Quite the opposite. It makes DA2 even more pathetic because we see that DAO was not a fluke, the DA team can make great games and tell stories that make sense. They simply chose not to in that catastrophe of a title. Which makes it sad.
Yes. I won't say that DA2 was a work of art but in hindsight I enjoyed it a lot more than I find myself enjoying DAI. No matter how many hours I sink into DAI all I can think of are the things I miss from DA2:
What irks me the most, I think is: Although, n DAO we had a silent protagonist, we spent enough time with him/her to really invest in them. In DA2 we had a character with a set backstory and 3 distinct pdersonalities we could guide through an important part of his/her life. In inquisition? Well, here we have a protagonist that is somewhere inbetween... not interesting enough on it's own to really invest in, and not controllable enough to really make it our own.
I was expecting DAI to take the best of DAO and DA2. It didn't.
I must say the character development in DA2 was much more believable and the games main plot line had way less plot holes than the story of DAI. Never did I have the feeling, that any event in the game was summoned out of thin air in DA2. With DAI that sometimes was the case. The quests of DA2 felt more connected to the main plot line, which made it all the more interesting to do them. Thus I have to say, I would happily relinquish the "120 hours of gameplay (which mostly consisted of collecting shards and mosaics) and all the beautiful scenery (I have to admit, I got bored pretty fast)" for a longer and better main quest plot line.
I want to be done with the game in 3 or 4 days, have some great entertainment value and have something to think about, and -most importantly- not have the impression that playing the game was exhausting or utterly work.
It pretty much took very little from Origins, and the worst from DA2. They did add a lot of new things, though. Things I felt really worked well. It didn't feel like Dragon Age, though. More of a copy and paste patchwork of features found in other games.
So far I'll give it a solid 7 out of 10. I think Bioware did really well with the new engine, too. I had my fears about that one. Turned out it worked like a charm.
Killed my first dragon today. Worst part of the game. It was like the Arishok fight x10. Took about 40 minutes of hacking, to kill the damn thing. Spawning waves of dragonlings didn't add any enjoyment either.
Once the game is patched, and the bugs are fixed, I might end up giving it an 8 out of 10.
I have always said DA2 was a 'good' game. It just falls so far into the shadow of its predecessor that it makes it seem like the unwanted stepchild of the family. DA:I is proving to be a great successor to DA:O, even with its clunky tac cam.
That said, DA2 had some of the most memorable characters of them all.
It made me appreciate Varric a lot more.
He's glued to my party line up.
I'd say I miss having Hawkes distinct personalities. The inquisitor just felt bland as a character and responses where mostly questions/neutral.
I miss the option to murder knife and persuade, intimidate, lie, etc options.
Didn't the devs say the game would have lots of options for diplomacy and such? To avoid confrontations.
I know people have different opinions and all, but I really just can't wrap my mind around how people can like DA2 storywise. The story was on the rails so much it made Final Fantasy look like Skyrim, and it was nonsensical to boot. The story just completely falls apart the second you put it under any scrutiny.
On purpose or by chance (by circumstances of developing) but they made all 3 games very different. Different in every way. Some might do not like that inconsistency but to me it's just 3 independent games in one universe, each is great, each makes you appreciate another even more and re-play for that particular feeling you can get only from that particular game (can not even say "part").
So, in a way it might be "yes" to original question, though this is without comparison, simply appreciation and underlining good things about DA2.
I enjoyed DA2. But I didnt enjoy the re-used environments.
I know people have different opinions and all, but I really just can't wrap my mind around how people can like DA2 storywise. The story was on the rails so much it made Final Fantasy look like Skyrim, and it was nonsensical to boot. The story just completely falls apart the second you put it under any scrutiny.
It does? I dunno, but I think the story holds up pretty well compared to DAO's or DAI's, who could be incredibly disjointed in places... I mean, the troops fighting in the Orlesian civil war don't know the war is over, but they know about the inquisition and even who the inquisitor is and that they can't believe what he tells them? Yea...
Makes me want to go back and romance Merrill all over again and having hair that stays the color you selected in CC would be pretty nice to.
It does? I dunno, but I think the story holds up pretty well compared to DAO's or DAI's, who could be incredibly disjointed in places... I mean, the troops fighting in the Orlesian civil war don't know the war is over, but they know about the inquisition and even who the inquisitor is and that they can't believe what he tells them? Yea...
I never disliked DA2 although I wasn't a big fan of the reused assets, the ridiculous amount of bloodmages and the lack of tactical cam.
Some things that I do miss from DA2 in DA:I are rivalry( although I'm happy that there is no approval meter anymore) and sarcastic Hawke, ( although sarcastic Inquisitor would've been a bad bad idea considering the power the Inquisition wields
I tried really hard to think of other things that I liked better in DA2 but nothing comes up...
