I tried to pick the most polite ones, but they still tended to have a "you want to be a man" tone rather than a "you are a man" tone.
I may be remembering incorrectly, but I thought they all said something about passing. Which was what I felt badly about.
I may be remembering incorrectly, but I thought they all said something about passing. Which was what I felt badly about.
I'm reading the Bioware Blog Post and Krem was voiced by Jennifer Hale!? I'm beyond late to the party, but holy sh!t, that woman seriously has range. If possible, I love Krem even more.
I bet we could talk Tantopat into changing the first post into a collection post.
That's how all of the other character posts seem to work and, dang it, we're here to stay.
I was thinking about seeing if we could add in something on that first post about thread behavior anyway. Maybe c/p Allan's post (the one with the links) right there at the top. I'd love to make a banner or something we could put up there, too. Bejewel the place a little! (sparkle and shine!)
Oh, I never thought of doing that! Sorry, I'm still a bit new to these forums (I may have been here for several years, but most of that was checking out the forums around the time when ME3 came out and then forgetting about it) so if I forget to do something obvious, please let me know and I'll figure it out (and please don't be scared to say "you're rubbish at *insert thing here*, this is how you really do it!" 
) I'll check out the other posts to see what the art & fic sections tend to look like, then update the first post.
UPDATE: I'll have to do this tomorrow, I think. I was working on it, had gotten about three quarters of the way through a complete overhaul... then went to delete a bit of text, accidentally went back a page and lost all of my new edits. It's getting late here, so I think I'll wait until the morning to take the time to do this again. I hope that's okay with everyone, and sorry about that! (Now to go off and be in a huff with myself for messing up all of that work... *grumbles*)
There was a lot of focus on the idea of passing when it came to what you could ask.
Exactly. I just wanted to treat him like any other normal dude.
Like you don't just go up to a man and say "So, when did you know you were a man?" Just because Krem is trans doesn't mean I have any right to be asking something like that.
Exactly. I just wanted to treat him like any other normal dude.
Like you don't just go up to a man and say "So, when did you know you were a man?" Just because Krem is trans doesn't mean I have any right to be asking something like that.
But for people who don't know, asking these very questions is important to understanding.
But for people who don't know, asking these very questions is important to understanding.
Which is why I wish there was just one politically correct option (made clear on the wheel) so that I didn't feel like a jackass but still get those lovely speeches with Krem.
I'm reading the Bioware Blog Post and Krem was voiced by Jennifer Hale!? I'm beyond late to the party, but holy sh!t, that woman seriously has range. If possible, I love Krem even more.
Oh, I never thought of doing that! Sorry, I'm still a bit new to these forums (I may have been here for several years, but most of that was checking out the forums around the time when ME3 came out and then forgetting about it) so if I forget to do something obvious, please let me know and I'll figure it out (and please don't be scared to say "you're rubbish at *insert thing here*, this is how you really do it!"
UPDATE: I'll have to do this tomorrow, I think. I was working on it, had gotten about three quarters of the way through a complete overhaul... then went to delete a bit of text, accidentally went back a page and lost all of my new edits. It's getting late here, so I think I'll wait until the morning to take the time to do this again. I hope that's okay with everyone, and sorry about that! (Now to go off and be in a huff with myself for messing up all of that work... *grumbles*)
But for people who don't know, asking these very questions is important to understanding.
Ugh, losing a lot of work always sucks. Maybe work on it in an external document or something? My browser often saves data in post fields, I'm sorry that didn't happen with you. A question, if we find something we'd like to see included, do you want us to PM you once you've posted the first draft?
That sounds like a good idea, actually. The same goes for fan art, I suppose; I'll search through the thread for art tomorrow anyway, but if anyone has anything they'd particularly like featured, PM me and I'll include it in the update tomorrow.
Isn't Jennifer Hale wonderful? Krem's voice fits perfectly in with the setting and his history. Since he expresses no interest in a magical transition, I think the voice is amazing. I'm looking through her list of roles, and it's so impressive. Baldur's Gate, Mass Effect, Bioshock Infinite, Dragon Age...it just never ends.
This is true, and I'm very glad that they had the option to ask such questions. Being able to ask potentially insensitive questions and overtly insensitive ones helps with roleplay and realism. However, there are no real options to just say something like "hey man, that's cool, want a drink?", and I would love to be a bro with him on a character or four.
That sounds like a good idea, actually.
Good God Yes! Just when I thought I couldn't be more of a fan of FemShep herself, along comes Krem.
