so its come to my attention that mages and archers are clearly over used :l i mean pretty much every lobby i get into has 2-3 mages and 1 archer.. then there is me, either an alchemist or a warrior.
like yeah mages and that are good but we miss out on so many treasure rooms that its not funny 
and the main point of these games is to get gold to get better gear..
then what makes it even worse is when you have a keeper/ele that only uses barrier on themselves! WHERES THE TEAMWORK?
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I'm hoping it'll all even out once Reaver is bugfixed. Looking forward to not playing Warrior every game. Also to be fair, Elementalists mostly use barrier for the damage amp.
sorry read that wrong.
i mean a good team comp in my eyes, is a tank, 2 ranged (mage or archers) and an assassin/damage dealer.
Because ranged enemies are pumped too high. Most warrior classes except for legionare and late-game templar die to archers/mages before they can get close to do anything about it. Much easier to just be an archer/ranger in the first place unless you are just especially into melee classes, which doesn't seem to be the majority.
They need to either nerf ranged mobs or greatly beef up the ranged defense potential of warriors, else this will remain a common problem.
if you use the team comp i stated, works like a charm. Legionnaire goes in becomes god and takes all agro, assassin goes behind and takes out the mages/archers. meanwhile our mages/archers are giving cover and dealing good aoe damage with the tank.
but hey just go with an army of mages, that's cool too.
if you use the team comp i stated, works like a charm. Legionnaire goes in becomes god and takes all agro, assassin goes behind and takes out the mages/archers. meanwhile our mages/archers are giving cover and dealing good aoe damage with the tank.
but hey just go with an army of mages, that's cool too.
Except that Legionare isn't the only warrior there, your team comp leaves out a whole lot of other classes especially other warriors, unless your solution is just tough luck to people who are interested in playing something other than sword and board tank.
Its always funny when the archers run off by themselves and get wrecked too. I just jump on their bodies and talk **** over the mic. Next time they will stay with their team.
if you use the team comp i stated, works like a charm. Legionnaire goes in becomes god and takes all agro, assassin goes behind and takes out the mages/archers. meanwhile our mages/archers are giving cover and dealing good aoe damage with the tank.
but hey just go with an army of mages, that's cool too.
yeah well you don't need the legionnaire, you can do it with any warrior but this is where the team needs a mage with constant barriers.
don't get me wrong mages and archers are fun, but most of the ones ive played with don't seem to think its a team game.
Its always funny when the archers run off by themselves and get wrecked too. I just jump on their bodies and talk **** over the mic. Next time they will stay with their team.
HAHAH my friend stands on them and spams the revive button while talking smack rather funny to watch!
The problem is it's just faster to kill all of them with 4 mages. By the time a Warrior gets in range of a melee character, mages already have killed everything. What's the point of Warriors then if it's not needed for offense or defense? Warriors got the short end of the stick.
that's fine for speed runs. but what about all the looters who play the game? the ones who want any and all pots, hope to get every treasure room? they miss out because people fond and easy way to play?
me personally i like the challenge of being a warrior and having to play smart.
im not trying to tell people how to play, i mean like you bought this game with your money so play how you want, just try and play like a team :L
I definitely agree that a lot of mages/archers seem to think they're more powerful than they are. My Ele is perfectly capable of soloing threatening trash but I still wait for Melees on the team to go in first. It's common courtesy, otherwise they don't get to do much ;x plus it helps group things up nice and tight for AoEs. Win/win. I especially hate when some AW/Archer/Alchemist (they seem to be the common offenders) rush in and get people killed especially in earlier levels. I can definitely sympathize. But, just the same, warriors require a higher amount of skill to keep alive and effective than other classes. Some people might like that challenge, others just wanna watch **** die. I'd say the latter are in the majority.
