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[Battlebloodmage]

Every popular video games out there have been cracked. Dragon Age is no exception. They could pull a Richard move and make everything required online connection like Blizzard.

[Teddie Sage]

In other news, water is wet."

So is my screen, because I just spat water at my screen. Dammit.

[Fidite Nemini]

Would you purchase an expensive vehicle without going out for a test drive? Same thing goes for video games. I remember back in the old days where gaming companies actually provides demos for people to download, and try out prior to purchasing the full version. Whatever happen to that concept?

 

Would you break into a car dealer shop and take a car for a joyride to test it if they didn't offer a test ride?

 

 

No demo is bad, yes. Still doesn't make pirating right. Nevermind that devs can just as easily create demos that aren't truly representative of the game, making them hardly a reliable reference point to start with.

[Kantr]

Yeah, do something. Like patching out control software that's no longer effective so it's not just the legit customers who deal with it whilst pirating scum gets to play the game without any of that fuzz.

 

 

 

Crackers gonna crack. Nothing new, never been different and I can't think of a single DRM that wasn't eventually cracked, some of which were/are incredibly draconic to no one but the honest customers. Not saying Denuvo is like those, but by all accounts, as soon as working cracked copies of the game hit the torrent sites, developers/publishers should have it as standard to promptly remove any obstructive software since it no longer works anyway.

It's more of a case of being DRM for the DRM

[AlanC9]

And that's good? **** no... 

I don't see much of a difference if the game isn't really moddable anyway. Hard luck for folks without decent broadband, of course.

[DanielCofour]

I don't see much of a difference if the game isn't really moddable anyway. Hard luck for folks without decent broadband, of course.

 

Have you heard of Error 37 or the Sim City launch or the AC2 launch? Those were all examples of why this thing is never going to fly. Also have you heard of Comcast? Bad broadband is their trademark. And what if someone else is trying to use the internet while you are constantly downloading Gigabytes worth of data?

 

It's a world of difference. It relies on both the broadband provider, the company servers and your wifi network. None of which are required in a single player game. It will fail for someone at some point and probably a lot more people as well. Bad idea every time it's tried. 

 

Oh and  by the AC2 and Simcity both got cracked. The only one which hasn't was Diablo 3(for PC, the PS3 and Xbox versions are). But the price paying customers paid(not monetary) wasn't worth it. 

 

How are people so gullible they eat up this **** ? Seriously. In the age where CDP Red have no DRM whatsoever on their games and they still sell great, some dumb customers actually want intrusive DRM imposed on them. For what? A pointless battle against piracy? It boggles the mind... I don't know if this applies to you(even though you "don't see much difference"), but let the people who have no money pirate and enjoy the game and the fact that you supported the company and you'll get a new game because of your payment. And also.. .enjoy the benefits which come with an original copy of the game, like no viruses, multiplayer, online features, a clean and easy install, support and so on. 

 

And stop complaining about piracy. It's not the boogeyman some people think it is. 

[DanielCofour]

No, I wouldn't.  Maybe the pirates should maybe just not buy it... AND not steal it.  What a concept, not stealing.

 

Copyright infringement is not theft, but I can understand how complex notions escape some people. 

[Lord Raijin]

Would you break into a car dealer shop and take a car for a joyride to test it if they didn't offer a test ride?

 

 

No demo is bad, yes. Still doesn't make pirating right. Nevermind that devs can just as easily create demos that aren't truly representative of the game, making them hardly a reliable reference point to start with.

 

Not producing a demo for the consumers is just as bad as stealing, especially for PC users. You're forcing the consumer to purchase an expensive full version of the game to which they're incapable of returning it once the plastic is physically removed from PC box. Not everyone is into the digital download. Some of us want to own the physical box.

[DanielCofour]

Yeah, I'm not talking about legal definitions.  Just sticking to the basics.  "Thou Shalt Not Steal"  covers pretty much all of the situations where you nefariously give yourself access to stuff you have no right to.  But hey, I get that basic morality escapes some people.

 

Well, you kind of proved my point at "basic morality". Prey tell what is basic morality? It's wrong to steal? What about a starving orphan stealing an apple? It's wrong to kill? What if you could save a hundred people by killing the one who wants to kill them? And these are just the "basics" of complex morality. I wouldn't bother you with things like the Trolley dilemma)

 

Yeah. There is no such things as "basic morality". My point stands about some people and complex notions. 

[Sartoz]

You mean someone actually wants to play DAI MultiPlayer?

[brzoz]

i think whoever cracked Denuvo did this for a cool achievement. i really don't mind people who crack such software.