I would never turn down an opportunity to go drinking with bro' Krem and the gang!
I love Krem! And I'm so glad Jennifer Hale voiced him, she's got such charisma and really brought him to life. I think I fell in love with Krem as soon as I discovered it was Hale in the second conversation, and every scene since then I've just liked him even more.
I really hope there will be more Krem content in the coming DLCs. I'm just so in love with him! 
That reminds me: does anyone else spend ages just listening to anecdote after anecdote from Krem? I'd give almost anything for a series of shorts or something based on some of the Chargers stories he comes out with!
My ego and vanity insist my fanfic be included, it was posted further back, lol. Perhaps include a note somewhere in the OP about PMs? Thanks for updating it!
I love Hale as Rosalind Lutece in Infinite, I'm going to have to start looking for her in games, lol. She's very impressive. I should send her fan mail, haha.
If drinking with Krem and/or the Chargers was a repeatable action, I think I'd end up with a long line of alcoholic Inquisitors.
I kept drinking with Bull because I never wanted the scene to end, lol! I was sure I was going to have a drunk inquisitor weaving all over the place.
I love Krem! And I'm so glad Jennifer Hale voiced him, she's got such charisma and really brought him to life. I think I fell in love with Krem as soon as I discovered it was Hale in the second conversation, and every scene since then I've just liked him even more.
I really hope there will be more Krem content in the coming DLCs. I'm just so in love with him!
That reminds me: does anyone else spend ages just listening to anecdote after anecdote from Krem? I'd give almost anything for a series of shorts or something based on some of the Chargers stories he comes out with!
I haven't gotten a lot of anecdotes from Krem! Must...go...talk to him...
I kept drinking with Bull because I never wanted the scene to end, lol! I was sure I was going to have a drunk inquisitor weaving all over the place.
I didn't get the special drinking with Bull scene my first playthrough, because I didn't fight any dragons. My second, however, I'm sure that skinny little elf was wobbly her whole way back to her quarters. Maybe Solas saw and helped her up the steps
Sorry for the double posting, you guys always want to post when I'm writing something and I have to catch up!
When I saw the Iron Bull team in the tavern in Skyhold my first thought was : this would be an amazing team for a DLC or whatever new content. And Krem is a very interesting character but weirdly very hidden aswell.
So... would anyone hate me if I used something like this in the OP?
TurtleTape greatly approves.
I know it's 5 to 1 in the morning here, but I couldn't sleep, so I went ahead and edited the first post (it's technically morning now, so it counts!) If anything needs changing/adding, please let me know!
Oh, and Liedeke, that looks amazing!
Krem needs more fanart so I made a thing. (maybe his face and nose are little too square though)
Don't mind me, I'm just over here swooning. Can I just...play with his hair a little...yeah....
*sigh* I wish I could draw. *goes back to writing*
I know it's 5 to 1 in the morning here, but I couldn't sleep, so I went ahead and edited the first post (it's technically morning now!) If anything needs changing/adding, please let me know!
Oh, and Liedeke, that looks amazing!
The OP looks wonderful! Thanks so much for updating it! I hope you'll keep it up to date with new art and fics.
I know it's 5 to 1 in the morning here, but I couldn't sleep, so I went ahead and edited the first post (it's technically morning now, so it counts!) If anything needs changing/adding, please let me know!
Oh, and Liedeke, that looks amazing!
The OP looks nice and organized!
Thank you, glad you think so.
My only wish is that I hadn't been sorta-accidentally-spoiled about him before the game came out. I made a post on Reddit about possibly RPing a trans character, and someone mentioned they'd heard about an FTM character and I believe mentioned the name, so when I found Krem I was all obsessed, constantly going to him begging for more conversation *sigh*. I think the eventual reveal would have been even more powerful.
Yeah I was spoiled, too... stupid tumblr >.>
I stopped going to tumblr after that; it was kind of the last straw.
Yeah I was spoiled, too... stupid tumblr >.>
I stopped going to tumblr after that; it was kind of the last straw.
I don't think the person meant to spoil, and I'd made a conscious decision to avoid as much DAI news as possible, so it was just an unfortunate accident. Maybe it was a good thing; the last thing I needed was to start bawling in the middle of the game >.> Of course, I also kind of dismissed it as a weird rumor. I mean, really, what kind of big name title would actually include a trans guy character without it being some kind of joke? That just doesn't happen. Maybe briefly in an episode of a TV show, but the only trans guy I've ever seen in media personally was a guy stealing testosterone on SVU.
Man, am I glad Bioware proved me wrong.
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