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[Dave of Canada]

Gaspard seemed like the good choice and it didn't have negative effects.

[TK514]

I can see what you're saying.  I think they were able to refine it somewhat in the Winter Palace, particularly with the addition of the third 'side'.

[Knight of Dane]

I didn't see any of them as a really bad choice. Gaspad was a ****** like Bhelen but no where near as fierce and much more dull.

 

Although Briala was the obvious controversial choice.

[Ryriena]

I had suffed the game up their ass by saying they need a better pass time since I found blackmail on all of y'all in a matter of a few hours. You need to find a better way to hide ****.

[daveliam]

I had suffed the game up their ass by saying they need a better pass time since I found blackmail on all of y'all in a matter of a few hours. You need to find a better way to hide ****.

 

Ha.  Yeah, for masters of "The Game", my qunari mercenary (decidedly not an Orlesian courtesan) was able to outplay all three of them over the course of a single Ball.  Tsk, tsk, Celene.  I didn't even need Vivienne (who I brought just in case). 

[Knight of Dane]

Ha.  Yeah, for masters of "The Game", my qunari mercenary (decidedly not an Orlesian courtesan) was able to outplay all three of them over the course of a single Ball.  Tsk, tsk, Celene.  I didn't even need Vivienne (who I brought just in case). 

I was very disappointed in how little Vivienne got to play along.

[Milan92]

From what I have read, choosing a single ruler is the best decision.

 

Dividing the throne between them actually leads to more problems.

[Bann Duncan]

I still don't agree with the faux-contrarian BSN consensus that Bhelen was somehow great despite being murdering scum.

[Knight of Dane]

From what I have read, choosing a single ruler is the best decision.

 

Dividing the throne between them actually leads to more problems.

Such as I understood it, having more than one ruler gives less long term stability but more power to the inquisition because Celene knows she needs to be on good terms with them if Gaspard turns on her, and Gaspard knows his forces won't win a war against both Celene and the Inquisiton.

[Milan92]

Such as I understood it, having more than one ruler gives less long term stability but more power to the inquisition because Celene knows she needs to be on good terms with them if Gaspard turns on her, and Gaspard knows his forces won't win a war against both Celene and the Inquisiton.

 

That only happens if you let Celene stay in power and then let her exile Gaspard.

[Knight of Dane]

I still don't agree with the faux-contrarian BSN consensus that Bhelen was somehow great despite being murdering scum.

 

I actually like that both Bhelen and Harrowmont have good and bad points about them being king. Bhelen's scum but he gets sh!t done. Harowmont is a nice guy but a traditionalist that isolates the dwarves.

[Bann Duncan]

Such as I understood it, having more than one ruler gives less long term stability but more power to the inquisition because Celene knows she needs to be on good terms with them if Gaspard turns on her, and Gaspard knows his forces won't win a war against both Celene and the Inquisiton.

 

I thought that was when you keep Celene in power but don't let her execute Gaspard (thereby leaving her in constant worry that he'll come back, making her support the Inquisition strongly.)

[daveliam]

I was very disappointed in how little Vivienne got to play along.

 

Agreed.  I kept checking back with her, like "Anytime, my dear!  Jump in, darling!  Anything you want to add here, Madame?"  Nada.  Feels like a wasted opportunity.  She's supposedly a master of The Game and it's being played on her home court and she just stands on the sidelines, mingling and eating canapes. 

 

I still don't agree with the faux-contrarian BSN consensus that Bhelen was somehow great despite being murdering scum.

 

While I can't stand Bhelen as a person, I prefer his political outlook and agenda.  It's a much more moderate approach to dwarven 'foreign relations'.  He's my selection for any Warden who isn't a dwarf noble.  I figure that the human and elf Wardens don't really have a dog in that fight, so they have no issue with him.  And the dwarf commoner should support him as he's Rica's patron.  That being said, my 'canon' Warden (as well as about 50% of most of my playthroughs) was a dwarf noble and I just can't get behind the idea of supporting the man who set about my personal downfall and the murder of our sibling and, ultimately, the death of my father.  Sorry, Bhelen, but I've got to make sure you don't "win" this one. 

[Knight of Dane]

That only happens if you let Celene stay in power and then let her exile Gaspard.

Also if you have all three of them agree. At least in my Epilogue it said Gaspard was planning evuhl stuff.

[Milan92]

I still don't agree with the faux-contrarian BSN consensus that Bhelen was somehow great despite being murdering scum.

 

Bhelen is progressive. He improves alot of lives in Orzammar and opens it up to the surface.

 

Harrowmont just wants everything to stay the same and completely isolates Orzammar. 

 

It really depends on what you personally view best.

[Bann Duncan]

Bhelen is progressive. He improves alot of lives in Orzammar and opens it up to the surface.

 

Harrowmont just wants everything to stay the same and completely isolates Orzammar. 

 

It really depends on what you personally view best.

 

The things he does are simply because he's sleeping with a casteless woman. Any trouble in that relationship and expect a crackdown worse than what they faced before.

[kyles3]

The things he does are simply because he's sleeping with a casteless woman. Any trouble in that relationship and expect a crackdown worse than what they faced before.

 

It's still more of a chance for the casteless than if you go with Harrowmont. That's why even my dwarf noble Warden went with Bhelen.

[CreepingShadow]

Gaspard seemed like the good choice and it didn't have negative effects.

Well except for the fact that his sister drives a knife straight in the Empress' chest in front of of Orlais' most powerful, yep absuloutly nothing bad happens.

[Tarvesh]

It's still more of a chance for the casteless than if you go with Harrowmont. That's why even my dwarf noble Warden went with Bhelen.

While my Aeducan agreed with what Bhelen wanted to do with the dwarves, he couldn't put a patricidal maniac on the throne. He chose the cooler head and the ancestors reward that choice.

When Harriwmont dies, the last remaining Aeducan (your Warden) is named King. The. You can go about bringing the dwarves out of the mire that is their class system in a more level headed, and agreeable, manner.