It's HIGHLY unlikely that Flemeth and Andraste are one in the same.
I also don't like the idea of Andraste being a vessel for Mythal, due to it, among other theories, leaning toward the idea that pretty much everything (except maybe Dwarf stuff) leads back to the elves. I'm just not a big fan of the idea of everything leading back to one source.
Do you think Flemeth is Andraste? (Spoilers)
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#127
Posté 16 mars 2015 - 06:05
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I don't care for the idea of Andraste being a vessel for Mythal either, but I kind of do like the idea of Andraste, Mythal, and Flemeth being vessels for the same spirit.
Hypothetically, what would that spirit be? Justice, perhaps?
#128
Posté 16 mars 2015 - 06:48
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Well, Browall utters "Andraste's balls!" upon discovering the Well of Sorrows, so it might be Krem at best.
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#130
Posté 16 mars 2015 - 08:34
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I don't care for the idea of Andraste being a vessel for Mythal either, but I kind of do like the idea of Andraste, Mythal, and Flemeth being vessels for the same spirit.
Hypothetically, what would that spirit be? Justice, perhaps?
Because the stories are varied, I'm willing to bet it was a spirit turned demon ala Justice turning into Vengeance.
A spirit of motherly compassion turned to...motherly vengeance?
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#131
Posté 16 mars 2015 - 09:36
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For now, I don't believe Flemeth is Andraste.
#132
Posté 16 mars 2015 - 09:55
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The spirit that stops Corpheyus from pursuing the Inquisitor through the mirror is also a blonde human - much like Andraste. Though this is fuzzy evidence at best because of the whole glowly bit.
Placeholder. A dev confirmed it.
#133
Posté 16 mars 2015 - 10:48
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Flemeth, in addition to having an elven god inside her, is now Andraste, who is btw also Dumat if the theories are to be believed.
She's now a supergod.
And most of all...
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#134
Posté 17 mars 2015 - 01:32
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What seems the best fit to me, is that Mythal was trapped, sundered, and/or corrupted, that dragon form becoming Dumat of the Old Gods. The First Blight was then ended with the use of the first Dark Ritual, and the Old God Baby that resulted was spirited away and grew into Andraste.
Andraste didn't receive Mythal because she was a woman betrayed, but because she was born with it, she was fated to it.
As is often the case, it seems like the truth between two opposite ideological factions is somewhere in the middle, so it's probable that both the southern and Tevinter Chantries are at least partially right. Andraste probably was a mage, but one who, growing up in the shadow of Tevinter and the Blights, was of the opinion that mages maybe shouldn't be in charge, or at least shouldn't use their power to put themselves in charge. The Orlesian Chantry has warped history to their own ends as much as any one else, so I'm not going to take anything they say as complete truth, even if there is a nugget.
It also seems possible that Mythal's god soul was passed down through Andraste's daughter's all-female bloodline, and that Flemeth was the eventual result of this, though it is also possible that Flemeth was not related, was simply in a position to attract the notice of Mythal, and was the start of a new chain of daughters. It may be that Morrigan gave birth to a son because she had not yet taken on Mythal. You can blame OGB Kieran's gender on the dragon soul, and if there's no soul, it may just be chance that he was also male. He has the same genetics either way.
Not to rain on your parade, but Solas says that there is no connection between elven pantheon and old god dragons. Since he is part of the elven pantheon I think its safe to assume he is right.
He could be lying tho...
#135
Posté 17 mars 2015 - 03:09
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Andraste as Flemeth, no. Flemeth was born centuries later, according to the stories.
Andraste as Mythal, or a host for Mythal...maybe.
#137
Posté 17 mars 2015 - 03:35
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No, I do think the similarities are meant to be there however because the writers thought it would be clever. Make us think one thing because the truth is completely different.
#138
Posté 17 mars 2015 - 04:29
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Not to rain on your parade, but Solas says that there is no connection between elven pantheon and old god dragons. Since he is part of the elven pantheon I think its safe to assume he is right.
He could be lying tho...
He says there's no evidence in any lore to suggest it, which sounds to me like he's trying to avert suspicion. He's very quick to say it, too.
