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#176
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xD I think the bird is well equipped for the cold.

 

Aww man that sucks. I've moved my bed to the living room so I can sleep somewhere warmer. xP

 

I have two electric blankets and two cats. (And a space heater on order.) But I play with keyboard (rather, a Belkin n52te, older model of the Nostromo Speedpad) and mouse. It doesn't work very well under the blankets :crying:



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Forgedt if I mentioned this, but Krem is so awesomely written that I didn't even have a clue he was a guy until that scene with Bull. 

 

It was an incredibly powerful moment that made me smile like a total goof. 



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I've done one mission that Krem suggested so far in the game. I'd like to get more use for him and bull than I have  so far (yeah I know it's odd to get stressed about not using some companions as much but I do). Does Krem get more time than the investigate the Templars mission? If he does is there somewhere/area/region/mission where I can specifically use Bull and Krem? I am about 40 hours in and just finished the "Into the Abyss" mission.



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She is mentioned in some of the war table missions, so I am still hoping she'll make a cameo in an expansion / DLC, but if not, I'm keeping my fingers crossed we're going to see her in the future games (particularly if the franchise is moving north from Ferelden). I wanna meet her, she sounds so awesome!

 

I just hope we don't have to wait for 3+ years for the sequel. Not that I mind high production values, but I just can't stand the wait! But I guess there's always DLC. (The developers just finished the crunch on DA:I and I'm already asking for DLC? They probably hate me.)

 

I know.  I'm thirsty for more content already and the game's only been out for two weeks!  The way I'm satisfying myself is this:  We'll definitely get at least one, if not two sizeable DLCs.  Those will probably start showing up in another two or three months.  Then, it will be spring/summer and we'll start getting hyped about ME4.  By the time that game comes out, we'll be getting hyped about DA4.  As much as I thought that extra year (and then extra month) of development time would kill me, I'm really glad that they took the time and made the game that they wanted to make.  DA 2 was a mess and I think it's because of the short development time.  Even with all of the extended time, DA: I is a buggy mess.  But, once they get the patches out, the game will be well worth the wait!

 


 

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I've done one mission that Krem suggested so far in the game. I'd like to get more use for him and bull than I have  so far (yeah I know it's odd to get stressed about not using some companions as much but I do). Does Krem get more time than the investigate the Templars mission? If he does is there somewhere/area/region/mission where I can specifically use Bull and Krem? I am about 40 hours in and just finished the "Into the Abyss" mission.

 

Go chat with him now that you're finished the Abyss. :) 


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Go chat with him now that you're finished the Abyss. :)

 

Thanks!


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In my opinion, transmen are rather easier for people to accept than transwomen. Not that Krem is bad or anything, just that I wouldn't be surprised if the idea of adding a transwoman was nixed in development.
 
Krem's inclusion is a good thing, to be sure, though as a transwoman, I feel like there's a huge gap of emotional understanding between us, as we're inverses of each other.


I'm rather glad it was a trans man. Trans women are more often in media, both negatively and positively, and trans men are typically kind of forgotten about and glossed over. Some people don't even consciously realize that you can be a trans man, because there are so many trans women in media. I know personally I can see ten articles about transgender people, and none of them will even mention men, they're all very trans woman-centric(especially since Laverne Cox jumped into the limelight <3), so it's nice to get this kind of visibility; it kind of counteracts the erased feeling and reminds people we exist.
 
 

It would have been interesting to add a conversation option during the talk with the chargers or Krem to say "I know exactly what you are talking about" or "So am I"


I think it would have been wonderful to be able to say something like this, but I can only imagine the frenzy that would have happened had there been any dialogue that even vaguely maybe potentially suggested that the PC could be *gasp* transgender.



Also I put up the fic: https://www.fanficti.../1/I-Am-My-Hair Sadly, Krem is not in the list of characters.
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Explain? Is not caring about the chargers offensive to you? I am sorry if it did but I don't understand why it got my post deleted.

 

You could clarify confusion by referring to the post Allan made that actually addresses this same thing. If you're having trouble finding it, you can click on the red "Show only BioWare posts" button at the top of the page. There's no need to rehash anything. Thanks!

 

I'm rather glad it was a trans man. Trans women are more often in media, both negatively and positively, and trans men are typically kind of forgotten about and glossed over. Some people don't even consciously realize that you can be a trans man, because there are so many trans women in media. I know personally I can see ten articles about transgender people, and none of them will even mention men, they're all very trans woman-centric(especially since Laverne Cox jumped into the limelight <3), so it's nice to get this kind of visibility; it kind of counteracts the erased feeling and reminds people we exist.
 
