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#1
Ariakkas

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If you are still working for Bioware, please quit and bring back via kickstarter a genuine PC RPG.

 

I have in my HHD right now both Baldurs Gate games, Icewind Dale and Planescape. ANY and I mean any of these games is better than the whole Dragon Age universe (a one-to-three ratio). Even Neverwinter Nights is a far better, richer and deeper experience than Origins (both DA 2 and Inquisition hardly fit my standards of what an RPG actually is and I will not taint the names of the Masterpieces by placing them together in the same sentence).

 

You must be awfully ashamed of what has been done to the DA franchise. I understand. It is not your fault at all. You are not responsible of "the doctors" selling their souls to EA. You are not responsible for the cancer that are consoles.

 

Please consider my suggestion for the sake of individuals that still see video games as a form of culture. You are not alone.

 

PD. I will not purchase DA:I just because of the insult of porting the control scheme from consoles. The first title I skip from your studio in...what, 20 years? This represents perfectly what Bioware has become today.


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Your loss. You are missing out on a fantastic game. DAI is brilliant :-)
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What's with people living in the past? Gosh, you're annoying.


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thanotos omega

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What's with people living in the past? Gosh, you're annoying.

Yeah, I love lots of old things, but i can accept that they aren't as good without my nostalgia, so i don't go around acting like the newer ones are bad,



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Neverwinter Nights? Deep?

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA no.
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Nostalgia is a double edged sword.

 

Anyway, I personally think Inquisition is better than all of the Mass Effect games. I never liked Neverwinter Nights, but I'm partially fond of Obsidian's sequel, whereas the first one was eeeeeeeeegh. Inquisition, however is slowly becoming one of my favorite titles from BioWare (as it has most of the things I really wanted in Dragon Age game post-Origins) so I can't say I'd share the OP's sentiment. :)


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What's with people living in the past? Gosh, you're annoying.

 

Time passing doesn't mean good things become bad or that new things are better than old ones. I like a lot of the modern niceties of newer games myself but if you go back and play those old games, we're definitely missing something that those games had. 

 

To the OP, there are plenty of Kickstarter backed projects (and others) now that are bringing back the old school. There's Divinity Original Sin (described as a true modernized Baldur's Gate though I haven't played it yet), Wasteland 2 (think old school Fallout with some of the same writers), Pillars of Eternity (which promises no less to be a spiritual successor to Planescape Torment and has some of the same creative staff.) 

 

These are actually good times for fans of the old school. 

 

EDIT: BTW, Divinity Original Sin is still on sale 33% off for a few more hours on Steam if you haven't got it yet. Might behoove you to buy that and save yourself the grief that comes from bashing a game on its own fan forum. 


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Divinity Original Sin is quite simply put: Amazing with alot of strategic depth. Seriously people should explore the indie scene alot more, there are games still in alpha that has kept me entertained 200+ hours.

 

By the way I enjoy DOS, BG, IWD, but I also enjoy Dragon Age and Mass Effect. It's two genres now, treat it as such and learn how to appreciate the variety.


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It's 2014, deal with it.


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Theesit

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Neverwinter Nights? Deep?
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA no.


What? It not deep but it set a bar for rpg game even DAO (it original mate not just skyrim rip off like DAI)

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It's 2014, deal with it.


2014 was the date that all games became identical homogenized action games? I didn't get that memo.
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Jackal19851111

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What? It not deep but it set a bar for rpg game even DAO (it original mate not just skyrim rip off like DAI)

 

Not really in my opinion. It forces you to solo the game, played like an action RPG but utilised no player skill, had a horrible ending (akin to ME3 pre extended cut), and all in all I was saddened especially after the brilliance that was Baldurs Gate.



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I have in my HHD right now both Baldurs Gate games, Icewind Dale and Planescape. ANY and I mean any of these games is better than the whole Dragon Age universe (a one-to-three ratio). Even Neverwinter Nights is a far better, richer and deeper experience...


Ok, grandpa. We get it, things were better back in your day. You clearly are happy living in the past, and I don't begrudge you that. Let's be honest, modern games are scary: what with their voiced dialogue, 3D graphics, camera that isn't fixed at one angle, and characters that can do several different animations! It's all a lot to take in, I know.
 
The thing is though, while it's totally cool if you want to live in the past, it isn't really fair to be angry with Bioware because they won't stay there with you. You're quite right to point out that video games are a form of culture. But culture is continually changing. And this is a good thing! Culture that can't change and adapt becomes stagnant, and eventually dies. Bioware's willingness to grow and change is what keep their fanbase vibrant. Mass Effect and Dragon Age brought in a whole new generation of fans (including me!), and ensured that Bioware can keep making awesome games for a long time to come. But it wouldn't be fair for me to ask them to keep making the same kind of Mass Effect and Dragon Age games, even if I'll always have a soft spot for them.
 

