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[Wolfbrotther]

So, now we are at a crossroads.

 

We have been seeing some very interesting things the guys at the Cheat Engine forum have been doing but at the same time many of us are afraid to try it because we are afraid of being banned, as already stated by Bioware.

 

BUT, now, as I open my browser on Youtube to check my latest subscriptions updates, what a great surprise I have when I see Lady Insanity teaching how to use it!

 

Since we all know that she is a close friend (at least) of Bioware staff, I can assume that using Cheat Engine for single player (as stated by her) is OK.

 

Can we have an official word from Bioware on this subject once and for all?

 

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[Lord Raijin]

Looks like I need to unsubscribe to Lady Insanity's Youtube channel since she advocates cheating.

[Pootmatoot]

No-one in the history of gaming has been banned for cheating in a single player game.

[Chaos17]

No-one in the history of gaming has been banned for cheating in a single player game.

 

Claiming that it never happened in the history of video gaming in solo game is quite pretentious of you.

[Pootmatoot]

Claiming that it never happened in the history of video gaming in solo game is quite pretentious of you.

 

 

 

I'd be delighted if you can find an exception - the list you have to go through is pretty small, given there are only a handful of single player games in the last 5 years that have required an internet connection, which is the only way a ban could occur.

[Lord Raijin]

No-one in the history of gaming has been banned for cheating in a single player game.

 

That's true but it's still in poor choice to teach people how to cheat.

[Kantr]

If you are worried. Go offline while using it.

 

The only time they will ban you is if you use it in DAMP

[The_Prophet_of_Donk]

No-one in the history of gaming has been banned for cheating in a single player game.

I play modded xbox games (the saves are modded not the xbox) and as long as you're not affecting the gameplay of a multiplayer game, then it shouldn't even register that you're using mods/hacks/cheats. If you start unlocking achievements w/o having done them, that might be caught and I frown on the usage of modding software that does that (it exists if you want to pay), but otherwise I doubt other stuff would be caught.

 

Looks like I need to unsubscribe to Lady Insanity's Youtube channel since she advocates cheating.

She's explaining how to use software that is out there that has the possibility of causing BW to ban ppl. She is letting ppl know how to use it responsibly. I don't advocate MP cheating in any form, not even exploiting glitches, but I feel as if Insanity is helping ppl with this.

Also she is only changing the amount of items she has (money and crafting materials) I'm sure there is more you can change, but she doesn't go into that. It isn't making you invincible or even giving you God Weapons, just changing how rich you are and how often you can craft

[Lord Raijin]

I play modded xbox games (the saves are modded not the xbox) and as long as you're not affecting the gameplay of a multiplayer game, then it shouldn't even register that you're using mods/hacks/cheats. If you start unlocking achievements w/o having done them, that might be caught and I frown on the usage of modding software that does that (it exists if you want to pay), but otherwise I doubt other stuff would be caught.

 

She's explaining how to use software that is out there that has the possibility of causing BW to ban ppl. She is letting ppl know how to use it responsibly. I don't advocate MP cheating in any form, not even exploiting glitches, but I feel as if Insanity is helping ppl with this.

Also she is only changing the amount of items she has (money and crafting materials) I'm sure there is more you can change, but she doesn't go into that. It isn't making you invincible or even giving you God Weapons, just changing how rich you are and how often you can craft

 

Cheating can be used responsibly? I never knew that.

[FKA_Servo]

I modded both Mass Effect 2 and 3 on xbox and played a ton of multiplayer - never had an issue.

 

That's true but it's still in poor choice to teach people how to cheat.

 

I'm probably something like 70% done with the game, started a second concurrent playthrough last night. I anticipate this game is going to last me at least as long as DAO and DA2 (and I can truthfully say that I haven't exhausted either of them).

 

You know what's gonna get really old on my 7th playthrough? Money and resource gathering. Cheat away on single player.

[Kantr]

Can I cheat in a Broodmother romance?

[Degenerate Rakia Time]

I cheat because it makes no sence that the leader if the mighty Inquisition is broke

[hafiznero]

gaem2hardnerfpl0x

[The_Prophet_of_Donk]

Cheating can be used responsibly? I never knew that.

 

lol 

The way I view it is this: my first couple of PT's I do everything legitly, I get the full experience without any type of mods. After I feel I've gotten the most out of the game and I just want to have stupid fun, I can find a mod here or there. Skyrim has a God mode for 360 and basically you unlock all weapons, spells, etc... it's fun just to go around and ****** everyone off to where it seems like you're the new menace and everyone wants to kill you

 

But in the case of Lady Insanity, I don't know what her reasons behind doing this are, if this was on her first PT, I don't advocate that at all, though I still value her as an entertaining information source.

What I mean by "rsponsible" is this: Say you are just the average player and you hear about this Cheat Engine thing (I myself had never heard about it till last night). You now are thinking to yourself "I can change how much stuff I have and make this game easier! Oh man, this works awesome! I wonder if I can do this for DAMP?!" and then BW finds out and bans them for making themselves rich on DAMP... Ashe comes in and explains to ppl the "safe and responsible" way to use this tool. 