 

I think it would have been wonderful to be able to say something like this, but I can only imagine the frenzy that would have happened had there been any dialogue that even vaguely maybe potentially suggested that the PC could be *gasp* transgender.



Also I put up the fic: https://www.fanficti.../1/I-Am-My-Hair Sadly, Krem is not in the list of characters.

 

You know, I happen to agree. I think popular media tends to alienate all trans people, but trans males are left out the most. I think the fact that Krem is a man has far more impact than the other way around. Personally (and mind you - I'm not trans, so my opinion is just that) I feel that Krem is now the second accurate trans portrayal that BioWare has made. Mae counts. Good lord, does she count. Had they decided to have a trans woman in this game, the complaint would probably be "Well, why can't they do a trans man!" It would be interesting to find out how Patrick made that decision (just because I'm a curious little info anteater), but I have to wrinkle my nose at the idea that a trans man shouldn't have been done.

 

Krem is perfection. 


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BioWare @bioware  ·  1m 1 minute ago

In today's blog post, @PatrickWeekes talks about writing Cremisius Aclassi, Iron Bull's 2nd in command http://blog.bioware.com/?p=7812 #DAI


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I know.  I'm thirsty for more content already and the game's only been out for two weeks!  The way I'm satisfying myself is this:  We'll definitely get at least one, if not two sizeable DLCs.  Those will probably start showing up in another two or three months.  Then, it will be spring/summer and we'll start getting hyped about ME4.  By the time that game comes out, we'll be getting hyped about DA4.  As much as I thought that extra year (and then extra month) of development time would kill me, I'm really glad that they took the time and made the game that they wanted to make.  DA 2 was a mess and I think it's because of the short development time.  Even with all of the extended time, DA: I is a buggy mess.  But, once they get the patches out, the game will be well worth the wait!

 

 

I'm actually hoping for a whole expanion (or two, pretty please?). But anyway: loads of DLC's, a whole expansion... yes yes yes, gimme now! I've long ago come to the conclusion that I should just give BioWare direct access to my account and go "As long as you keep producing new content... help yourselves! I also have a kidney I can spare."

 

Agreed about the time table / development time. Also, if ME and DA ever released too close together... I don't know what I would do. Probably completely dissappear from the face of the Earth for a month... or two.

 

EDIT: Although I have to say I haven't experienced too many serious bugs, most bugs I've witnessed in my game have been more of the "LOL!"-variety.


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Do we know anything about Tevinter naming norms? Do you think "Cremisius" is a name he would have had to choose?

 

Well if Tevinter is based on Latin, the "us" ending is masculine, so if I had to hazard a guess I'd say he picked that name.

 

EDIT: His birth name could've been "Cremisia"; yeah, Latin is that silly :lol: 


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I think it would have been wonderful to be able to say something like this, but I can only imagine the frenzy that would have happened had there been any dialogue that even vaguely maybe potentially suggested that the PC could be *gasp* transgender.

 

I would have burst into ugly tears if I realized we could play as a trans character.


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BioWare @bioware  ·  1m 1 minute ago

In today's blog post, @PatrickWeekes talks about writing Cremisius Aclassi, Iron Bull's 2nd in command http://blog.bioware.com/?p=7812 #DAI

 

This was such a nice article! :) Patrick seems like a real sweetiepie. 


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#189
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You know, I happen to agree. I think popular media tends to alienate all trans people, but trans males are left out the most. I think the fact that Krem is a man has far more impact than the other way around. Personally (and mind you - I'm not trans, so my opinion is just that) I feel that Krem is now the second accurate trans portrayal that BioWare has made. Mae counts. Good lord, does she count. Had they decided to have a trans woman in this game, the complaint would probably be "Well, why can't they do a trans man!" It would be interesting to find out how Patrick made that decision (just because I'm a curious little info anteater), but I have to wrinkle my nose at the idea that a trans man shouldn't have been done.
 
Krem is perfection.


While of course I would have been glad to see a trans woman character, I'll admit that my second thought after "ooo a trans character, that's so cool!" would have been "*sigh* of course it's a girl".
 
 

BioWare @bioware  ·  1m 1 minute ago
In today's blog post, @PatrickWeekes talks about writing Cremisius Aclassi, Iron Bull's 2nd in command http://blog.bioware.com/?p=7812 #DAI

 
A good read, I'm glad he got people in the community to look things over. However, it's a little odd he keeps saying "genderqueer community" when Krem seems to be a binary trans character, and genderqueer falls under the transgender umbrella, not the other way around.

