530 réponses à ce sujet

[TurtleTape]

I thought I'd share this with the group. :3

Patrick Weekes: "I was his main writer, although I had a great deal of help. :)"

https://twitter.com/...291729857847296

That's awesome! I dunno how I can live up to Weekes' level of writing, but I have a short fic waiting to be uploaded once my waiting period for fanfiction.net is up. Since when does this place have a waiting period? lol, I suppose that shows how long it's been since I posted anything there. Though I suppose I could post it here under a spoiler tag.....

Ah eff it, first two paragraphs:

Spoiler

Krem looked in the mirror, only to be forcibly reminded that he wasn't Krem. He wasn't even really he. Although the high-necked dress he wore concealed his chest, breasts were obvious, accented by intricate stitching. His thin shoulders were laid bare; the pale, smooth skin inviting the touch of the merchant's son waiting at the night's dance. Brown hair hung in curls around his neck and shoulders. His hair didn't naturally curl, but the aggressive, insistent ministrations of his mother the evening before, and a night of sleeping in annoyingly large curlers had resulted in acceptable waves.

He was short, though he thanked the Maker every day he was not nearly as short as some of his other friends. Hips widened alarmingly below his waist, though admittedly the effect was accentuated by the ample skirt he had been forced into. He hated the image he looked at, and refused to admit it was him.

[Bathorite]

Add me to the list of Krem fans and those asking for a Bull's Chargers DLC

[Birdy]

That's awesome! I dunno how I can live up to Weekes' level of writing, but I have a short fic waiting to be uploaded once my waiting period for fanfiction.net is up. Since when does this place have a waiting period? lol, I suppose that shows how long it's been since I posted anything there. Though I suppose I could post it here under a spoiler tag.....

Ah eff it, first two paragraphs:

Spoiler

Krem looked in the mirror, only to be forcibly reminded that he wasn't Krem. He wasn't even really he. Although the high-necked dress he wore concealed his chest, breasts were obvious, accented by intricate stitching. His thin shoulders were laid bare; the pale, smooth skin inviting the touch of the merchant's son waiting at the night's dance. Brown hair hung in curls around his neck and shoulders. His hair didn't naturally curl, but the aggressive, insistent ministrations of his mother the evening before, and a night of sleeping in annoyingly large curlers had resulted in acceptable waves.

He was short, though he thanked the Maker every day he was not nearly as short as some of his other friends. Hips widened alarmingly below his waist, though admittedly the effect was accentuated by the ample skirt he had been forced into. He hated the image he looked at, and refused to admit it was him.

[PunchySporkk]

I am kind of mad at Krem.  I wanted to keep Bull in the Qun at least once, but I am pretty sure I can't ever kill Krem.  

[d4eaming]

 

Source: http://redmiel.tumbl...st/103480386185

 

This is way too awesome. I legit laughed when he said that. "And some Dalish, who bring ma-oooore bows." Said to my Dalish bow-wielding rogue.

[d4eaming]

I am also trans (likely never transitioning, though I desperately wanted to 5 years ago- too many other issues in my life, sadly, so I'm perceived as the "wrong" gender but have found a way to live with it, even though I don't think of myself that way). Between Krem and Dorian, Bioware has made me exceptionally happy. It hits so close to home with the "seeing the wrong person in the mirror" and "living a lie" and "screaming on the inside". I would totally romance Krem given the chance, even if it meant making an Inquisitor female (who I find so very hard to identify with- my default characters are always male; I tried and tried and tried to make a female Warden for Alistair, and a female Hawke just because, and I can't get anywhere with them). I'll probably make a dozen female Inquisitors that I'll never play with because, given the chance, I want to play something that more represents how I see myself. I don't even get what the issue is, except maybe it's such a strong desire to be true to myself that, while the character in the game isn't "me" it is some somewhat idealized version, I suppose.

 

The very first time I spoke to Krem, it didn't blip my radar, I just assumed he was very young. It was getting back to Haven and having an actual conversation with him that I realized there was something different about him. I went to the Dragon Age Wiki to have a look and confirmed what I was thinking.

 

Previous characters have only been ambiguously bi. I was disappointed that Anders didn't tell my female Hawke that he fancied men, too, even if it was strongly hinted in that recruitment mission. Zevran was open-minded and came across that he was taught to do anything to get to his mark, and to take advantage of "pleasure" when he could, but he didn't strike me as actually being attracted to men, it was just that he was willing to give it a go, if that makes sense. He did fall for my Warden though, so there's that.