If you are still working for Bioware, please quit and bring back via kickstarter a genuine PC RPG.
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... the cancer that are consoles.

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PD. I will not purchase DA:I just because of the insult of porting the control scheme from consoles.


Your unfortunate level of PC snobbery is a disservice to the gaming community as a whole and to those of us who love PC gaming in particular. No doubt the PC version has issues with its control system. But these will be fixed by community feedback and the efforts of developers, not by decrying the indignity of playing a game made for the unwashed console masses. In case you hadn't noticed, PC gaming doesn't exactly command the lion's share of the enthusiast gamer market the way it once did. Kind of like the first-born kid who got used to having all the best of everything to themselves, it's about time to grow up and realize it's not all about us. Sometimes we'll have to share with our console siblings.


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2014 was the date that all games became identical homogenized action games? I didn't get that memo.

 

Of course you didn't, that never happened.


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Not really in my opinion. It forces you to solo the game, played like an action RPG but utilised no player skill, had a horrible ending (akin to ME3 pre extended cut), and all in all I was saddened especially after the brilliance that was Baldurs Gate.


Hmm.i agree with you but i think neverwinter is the game that try to adapt D&D rule to modern game. It not good yeh but it did some thing right for me. Anyway i think we will not have DAO if there never be NEVERWINTER.

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Hmm.i agree with you but i think neverwinter is the game that try to adapt D&D rule to modern game. It not good yeh but it did some thing right for me. Anyway i think we will not have DAO if there never be NEVERWINTER.

 

Yes, that was the saving grace. Not to mention the dueling animations were excellent at its time, and shiny graphics! I could watch the fights all day.



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Might as well look to Pillars of Eternity or some other Indy developer.  Unrealistic and delusional to expect a classical BioWare RPG to return to the drawing board in a market where console sales are the golden egg basket.



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Your loss. You are missing out on a fantastic game. DAI is brilliant :-)

 

Not really. He is just intelligent.

 

What's with people living in the past? Gosh, you're annoying.

 

No, Inquisition is REALLY bad. I did not complain about any franchise I love not nearly as bad as I do with Inquisition. I accept everything new EVEN SACRED 3, you really can't accuse someone of hating new things if this person accepted Sacred 3, Sacred 3 is the worst thing you could think a RPG could become, ever, at least before Inquisition... most people think I'm the most tolerant person when it comes to damage done to frachises, ask any Mortal Kombat fan what they think of MK4 or even PS2 ones, they hated, I did not complain, now series is back on good tracks and MKX is obviously going to be the best ever...

 

So no, I'm not a person that duels in the past, Inquisition is just beyond any ability of tanking ****, I thought I was a godlike crusader tanking paper swords when it comes to ****** up my favorite franchises but Inquisition made me feel like a 12 year old girly girl tanking an Archdemon in Red Lyrium Massive Armor WITH LASERS. Even after seeing Sacred 3, which I thought made me immune to changes in my series, Inquisition still surpassed all my worst nightmares (perhaps because Sacred never really was something great, perhaps)


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If you are still working for Bioware, please quit and bring back via kickstarter a genuine PC RPG.

 

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Just in case you don't know ...

Black Isle: check

Kickstarter: check (2 years ago)

PC: check

Release: soon

http://eternity.obsidian.net/

 

And you should give Inquisition more time.

During my first  hours i was like "Wtf is this? Assasins Dragon Cry: Inquisition?"

But  the game really grow on me.

I still think, the quest design is worse than during the darkest mmo times, and the menus are fubar. But it's great, strange.


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Would absolutely love to see this.

 

Not to take anything away from the Dragon Age franchise, because I also love it..

 

But because I simply adored everything Black Isle Studios developed.  The absolute best in pc gaming thus far in my lifetime.  No other titles do I replay as much to simply bring me back to those universes.



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Neverwinter Nights? Deep?

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA no.

 

I guess you only played the official campaign?

 

Mods, especially persistent world mods, had a lot of depth (and a good number of persistent worlds still exist to this day). It's still one of the best, if not the best game BioWare ever made (as long as you ignore the base campaign, the expansions were vastly better).


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Neverwinter Nights? Deep?

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA no.

 

More like Neverwinter Nights, derp.

 

Black Isle had nothing to do with NWN...