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[K1LL SPLATTER]

The easiest way is this. Have a elementalist or keeper in your group. Stay in a close group by a good camping spot / choke point. Thats it, all i have to do is pop barrier constantly on the group and he cant one hit kill anybody.

On threatining we beat him several times in a row. I used my elementalist and just kept spamming barrier. I was standing in the door way with two melee characters while a ranged character was in the back. Everyone just kept focusing on damage and cc while i focused on barrier. Also with my firestorm i can do decent damage and cc. Its very rare that any of us would get incapacitated.

I have not done the math to figure out how much up time i have on barrier, but i know i can keep it up a lot. With the right passives there was rarely a time i couldn't keep my group protected.

I imagine that with two keepers or elementalist the group would be pretty much invincible.

[EVILFLUFFMONSTER]

I am not the best judge having never really strayed further than routine. This said, most people say specifically NOT to group together in one spot? This tactic only works if you have characters than can break out of the demon commanders stun surely? Otherwise you will be standing there unable to cast your barrier and protect your team mates. I think fade step can break a keeper out of the stun.

 

Forgive my criticism, I am quite uninformed.

[Angloassassin]

My 10/10 Strategy is to group up loosely, use Movement skills like Fadestep or Evasion right as you see the puff of green smoke before he leaps up. And pot-shot him right after his scream ability. 

 

We had 2 Legionnaires in our group, and those guys REKT the Commander, both of them level 6-9. I was on my 11 Alchemist, using Twin Fangs and *THROW EVERYTHING* to bait choke points, stealthing whenever I had aggro. And our Hunter laid down steady Deeps, only had 1 of the Legion go down, but stealth-pickup got him.

 

Grouping up together gets everyone killed with his super-damage ground eruption, then chain-lock panic-inducing scream. AW can counter-act this with Fade Cloak popped at the right time.

[Naitaka]

What the Op said is true because this is the easiest way to do it on Perilous. Just have two keeper or a keeper and a elementalist constantly spam barrier rotation. Honestly, people don't know how ridiculous overpowered barriers are on Perilous until they cheese everything with barrier.

[-PenguinFetish-]

Oh god not another demon commander thread. Have someone get aggro then have them avoid his attacks by using sprint and timing a jump, or just using an evade ability. The other 3 have a field day on mooks, then you all kill the commander, if he isnt dead already. Easy. No need to sit in a corner spamming barriers like a scared little baby and taking 10 minutes to complete wave 5.

[TheShadyEngineer]

Here's how I like to deal him:

 

1) Have a solid tank in your group (preferably a Legionnaire.)

2) Don't attack the commander until the tank taunts him.

3) Steer clear from the tank unless you want to get rekt when the DC does his ground pop attack or AoE panic strike.

4) Keep your distance from other team mates as well, just in case.

5) If possible kill the small things first, preferably wraiths.

6) If you're the tank, or for whatever reason the commander goes after you and not the tank, sprint away and jump when you see the black aura on you. Or if you're playing on a bad host, bunny hop away. Sounds goofy but works like a charm.

[Flytarget]

On threatening you honestly don't absolutely need barriers to tank him with a legionaire or templar. I tank him on a regular basis without any issues. He stays on me the entire time and when the group is finished with the ads, they burn down the commander. Best tip I can give you is to put your back against something and don't run around. Watch your stamina as well. Good gear definitely helps as well.

[K1LL SPLATTER]

I wasnt trying to upset anyone here. Just trying to help.

Yes group together. Spam barrier. We beat him 4 times in a row with this technique on threatining. His mind control was rarely an issue. Most of the time barrier is already up so we took minor to no damage anyway.

[CottonKhandi]

My friends and I typically kite him through the battle area and killing all adds, leaving Commander for last. We do not stay in any one place long and we don't group up so there's no 1HKO from boss or the other random demons that like popping out of the ground like a damn pop tart out of a toaster. Archers are able to one shot the ghosts easily so as long as you have ranged attackers, this strategy works extremely well.

 

Whatever strategy works for you is the one you should stick with.

[EvoSigma]

Oh god not another demon commander thread. Have someone get aggro then have them avoid his attacks by using sprint and timing a jump, or just using an evade ability. The other 3 have a field day on mooks, then you all kill the commander, if he isnt dead already. Easy. No need to sit in a corner spamming barriers like a scared little baby and taking 10 minutes to complete wave 5.