 

I like how both Krem and Dorian are completely unapologetic about who they are and what they like, respectively. There's no hemming and no hawwing about it, no "well, I took what I could get;" they are who they are and they like what they like, and that's the end of the story. It's not their defining feature, but they don't pretend that it didn't have anything to do with who they became, either.

 

People whine about how Bioware is pushing an agenda or whatever. I say, they are willing to put their games on the line for what they as a company believe in- and they still came out on top. People accuse Bioware of "pandering" but if Bioware wants to help engender (haha!) social change then by god they have my deepest respect and devotion, because there's not enough people out there speaking out for people like me.

 

Krem is awesome. I want to go drinking with him and Dorian and have a long night of ecstatic revelry, wake up with a glorious hangover, and do it again the next night.

[ChachiBobinks]

Maker, do I love coming here after a long day and seeing what you all have to say.

 

I thought I'd share this with the group. :3

Patrick Weekes: "I was his main writer, although I had a great deal of help. :)"

https://twitter.com/...291729857847296

 

*air punch* I knew it! Patrick has this insane ability to write the most real stuff I've ever read. I'm now not only over the moon with joy that I'm a BioWare fan, but past a solar system or so to call myself a Weekes fan, too. 

 

Can you imagine how nerve wrecking that had to be? I bet he had... consultants or something. He took a giant leap and tackled something revolutionary. How even. 

 

That's awesome! I dunno how I can live up to Weekes' level of writing, but I have a short fic waiting to be uploaded once my waiting period for fanfiction.net is up. Since when does this place have a waiting period? lol, I suppose that shows how long it's been since I posted anything there. Though I suppose I could post it here under a spoiler tag.....

Ah eff it, first two paragraphs:

Spoiler

Krem looked in the mirror, only to be forcibly reminded that he wasn't Krem. He wasn't even really he. Although the high-necked dress he wore concealed his chest, breasts were obvious, accented by intricate stitching. His thin shoulders were laid bare; the pale, smooth skin inviting the touch of the merchant's son waiting at the night's dance. Brown hair hung in curls around his neck and shoulders. His hair didn't naturally curl, but the aggressive, insistent ministrations of his mother the evening before, and a night of sleeping in annoyingly large curlers had resulted in acceptable waves.

He was short, though he thanked the Maker every day he was not nearly as short as some of his other friends. Hips widened alarmingly below his waist, though admittedly the effect was accentuated by the ample skirt he had been forced into. He hated the image he looked at, and refused to admit it was him.

 

Good job!! Can't wait to see the rest. Have you tried AO3? I don't think they have waiting periods. 

 

Add me to the list of Krem fans and those asking for a Bull's Chargers DLC

 

SO ADDED AND SUCH. 

 

*snip for length*

 

Krem is awesome. I want to go drinking with him and Dorian and have a long night of ecstatic revelry, wake up with a glorious hangover, and do it again the next night.

 

Maker, you. Thank you for sharing. The feels train is leaving the station~

[Allan Schumacher]

d4eaming, thank you for sharing your thoughts on everything.  I find it very valuable for my own learnings and I hope it's helpful for yourself to be as open as well.

Krem didn't blip my radar at all.  Possibly because of just immense inexperience.  Was floored when it came to be!

 

I appreciate that BioWare takes chances like these, but never know if we're going to have a hit or a miss.  I'm glad that, at least for a decent number of people, it's something that works for them!

 

Cheers!

[YourFunnyUncle]

If Bioware's agenda is "try to treat all people equally and respect their identities" then I say keep pushing your agenda.

 

As a boring old straight cis white man, I found it wonderful to see a trans character in this game. I'm also really happy to see that trans folk are relating to him. 

[Xilizhra]

In my opinion, transmen are rather easier for people to accept than transwomen. Not that Krem is bad or anything, just that I wouldn't be surprised if the idea of adding a transwoman was nixed in development.

 

Krem's inclusion is a good thing, to be sure, though as a transwoman, I feel like there's a huge gap of emotional understanding between us, as we're inverses of each other.

[LobselVith8]

In my opinion, transmen are rather easier for people to accept than transwomen. Not that Krem is bad or anything, just that I wouldn't be surprised if the idea of adding a transwoman was nixed in development.

 

Krem's inclusion is a good thing, to be sure, though as a transwoman, I feel like there's a huge gap of emotional understanding between us, as we're inverses of each other.

 

I hope you're mistaken, Xil, and that such an idea isn't nixed. I know some have expressed an interest to see Mae make an appearance, and Gaider said it wasn't possible with the vanilla game simply due to there not being enough time to physically include her within the narrative; it's possible Mae might show up in DLC, or a brand new character altogether.