 

i do mind people who cannot appreciate the developers and choose to steal the IP instead of supporting the industry by buying games. stealing such software, especially when such concept as open source is considered an ugly, terrorist word, only slows down the creation of new games.

another story is that people don't want to pay for poor quality but let's not dwell on how it applies to DAI

 

please, don't compare basic needs, like stealing an apple, to stealing to satisfy the need for entertainment.

 

 

 

i chose to support D:OS kickstarter, I chose to buy the game afterwards and give it as a gift to my friends and family. i chose to support the studio because i appreciate their work and the uncut, mostly due to scarce resources, gem they've created.

 

i chose to buy DAI and after few minutes i decided i cannot enjoy it in any way, got the refund, advised my friends not to buy it. i chose not to support this IP further because publisher seems to spend more money for marketing the flawed product and protecting itself from losing money at gamers expense than to upgrade its quality.

[WoJo2307]

There is a working crack, and that is a great thing.
Denuvo is a piece of ****. Only thing it does is ****** the game for those who bought it.
I use crack on genuine game only to fix bugs it causes.

[scrutinizer]

And stop complaining about piracy. It's not the boogeyman some people think it is. 

It actually is for the developers who try to combat it. Their struggle is pointless, and the potential loss of trust among their customers will hurt them more than some people pirating their game. It does not matter as they have infinite amount of reproducable at no cost good (digital world, baby), so there is no tangible loss for them. 

 

i think whoever cracked Denuvo did this for a cool achievement. i really don't mind people who crack such software.

 Agreed. I would guess the mentality of crackers is 'the bigger the challenge, the more effort they gonna put to break it'. Next milestone and a proof that they cannot be contained.

[dlux]

Not producing a demo for the consumers is just as bad as stealing, especially for PC users. You're forcing the consumer to purchase an expensive full version of the game to which they're incapable of returning it once the plastic is physically removed from PC box. Not everyone is into the digital download. Some of us want to own the physical box.

If you want to demo the game then buy it on Origin. You can test the game for 24 hours and get a refund if you don't like it.

[Chaos17]

a hacker group announced they already crack Denuvo and its a matter of time when they release the pirated DA:inquisition
it will be unfair for gamers who actually buy games if this comes out...BIOWARE DO SOMETHING!

I will laugh when the time will come when people will confirm that DENUVO impact pc performance

[WashclothRepairMan]

"This just in, hackers are attempting to pirate a popular video game. More on that as it develops. In other news, water is wet."

 

More like "DRM does not work and only hurts paying customers. In other news, sky still blue."

[Sylvius the Mad]

a hacker group announced they already crack Denuvo and its a matter of time when they release the pirated DA:inquisition
it will be unfair for gamers who actually buy games if this comes out...BIOWARE DO SOMETHING!

Unfair how? You bought a game you wanted at a price you were willing to pay. There's literally nothing that can happen now that would effect the fairness of that event.

[Sylvius the Mad]

Next game all the content will probably stream from the EA servers anyway.

That would almost certainly signal the end of my time here.

[Lord Raijin]

If you want to demo the game then buy it on Origin. You can test the game for 24 hours and get a refund if you don't like it.

 

Like I said before not everyone is into the digital format, and not everyone wants to spend several endless hours downloading a game (Not everyone has the luxury of having ultra fast internet speeds) to their computer. For me I prefer to slip in the DVD software into my DVD ROM to install the game. I don't have to waste bandwidth from this prefererd method.

[Lord Raijin]

"You're forcing" - Really?  Bioware put a gun to  their head and made them buy a game?  No option to  just choose not to buy it (or pirate it either) if they weren't willing?  That's kind of shocking and I think should be investigated.

 

No, nobody was forced to do anything.  They made a choice as a consumer.  Let's not get all dramatic here and pretend they  were forced to do anything.

 

Their not physically putting a gun to our heads and forcing us to buy the game, however they're using psychological and marketing technique to encourage people to buy their games. It is only normal considering the fact that gaming companies are out to make money on their products. A lot of people are emotionally attached in this franchised series, and BioWare knows it. Why else did they bring back popular characters like Cullen and Varric? Can't think up of a better reason $$$$$$$

 

Anyhow a Demo downloadable trial version is the way to go.

[Setiweb]

http://www.dsogaming...s-been-cracked/

 

Allegedly.

[Maboroshi]

Relax guys.....  Like I said in an earlier post, Bioware did such a "great" job that even pirates will most likely avoid wasting HD space installing this "glorious" game into their systems. I do have to give props to Bioware though. They may actually manage to deter piracy with this one game though not because of their DRM but rather because of how utterly mediocre the game turned out.

 

Way to go BW.....

Modifié par Maboroshi, 03 décembre 2014 - 02:20 .