Also, lol, the picture is Krem standing on the chair.
 

I would have burst into ugly tears if I realized we could play as a trans character.


Oh yeah. Definitely. I actually made my female elf have masculine features and boyish hair. In my head she's at least a little GQ, lol.

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BioWare @bioware  ·  1m 1 minute ago

In today's blog post, @PatrickWeekes talks about writing Cremisius Aclassi, Iron Bull's 2nd in command http://blog.bioware.com/?p=7812 #DAI

 

And this article is the reason why Bioware is just top notch to me.  They listen to fan feedback and respond appropriately, but with restraint.  To hear about the level of respect and deliberate time spent on making this character turn out how he did is just fantastic.

 

I enjoy the level of humility and transparency that the devs have around their understanding of other points of view.  Patrick's work is greatly appreciated.  And it sounds like we owe John Epler again.  First, he allowed Bull to romance dwarves.  Then, he created Krem's believable body animations.  And to top it off, it means that we owe him for the Krem-on-the-chair experience. 


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I really enjoyed Krem's character, although I wish I could've taken the investigate-options without sounding like an absolute misgendering a**hole (although I assume that's the whole point?). But I am so happy to see Bull and Krem tell my Inquisitor off and set her straight. Other than that, I really enjoyed talking to him. And yes, the Bull will always

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But I think I found a bug related to him: all the flirting options are missing! That should probably be fixed asap.


I disliked the 'passing' line, too, when speaking with Krem about his life in Tevinter. I wish the lines were written differently, similar to how the Inquisitor can decide on what to say to Krem during the group meeting with all the Chargers.

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I was really nervous about speaking to Krem about his being trans at first because of the dialogue options.

 

I was super scared of offending him, but he was a sweetheart about all my questions. 



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I disliked the 'passing' line, too, when speaking with Krem about his life in Tevinter. I wish the lines were written differently, similar to how the Inquisitor can decide on what to say to Krem during the group meeting with all the Chargers.

 

Yeah, I saw that and I was like "... Really? I want to know more about him, but I don't want to be this hurtful and clueless."

 

There's also a dialogue option with Bull where you can ask about Krem's "real" identity and how Bull feels about it (the wording is... all around pretty horrendous, IIRC) which made me so uncomfortable that I almost didn't pick it, but I decided to just bear it. The dialogue option was... pretty much just as bad as I had expected, but at least Bull puts you in your place very quickly, which at least is a plus.


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Yeah, I saw that and I was like "... Really? I want to know more about him, but I don't want to be this hurtful and clueless."

 

There's also a dialogue option with Bull where you can ask about Krem's "real" identity and how Bull feels about it (the wording is... all around pretty horrendous, IIRC) which made me so uncomfortable that I almost didn't pick it, but I decided to just bear it. The dialogue option was... pretty much just as bad as I had expected, but at least Bull puts you in your place very quickly, which at least is a plus.

 

I adored Bull's response, it was definitely a heart-warming moment for me. 


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I adored Bull's response, it was definitely a heart-warming moment for me.


The Iron Bull is just all around awesome when it comes to Krem. He's so protective and supportive.

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The Iron Bull is just all around awesome when it comes to Krem. He's so protective and supportive.

 

Bull is all around awesome in every way. He's like Mary Poppins, haha. I can't wait for my next playthrough to romance him; Krem can be our best man! :P 


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I adored Bull's response, it was definitely a heart-warming moment for me. 

 

Yeah, that was the moment I realised not only how close he is with his Chargers, but also how much he loves and respects them. They're not just his mercenary company - they're truly "his boys". Made me care about his character a lot more as well. I had been kinda ignoring him because he wasn't a character that made me go "Damn, I gotta hear what he has to say about X!". After those discussions I went over to see him a lot more often.

 

Another reason

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Because of y'all I have Smooth Criminal on repeat.

 

 

"Annie, are you okay?"

 

"Are you ok, Annie?"


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Bull is all around awesome in every way. He's like Mary Poppins, haha. I can't wait for my next playthrough to romance him; Krem can be our best man! :P


I want a little plushie Iron Bull that says motivational phrases and dirty jokes when you squeeze it. And a Krem figure. Definitely a Krem figure.


I wish the OP was updated to list links to art and fic, I need to go through and save stuff, lol.
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BioWare @bioware  ·  1m 1 minute ago

In today's blog post, @PatrickWeekes talks about writing Cremisius Aclassi, Iron Bull's 2nd in command http://blog.bioware.com/?p=7812 #DAI

Good read, thanks for the link!