[Xilizhra]

I hope you're mistaken, Xil, and that such an idea isn't nixed. I know some have expressed an interest to see Mae make an appearance, and Gaider said it wasn't possible with the vanilla game simply due to there not being enough time to physically include her within the narrative; it's possible Mae might show up in DLC, or a brand new character altogether.

Maybe they're saving it for Maevaris. It's just that I got the impression that Inquisition was a very "safe" game, designed first and foremost with the object of being profitable enough to make up for the DA2 and ME3 issues.

[MissOuJ]

I really enjoyed Krem's character, although I wish I could've taken the investigate-options without sounding like an absolute misgendering a**hole (although I assume that's the whole point?). But I am so happy to see Bull and Krem tell my Inquisitor off and set her straight. Other than that, I really enjoyed talking to him. And yes, the Bull will always

Spoiler

become a Tal-Vashoth (and I'll never get access to the Masterwork Archon Staff schematics, boo), since there's no way I'm letting Krem and the Chargers die. No. Way.

 

But I think I found a bug related to him: all the flirting options are missing! That should probably be fixed asap.

[Baronesa]

I tend to agree with Xil.

 

Love Krem to bits, but the way trans men and trans women are treated is VERY different. Of course both face transphobia and cissexism, without a doubt, but on different degrees. In fact when you encounter anti trans rhetoric it is usually almost exclusively aimed against trans women, such is the case when you encounter TERF (Trans Exclusionary Radical Feminists).

 

So thinking it is safer to include a trans man over a trans woman, is a painful reminder that in general there is more acceptance for one over the other. With that out of the way though... Krem and the treatment he got was just pitch perfect, specially when you as the character select the really ignorant dialogue options and you get really great responses (yes i scum saved and explored all the conversations)

 

It would have been interesting to add a conversation option during the talk with the chargers or Krem to say "I know exactly what you are talking about" or "So am I"

[CrazyRah]

Krem really came out of the blue for me and for not being one of the main characters in the game left a much stronger impression than I would've expected. I'm totally interested in more Krem content

[d4eaming]

She is okay. I don't really care much for her or the other Chargers. You don't get to see much of them or really learn about them.

 

Can you people stop, for eff's sake?

 

d4eaming, thank you for sharing your thoughts on everything.  I find it very valuable for my own learnings and I hope it's helpful for yourself to be as open as well.

Krem didn't blip my radar at all.  Possibly because of just immense inexperience.  Was floored when it came to be!

 

I appreciate that BioWare takes chances like these, but never know if we're going to have a hit or a miss.  I'm glad that, at least for a decent number of people, it's something that works for them!

 

Cheers!

 

Thank you Allen His design was well enough that I think many people wouldn't even notice. I have seen some posts say he had a "girl voice" but really, young boys/men whose voices haven't deepened can sound very feminine (the whole point of castrati- hitting those higher pitches that grown men can't!). So it wasn't his voice, at first blush, that did it. That initial meeting was so short it just wasn't enough for me to notice. It was at the beach, then back at Haven and hearing him talk more that I caught it. Many trans men, before taking hormones (if they even choose to- many don't feel it's necessary) will pass as young men. I have dressed myself that way, minimizing my feminine features with a binder and wearing slightly baggy clothing, and no one notices a thing unless my voice gives it away, and with training that can be accounted for. Once I confirmed my suspicion, that's exactly what he appears to be to me. I can see the similarities in myself reflected in him.

 

He's a great character, and seeing as I've spoiled myself on a potential future for him, he'll be sticking around in my games, too!

[d4eaming]

I tend to agree with Xil.

 

Love Krem to bits, but the way trans men and trans women are treated is VERY different. Of course both face transphobia and cissexism, without a doubt, but on different degrees. In fact when you encounter anti trans rhetoric it is usually almost exclusively aimed against trans women, such is the case when you encounter TERF (Trans Exclusionary Radical Feminists).