Edit: Yes!! I remembered, I prefered Cassandra's look in DA2!
I know people have different opinions and all, but I really just can't wrap my mind around how people can like DA2 storywise. The story was on the rails so much it made Final Fantasy look like Skyrim, and it was nonsensical to boot. The story just completely falls apart the second you put it under any scrutiny.
Yeah, pretty much on rails in my opinion as well. Hawke to me was some what boring and was over shadowed by more interesting characters as well like Varric and Fenris. But the one thing that bugs me the the most about the main this game is that the antagonist in Inquisition is that he really doesn't exist unless you bought the Legacy DLC in DA II.
Plenty of good things in DA2 as well, though. I firmly believe that if the game hadn't been rushed, it could have been pretty damn good. The idea behind it is rather cool. I just wished they had added more options and the possibility to affect the story more. Maybe getting to pick different patch when you rise to power. Gaining power through crime, diplomacy, heroics. Stuff like that. Each with consequences.
It does? I dunno, but I think the story holds up pretty well compared to DAO's or DAI's, who could be incredibly disjointed in places... I mean, the troops fighting in the Orlesian civil war don't know the war is over, but they know about the inquisition and even who the inquisitor is and that they can't believe what he tells them? Yea...
Seriously? The entire story hinges on Kirkwall making people go crazy and evil. Whether it's Corypheus' presence as some wardens theorize or the events in the Enigma of Kirkwall as its writers theorize, it's pretty much a fact that Kirkwall makes people commit atrocities. And yet, aside from the two codex writers I just mentioned, no one seems to realize this! Everyone is living in the house from Poltergeist and no one figures out something is dreadfully wrong! What?! What?! How does this escape everyone's notice! Even better, the Chantry decides that Kirkwall is the perfect place to keep the Free March's mages. Not just Kirkwall, but the place in Kirkwall where they made slaves regret being born. The veil has got to be like tissue paper there, and neither the mages nor the templars think this might not be the best idea in history. The story hinges on everyone in Kirkwall being oblivious and moronic.
Of course that's not all. As soon as you get off the boat, the stupidity begins. The family even staying in Kirkwall is crazy. They're basically a jewish family on the run during WWII that decided to stay in Berlin because mom's feet hurt. Yeah, that's beautiful. Then there's the retcons. Countless stuff was retconned in DA2. Most of the boons you get to choose in DAO were retconned from the epilogue slides telling us they worked out. Anders, Justice, and Leliana just off the top of my head were brought back from the dead with either no reason given or a hilariously bad asspull. And with no good reason either: there was nothing special about any of those characters that they couldn't have had a new character fill their spot.
Hey, you pro mage or pro templar? Doesn't matter - if you're pro-mage you have to hunt down mages for the templars and if you're pro-templar you have to make friendly with an abomination and a blood mage and have no option to turn them in. Seems legit, huh? Almost as legit as having to let Sister Petrice walk after she tries to kill you. She's got one guard and no one knows she's there or what she's doing. There's no way that killing the person that just tried to kill you could be linked back to you. Motive and opportunity. But you can't because bad writing. Oh hey, did you know that you can warn Cullen about Anders' bomb? Cullen says he'll take care of it and then it's never mentioned again. While we're on that topic, ever wonder where Anders got the recipe for the Gaatlok? The most closely guarded secret in the world. Anders gets it, it's never even touched upon. And yes, he had the Gaatlok, not a lesser explosive. Qunari gaatlok is referred to as "black powder", which was the real life name of the ancient explosive that's made from the same stuff he had us gather.
Yeah, DA2 is a real frickin' masterpiece.
It definitely made me reminisce about my journeys in DA2. I loved that game when I played it, so I think while I recover from the shock of completing a second playthrough, I might run through DA2 again.
I need my fix of Hawke deflecting everything with his funny bone.
I always liked DA2, and I'm glad that Inquisition follows, and eventually ties, many of the plot threads it started.
I said "it holds up to DAO and DAI", because you can just as well find stupid writing like that in the other games. Difference is, for me, atleast I actually see what is happening/am a part of it, not get it told by lore snippets on a map, while I run around the countryside looking for lost puppies and collecting flowers... political negotiations, spy missions, epic battles, everything happens "somewhere else" while the inquisitor "explores the open world".... sorry, I just can't get behind that, it feels silly.
I said "it holds up to DAO and DAI", because you can just as well find stupid writing like that in the other games.
And yet, the best you can come up with is that soldiers in the Exalted Plains haven't heard about recent news while they have heard about slightly older news. Yes, surely that's on par with everyone in Kirkwall not realizing they're living in a portal to hell.
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I always saw DA2 as wasted potential.
I'll certainly enjoy going through it again knowing that DAI is a vast improvement though.
Makes me not want to give up on the franchise altogether.
Well done Mike.
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