I definitely agree that a lot of mages/archers seem to think they're more powerful than they are. My Ele is perfectly capable of soloing threatening trash but I still wait for Melees on the team to go in first. It's common courtesy, otherwise they don't get to do much ;x plus it helps group things up nice and tight for AoEs. Win/win. I especially hate when some AW/Archer/Alchemist (they seem to be the common offenders) rush in and get people killed especially in earlier levels. I can definitely sympathize. But, just the same, warriors require a higher amount of skill to keep alive and effective than other classes. Some people might like that challenge, others just wanna watch **** die. I'd say the latter are in the majority.
a little teamwork and patience can go along way, and make a game more fun then just blowing **** up 
I love archer and played a lot using him. I just like the feeling of everyone else up front, me at the back, kill everything...
@xlm1994 that's good! I like archers like you, not the ones who run up front and draw agro
Yea possibly, until you die and i still refuse to go anywhere near the enemies.
Honestly archers can't do much damage standing in the front, if they use long shot.
+1 for the original post. There are so many rogues and mages around that people are genuinely surprised when they see my high level Templar in lobbies.
+1 for the original post. There are so many rogues and mages around that people are genuinely surprised when they see my high level Templar in lobbies.
that's fine for speed runs. but what about all the looters who play the game? the ones who want any and all pots, hope to get every treasure room? they miss out because people fond and easy way to play?
me personally i like the challenge of being a warrior and having to play smart.
im not trying to tell people how to play, i mean like you bought this game with your money so play how you want, just try and play like a team :L
You're missing the point. One thing doesn't exclude the other. 4 mages can still loot all they can (sure they're gonna miss some doors, but they can still go all out looting) or just speed run. They can play smart and like a team or try to solo everything. All I'm saying is it's gonna be faster with 4 mages.
I feel bad for Warriors because I don't see a logical reason to play them at all. You can love them all you want and that's perfectly fine, but they're still gonna lack range, CC and speed compared to mages or archers. I love playing the Assassin, but I know fully well that I have absolutely no chance of killing 25% of the mob because by the time I down 1 archer, the 7 others will already be dead by the hands of our mages/archers. In fact, if I hadn't killed that archer with my Assassin, it'd still be dead anyway so my contribution is kinda zero.
That's what I don't like about the game, melee characters get the shaft big time when it comes to killing and they don't even get the default aggro to defend the range so it's kinda pointless logically. Don't get me wrong, they're fun to play and I get it, they just don't get the big end of the stick that's all.
You're missing the point. One thing doesn't exclude the other. 4 mages can still loot all they can (sure they're gonna miss some doors, but they can still go all out looting) or just speed run. They can play smart and like a team or try to solo everything. All I'm saying is it's gonna be faster with 4 mages.
I feel bad for Warriors because I don't see a logical reason to play them at all. You can love them all you want and that's perfectly fine, but they're still gonna lack range, CC and speed compared to mages or archers. I love playing the Assassin, but I know fully well that I have absolutely no chance of killing 25% of the mob because by the time I down 1 archer, the 7 others will already be dead by the hands of our mages/archers. In fact, if I hadn't killed that archer with my Assassin, it'd still be dead anyway so my contribution is kinda zero.
That's what I don't like about the game, melee characters get the shaft big time when it comes to killing and they don't even get the default aggro to defend the range so it's kinda pointless logically. Don't get me wrong, they're fun to play and I get it, they just don't get the big end of the stick that's all.
I prefer a challenge so I'll stay with my warriors
I was kicked for a second time last night for just being a Templar. I don't get it. Maybe they hate them because of the lore or maybe there is some terrible templar out there ruining it for everyone.+1 for the original post. There are so many rogues and mages around that people are genuinely surprised when they see my high level Templar in lobbies.
I was kicked for a second time last night for just being a Templar. I don't get it. Maybe they hate them because of the lore or maybe there is some terrible template out there ruining it for everyone.
Having fancy looking banner and icon helps. Sad but true.
Its always funny when the archers run off by themselves and get wrecked too. I just jump on their bodies and talk **** over the mic. Next time they will stay with their team.
You think there will be a next time? I'd just quit and find someone to play with who isn't a douchebag.
You think there will be a next time? I'd just quit and find someone to play with who isn't a douchebag.
So your saying, your gonna run out try and be a hero and ragequit when no one on the team likes you?
Why stay if the team doesn't like you, and won't revive you?
So your saying, your gonna run out try and be a hero and ragequit when no one on the team likes you?
When did I say that?
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