 

So thinking it is safer to include a trans man over a trans woman, is a painful reminder that in general there is more acceptance for one over the other. With that out of the way though... Krem and the treatment he got was just pitch perfect, specially when you as the character select the really ignorant dialogue options and you get really great responses (yes i scum saved and explored all the conversations)

 

It would have been interesting to add a conversation option during the talk with the chargers or Krem to say "I know exactly what you are talking about" or "So am I"

 

This is sadly true, and when I was active in FTM forums, the prevailing thought was that FTMs were "gaining something" (because sexism) while MTFs were "losing something" (and that's bad, yanno? both sexism and misogyny rearing their heads). I think with time this can change (at least, I hope so- there's a lot of lgbt related things I never expected to see in my lifetime that are happening now, so fingers crossed, that picks up momentum). I think it also doesn't help that MTF stereotypes tend to be VERY offensive, and likely harder to avoid. Lastly, FTMs can also "disapear" once they have transitioned, making it much harder for the average person to peg them at all, versus the much more extensive work MTFs must undergo. (This is based on my research of years past, and knowing people on both sides, and getting to witness through a blog one woman finally get her hormones and surgery- she had a vastly larger goal to reach than the FTMs who documented their transitions, so I apologize if I am not fully on point here.)

 

It's going to take time, but if anyone can tackle it and do it well, I think Bioware is the best candidate for it.

 

I don't normally purchase game related things outside of the actual games, but Bioware has moved me so much with their games in general, and Inquisition specifically, despite its flaws, that I forked over a hundred bucks to get two shirts and a hoodie from them (the Tevinter Imperium and Ferelden heraldry tees, and the fancy Inquisitor hoodie) just so I could show them monetary support in additional to my verbal (and written) support. I know it's a drop in the bucket, but I like the idea of supporting the people who are, as I see it, trying very hard to support the lgbt community. They've made mistakes, but they've also taken huge strides in the right direction.

[daveliam]

Can you people stop, for eff's sake?

 

 

Just report and ignore, d4eaming.  It's not worth it.  They are just trying to derail and get a rise out of people.  And it will just keep happening.  Such is the BSN, unfortunately.

 

Also, I genuinely think that Mae is going to show up in future games.  Gaider really likes that character and the implication from his message about her was that the reason she wasn't included was because DA: I was too far into production at that point to add her in a meaningful way.  Not because he was nervous about including a transwoman.  In fact, he seemed pretty excited about the idea of her being included.  I suspect that she will be making an appearance in DA4.  Hell, with her story arc in the comics, I wouldn't be surprised to see her be a companion if we end up in Tevinter. 

[MissOuJ]

Also, I genuinely think that Mae is going to show up in future games.  Gaider really likes that character and the implication from his message about her was that the reason she wasn't included was because DA: I was too far into production at that point to add her in a meaningful way.  Not because he was nervous about including a transwoman.  In fact, he seemed pretty excited about the idea of her being included.  I suspect that she will be making an appearance in DA4.  Hell, with her story arc in the comics, I wouldn't be surprised to see her be a companion if we end up in Tevinter. 

 

She is mentioned in some of the war table missions, so I am still hoping she'll make a cameo in an expansion / DLC, but if not, I'm keeping my fingers crossed we're going to see her in the future games (particularly if the franchise is moving north from Ferelden). I wanna meet her, she sounds so awesome!

 

I just hope we don't have to wait for 3+ years for the sequel. Not that I mind high production values, but I just can't stand the wait! But I guess there's always DLC. (The developers just finished the crunch on DA:I and I'm already asking for DLC? They probably hate me.)

[d4eaming]

I haven't even finished the game (gods I am slow) and I want DLC.

Especially if it means more of my LI (Dorian).

 

GIMME GIMME BIOWARE!

[panda_express12]

Can you people stop, for eff's sake?

 

Explain? Is not caring about the chargers offensive to you? I am sorry if it did but I don't understand why it got my post deleted.

[Yinello]

Explain? Is not caring about the chargers offensive to you? I am sorry if it did but I don't understand why it got my post deleted.

 

Krem is a guy.

 

On topic:

 

Now if Krem were to be a LI in an expansion or the next DA game...

 

[d4eaming]

Explain? Is not caring about the chargers offensive to you? I am sorry if it did but I don't understand why it got my post deleted.

 

For erasing his gender identity. He is not a woman. You are not going to win this argument.

[d4eaming]

Krem is a guy.

 

On topic:

 

Now if Krem were to be a LI in an expansion or the next DA game...

 

 

All I can think is "holy cow that bird's feet must be FROZEN."

 

Our heat isn't working. It's 15 degrees outside. My hands feel like blocks of ice. I can't imagine walking barefoot on the 1 inch thick ice out there!

[Yinello]

All I can think is "holy cow that bird's feet must be FROZEN."

 

Our heat isn't working. It's 15 degrees outside. My hands feel like blocks of ice. I can't imagine walking barefoot on the 1 inch thick ice out there!

 

xD I think the bird is well equipped for the cold.

 

Aww man that sucks. I've moved my bed to the living room so I can sleep somewhere warmer. xP