There is no need to respond like this. We need to remember that this is a goddamn game and people are free to do what they want. If this strategy works for him then that's fine and it shouldn't matter to you. I feel like this forum gets closer and closer to the BSN of past with more and more elitist comments and the absurd balance/nerf threads (when we're just past the second weekend of launch)... I also find it odd that you're trying to offer advice while also belittling the op? That's a great way to give "constructive" advice I guess. 

[Torkelight]

I think whatever Works for you Works. Every Group Constellation has to have their own way to approach this. I did him Three times in a row on threatening With my legionnaire last night. It was with a Group consisting of me, a templar, a keeper and an elementalist. I have to say that the keeper was probably the best keeper I have played With in my time, because I had barrier up constantly and during all runs including stage 5 I almost never dropped my full guard, which is quite insane.

Now if you dont have a good keeper, I think Your tactics need to differ. Best thing to do is to try to stay together but spread out enough so to not get double hit if you cant Dodge him reappearing from the ground. With that in mind you should concentrate on all the other minions/adds so that they wont be a nuisance. Though the Commander is a serious threat, it is a bigger threat if you get overrun by his minions.

And if you dont have the ability to tank him, please stay the hell away

[-PenguinFetish-]

There is no need to respond like this. We need to remember that this is a goddamn game and people are free to do what they want. If this strategy works for him then that's fine and it shouldn't matter to you. I feel like this forum gets closer and closer to the BSN of past with more and more elitist comments and the absurd balance/nerf threads (when we're just past the second weekend of launch)... I also find it odd that you're trying to offer advice while also belittling the op? That's a great way to give "constructive" advice I guess.

Dont be so sensitive. This is an awful way to play the game. Remember the box of shame in me3? This is the equivalent. Can't beat the demon commander? Better just cheese it with barrier spam rather than actually spend 5 minutes learning how to avoid him.

The only thing worse than doing this kind of thing in game is preaching how good of a 'tactic' it is to other players who are having trouble with him. These same people are the ones who are screaming for DC nerfs because when their barrier spam doesnt work, its the enemy that is OP, not the player who is bad.

Also, BSN of the past? BSN hasn't changed as a community. Not one bit, except for the layout.

[Sir Jessku]

Penguin is right. Anyone doing strategies that he has not explicitly laid out for us is doing it wrong. Deal with it guys. You can't play the game. L2P it's that simple. This game is less difficult than Lego Indiana Jones.

[Cirvante]

I wasnt trying to upset anyone here. Just trying to help.

Yes group together. Spam barrier. We beat him 4 times in a row with this technique on threatining. His mind control was rarely an issue. Most of the time barrier is already up so we took minor to no damage anyway.

 

But you still get thrown to the ground and stunned despite your barrier.

[MaxCrushmore]

You are correct OP. That is another tactic which works ... have everyone group together tight and have the Elementalist / Keeper spam barrier. Sure, you get knocked down and/or stunned, but the barrier will prevent any damage from occurring. Works perfectly fine.

 

*Note, it is important to have upgraded versions of the barrier for this.

 

The other options are also effective.

 

In the end, it just comes down to 'Git Gud'

[K1LL SPLATTER]

But you still get thrown to the ground and stunned despite your barrier.

You are correct. We still get knocked down. And his mind control still affects us. But as long as the barriers are timed properly, we rarely take damage.

I never said it was the best way to beat the boss, and one really nice person on this thread let me know just how lame i am for this tactic. It is just a very easy way to beat the boss. It was effortless for everyone. People in my party were promoting and playin with level 1 characters and we still had no problem beating him.

A lot of random pugs seem to have a hard time with this boss. I also rarely see many guys in random groups play the support role and use barriers.

I am not an elitist. I play this game on xbox one. It is pretty hard for me to find a solid group of players to work together with other solid tactics. So it just seemed right for me to play the support role, that way if i get stuck with sub par players we can still have a good chance to win.

To me its about winning, not being the best or getting the most kills. I wish i had a solid party i could constantly role with so i could try other roles with better success. But until then, its barriers for ftw.

[-PenguinFetish-]

You are correct. We still get knocked down. And his mind control still affects us. But as long as the barriers are timed properly, we rarely take damage.

I never said it was the best way to beat the boss, and one really nice person on this thread let me know just how lame i am for this tactic. It is just a very easy way to beat the boss. It was effortless for everyone. People in my party were promoting and playin with level 1 characters and we still had no problem beating him.

A lot of random pugs seem to have a hard time with this boss. I also rarely see many guys in random groups play the support role and use barriers.

