his entire story not being implemented well. He tried to stop bad things happenings. He did and then he failed because of plot reasons. Sure, the Warden failed to win the battle of Ostagar but he had just joined the Wardens. Hawke, kinda failed at stopping Anders from going "mwahahha, i am Vengance, i will cause a new war!". He failed to stop Isabella from sleeping with all of kirkwall. Just kidding. Whilst Hawke does get a lot of flack for failing to live up to the Warden and to be fair, any hero would have been overshadowed by the Hero of Ferelden due to their deeds, Hawke was a hero in his own right. He did what he felt was right and was just trying to get by.  He should have had a better story and i've heard the DLC for DA2 does a better job then DA2 does but his potential was wasted. However,no-one can outsnark Hawke. Not even Alistair. Not even a Snarky Warden that had a drink from the source of all snarky dialogue. Not even Varric. Shame snarky hawke or as some like to call him, Hawke the troll/maker's ass/Hawke, you're an ass., wasn't really snarky in DA:I and seems to have just had enough of the crap he's been through.

 

Now, the Inquisitor, I want to say he is better then Hawke but they are even so far. I do wish it was possible to have the personalities be improved but that's just something i would like to see return in DA4. I'm not a fan of "Ye' a chosen one, 'arry" stories as they have been done to death and Dragon Age should not be using this as it doesn't fit in with the world, imo. But he is very likeable and feels real. He is a bit of a hybrid of Hawke and the Warden but could easily go unnoticed if the events of DA:I did not happen.  But his story is not over yet so it yet remains to be seen what happens. Unless he joins the Hero of previous game went missing train. Which i blame the Nugs.



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I'm most attached to Hawke I think.
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There was a lot more dialogue flexibility in Origins, yes, but imo DA2 did a decent job in making Hawke have a defined background while still being able to mold her into your own character.

Hawke's auto-dialogue will use a certain tone (helpful, sarcastic, aggressive) if the player chooses enough of that selection on the dialogue wheel, and I also think that really helped me get attached to her as a character (I imagine it's not the best option for players who want to purely roleplay beyond that, however).

Albeit a character somewhat limited to do-gooder saint, sarcastic git who has an admirable talent for making jokes at inappropriate times, and overly aggressive hothead who is in danger of popping a blood vessel at any second.

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Hawke.

 

Because i'm tired of "You are the hero, save the galaxy" stuff.

 

Hawke was more human than these two "heros" combined. Reminds me of Shephard, a simple yet talented human being, that's all.

 

Hawke (At least my Hawke) simply cared about his/her family, all choices were about their own good. In serious stuff Hawke simply tried to resolve situations peacefully.

 

PS: I played DA:O at least 300 hours though, game was simply better. Just started DA:I myself so far Inquisitor is yet another "hero wannabe". Hopefully it will change.

 

That seems seriously off when you throw "Reminds me of Shepard" because he's the poster boy of "You are the Hero, Save the Galaxy." Even with the endings granted to us, he saves the Galaxy unless he says "Let it all burn" in which case he damns the entire galaxy to another harvest. Every single thing is balanced on the decisions of one hero choosing the fate of his entire galaxy. 

 

Hawke is far from simple, he may as well be carrying a sign that says "Damned now with Serendipity" because he has the best and worst luck at the same time. By the end of the game you could be running Kirkwall and be one of the richest people in all of Thedas, but also have your entire family be deceased. Also other than the three narrative device characters (Anders, Meredith and Orsino) you can pretty much Jedi Mind Trick people into doing your bidding and the ones you can't you can stick the pointy bit in and mix about their squishy parts. 

 

Hawke is afflicted with being the only hero to 'fail' and its because there is no way to resolve Kirkwall peacefully as they make Anders do what he does no matter how many times he's seen Hawke or the Warden resolve things peacefully. They used a perfectly good character as a vehicle just to guarantee they had at least one conflict under their belt to make a sequel. 

 

I still put Hawke above the Inquisitor because the Inquisitor is completely incapable of sarcasm and humor. 



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My Warden and Inquisitor are tied.  Which was a huge surprise for me because I thought nobody, and I mean nobody, would ever live up to my Warden.  I was so wrong!  No matter how many times I play through Origins (working on 6th) and Inquisition (working on 5th), I fall more in love with these two.