I am not an elitist. I play this game on xbox one. It is pretty hard for me to find a solid group of players to work together with other solid tactics. So it just seemed right for me to play the support role, that way if i get stuck with sub par players we can still have a good chance to win.

To me its about winning, not being the best or getting the most kills. I wish i had a solid party i could constantly role with so i could try other roles with better success. But until then, its barriers for ftw.

 

But you don't need a solid party to practice with. You just need to learn his moves, in pugs is perfectly possible. Time your jumps and you're golden. No more barrier cheese for you. 

 

To all those who played ME3MP, how many people would sit and acknowledge the box of shame as a legitimate tactic?

[K1LL SPLATTER]

Penguin. You talked to me like a spoiled brat child. You seriously think i would take any advice from you after that.

I did not come on here for people to get angy at me and talk me down. Especially because this is a video game i play for fun. I appreciate hearing different tactics. The forums are where i come to get a lot of really good info. Sometimes i just have to ignore the trolls.

I really enjoyed my tactic and i just wanted to share it.

[MaxCrushmore]

But you don't need a solid party to practice with. You just need to learn his moves, in pugs is perfectly possible. Time your jumps and you're golden. No more barrier cheese for you. 

 

To all those who played ME3MP, how many people would sit and acknowledge the box of shame as a legitimate tactic?

 

The box of shame was never a legitimate tactic, because, in practise, it never worked. Anyone depending on it would fail anyways. BSN just loved the idea of bitching about it.

 

It only prevented synch kills from Banshees, Brutes, Crabs, Scions and Atlases. It didn't stop anything from attacking you, and now you're pinned in a little corner with no room to move. The 'box of shame' was always a BSN constructed lie.

 

Comparing it to barrier spam isn't feasible because barrier spam will actually work.

[Myala]

Add me K1ll splatter if you want. I only pug and know how hard it is too find a good group of people that either have mics or aren't completely childish. I like trying different tactics and have not tried this one. I haven't played with many keepers since the first week. There are a whole lot of eles and mechros now.

[Cirvante]

The box of enlightenment was much better than the box of shame anyway.

[K1LL SPLATTER]

Add me K1ll splatter if you want. I only pug and know how hard it is too find a good group of people that either have mics or aren't completely childish. I like trying different tactics and have not tried this one. I haven't played with many keepers since the first week. There are a whole lot of eles and mechros now.

I will add you tonight. Thanks

[EvoSigma]

Penguin. You talked to me like a spoiled brat child. You seriously think i would take any advice from you after that.

I did not come on here for people to get angy at me and talk me down. Especially because this is a video game i play for fun. I appreciate hearing different tactics. The forums are where i come to get a lot of really good info. Sometimes i just have to ignore the trolls.

I really enjoyed my tactic and i just wanted to share it.

Penguin has a good understanding of the game and its mechanics but he's not very good at giving that feedback to other people in a decent manner. When he gets over his own ego and refrains essentially calling people a scrub and to "git gud" people might actually take him seriously. Until then, I guess we'll have to deal with his flame bait and overly aggressive nature. He may not want to admit it but he is the essence of an "elitist" just by looking at his responses and his posts.  

[ShadowSociety]

Penguin has a good understanding of the game and its mechanics but he's not very good at giving that feedback to other people in a decent manner. When he gets over his own ego and refrains essentially calling people a scrub and to "git gud" people might actually take him seriously. Until then, I guess we'll have to deal with his flame bait and overly aggressive nature. He may not want to admit it but he is the essence of an "elitist" just by looking at his responses and his posts.  

I agree I have seen very many quality posts by him and just as many of these "git gud" posts. Can't we all just get along?

[K1LL SPLATTER]

Penguin has a good understanding of the game and its mechanics but he's not very good at giving that feedback to other people in a decent manner. When he gets over his own ego and refrains essentially calling people a scrub and to "git gud" people might actually take him seriously. Until then, I guess we'll have to deal with his flame bait and overly aggressive nature. He may not want to admit it but he is the essence of an "elitist" just by looking at his responses and his posts.

I understand a lot of the game mechanics. I understand how to avoid them and how to tell when they about to do their power attacks. I have played around 50-70 multiplayer matches.

I am not a great player. I am average at best. I enjoy the game and i enjoy talking about games. Unfortunately this thread started to get turned into a bit of an argument. I was just trying to give some advice on an easy tactic for a sometimes frustrating boss.