 

I wish I felt the same love for Hawke as others, but sadly she doesn't even make my list.  I love that she is the favorite of some, just not my cup of tea.



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Hawke comes last and I suspect Cousland first, which puts Inky in the middle. With Warden and Inky it depends to some extent on the character I'm playing, because with the former the Origins and their follow-up are inconsistent in quality and with the latter certain personalities match the story and dialogue better than others.



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I've enjoyed playing DAO and DAI but I can't honestly say I feel particularly "attached" to the Warden or the Inquisitor, I think maybe because every warden/quizzy I've played has just felt like one "what if?" persona that gets lost amongst many others. Sarcastic Hawke I might've loved because he's funny and distinctive, but then the story is so stupid and all over the place I never found a way to make any Hawke character make sense.

The ones I HAVE gotten attached to are Revan and Shepard. I've RPed a few different ones but there is one of each that really feel canon and rewarding to play.

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Quizzy and Warden are close. Hawke who?

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That seems seriously off when you throw "Reminds me of Shepard" because he's the poster boy of "You are the Hero, Save the Galaxy." Even with the endings granted to us, he saves the Galaxy unless he says "Let it all burn" in which case he damns the entire galaxy to another harvest. Every single thing is balanced on the decisions of one hero choosing the fate of his entire galaxy. 

 

Hawke is far from simple, he may as well be carrying a sign that says "Damned now with Serendipity" because he has the best and worst luck at the same time. By the end of the game you could be running Kirkwall and be one of the richest people in all of Thedas, but also have your entire family be deceased. Also other than the three narrative device characters (Anders, Meredith and Orsino) you can pretty much Jedi Mind Trick people into doing your bidding and the ones you can't you can stick the pointy bit in and mix about their squishy parts. 

 

Hawke is afflicted with being the only hero to 'fail' and its because there is no way to resolve Kirkwall peacefully as they make Anders do what he does no matter how many times he's seen Hawke or the Warden resolve things peacefully. They used a perfectly good character as a vehicle just to guarantee they had at least one conflict under their belt to make a sequel. 

 

I still put Hawke above the Inquisitor because the Inquisitor is completely incapable of sarcasm and humor. 

 

Shep was a talented human at the start. Grew on time but even in the end he was human. He didn't have a mark on his hand that can close rifts or he wasn't in a sacred special group trained(or read tainted) to be used against Archdemon.

 

Whatever he did or didn't wasn't because he was "chosen one", because he earned his place and his capabilities. Even being SPECTRE just means "special weapons and armor" and a walkaround of rules if it was needed not "more powah"

 

That's why i think Hawke is similar. Hawke again became powerful figure but he earned it by being a human only. Not because of his "royal blood", "taint", "special effecty hand". He wasn't chosen one, far from it.

 

Both Shep and Hawke been there done that. Both became very powerful and influential characters. Saved the universe/Kirkwall, killed bad guys, did some things right or wrong. But not because some spiritual power called God, Andraste or whatever chosen them to do so or not that they were shooting lasers from their eyes.(aka not super heroic stuff)

 

So i'm not saying they were common folks. They were talented humans at start and grew on it. But also they weren't "loved ones by god/prophecy" etc, they earned their place unlike some "lucky" ones.



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I see many here saying the Warden is either their absolute favorite or the most terrible PC to ever exist. What's that bad about the Warden to get such an extremely low ranking? I just want to understand.



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My Warden will always hold a special spot in my heart.



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I see many here saying the Warden is either their absolute favorite or the most terrible PC to ever exist. What's that bad about the Warden to get such an extremely low ranking? I just want to understand.

Could be a voiced vs. non-voiced preference.

 

For me, my favorite is definitely my Warden. I felt much more involved in the story and characters with my Warden. I think having the origin story gave my character extra depth and a greater change from being an ordinary person to becoming the Hero. The choices were more gut-wrenching.

 

I had more difficulty relating to my Hawke because she was human and rarely said the things I would actually say. I messed up my World State and imported a manHawke into DAI by mistake, and I actually like him better than my real Hawke because he's not me.

 

My Inquisitor is ok. I like the voice I chose, and that she's an elf, but I wish I had more backstory for her. Her rise to power feels much too easy. I keep wondering if the advisors are all laughing behind my back, because it's hard to believe they'd all so easily and immediately accept me as a figurehead.