 

I still see this more as a mod than a Cheat... if you ever used any of the console commands then it's the same thing really...

 

Can I cheat in a Broodmother romance?

I worry about you sometimes.... this is one of those times

[Lord Raijin]

I modded both Mass Effect 2 and 3 on xbox and played a ton of multiplayer - never had an issue.

 

 

I'm probably something like 70% done with the game, started a second concurrent playthrough last night. I anticipate this game is going to last me at least as long as DAO and DA2 (and I can truthfully say that I haven't exhausted either of them).

 

You know what's gonna get really old on my 7th playthrough? Money and resource gathering. Cheat away on single player.

 

If the game is getting old on your 7th playthrough then perhaps you should play a different game. Cheating ruins the game... even on single player. How can you Role play by cheating? Can you explain the situation when you magically have an infinity of money and resources?

[Milan92]

So long as you don't cheat in MP, you won't get banned.

 

Cheating in SP doesn't affect anyone but you.

[Degenerate Rakia Time]

Cheating ruins the game... even on single player. How can you Role play by cheating? Can you explain the situation when you magically have an infinity of money and resources?

i think i explained it a minute ago and can you explain a situation where the most important person in Thedas doesnt have money for a single elfroot?

[Pootmatoot]

i think i explained it a minute ago and can you explain a situation where the most important person in Thedas doesnt have money for a single elfroot?

 

 

Just roleplay "Yeah, so I took out a mortgage on Skyhold...".

[FKA_Servo]

If the game is getting old on your 7th playthrough then perhaps you should play a different game. Cheating ruins the game... even on single player. How can you Role play by cheating? Can you explain the situation when you magically have an infinity of money and resources?

 

Can you explain why the leader of a world shaking political and religious organization, backed by entire nations, is out picking flowers for his apothecary?

 

I'm not tired of playing Mass Effect 2 and watching the story unfold, but I'm ok if I never have to scan another planet again. I love Dragon Age Origins excessively - but I use the skip the fade mod because the Fade is awful.

 

No game is 100% perfect, ESPECIALLY an RPG like this. They're always going to have irritating busywork that might not be bad the first time but gets old the 2nd, 3rd, or 10th time through. So cheat/mod/whatever, to maximize your enjoyment.

[The_Prophet_of_Donk]

If the game is getting old on your 7th playthrough then perhaps you should play a different game. Cheating ruins the game... even on single player. How can you Role play by cheating? Can you explain the situation when you magically have an infinity of money and resources?

Just to let you know, I'm not trying to be hateful (I don't think you are either) just like having conversations like this and finding out POV of different ppl.

 

Based off of the above point you make, I would feel like I would have more money and resources as I have a lot of allies (which btw do not grant me anything excet Influence). Though the best point to make off of your line of thinking is: Why as a mage of the Circle, at least in my mid-20's, do I only know 2 spells when the game starts? I should have a minimum of 8 spells (to fill up the 8 ability slots), as I've been in the Circle all my life! I can understand the Specializations, but nothing else, with your line of thinking, that is.

[Lord Raijin]

lol 

The way I view it is this: my first couple of PT's I do everything legitly, I get the full experience without any type of mods. After I feel I've gotten the most out of the game and I just want to have stupid fun, I can find a mod here or there. Skyrim has a God mode for 360 and basically you unlock all weapons, spells, etc... it's fun just to go around and ****** everyone off to where it seems like you're the new menace and everyone wants to kill you

 

But in the case of Lady Insanity, I don't know what her reasons behind doing this are, if this was on her first PT, I don't advocate that at all, though I still value her as an entertaining information source.

What I mean by "rsponsible" is this: Say you are just the average player and you hear about this Cheat Engine thing (I myself had never heard about it till last night). You now are thinking to yourself "I can change how much stuff I have and make this game easier! Oh man, this works awesome! I wonder if I can do this for DAMP?!" and then BW finds out and bans them for making themselves rich on DAMP... Ashe comes in and explains to ppl the "safe and responsible" way to use this tool. 

 

I still see this more as a mod than a Cheat... if you ever used any of the console commands then it's the same thing really...

 

I have no problem using mods for as long as it doesn't consist of being OPing, or giving you a greater advantage. I can't play Skyrim without using mods. I am guilty of it but I refuse to download any mods that are categorized of being "Godmode". I generally use mods that gives me better (custom made) armor/ robes and better textures (both environment and NPCs/player). I also heavily depend on mods to fix bugs and glitches that gaming companies refuses to fix... oh and the horses in Skyrim are SLOW so I use mods to speed up the horses at a realistic speed.

[Oryctolagus]

Can you explain the situation when you magically have an infinity of money and resources?

 

I'd wager it's probably along the lines of how a stub grows into a two-foot-tall elfroot plant when your back is turned.

 

But if you're serious, then that's bully for you.  You surely do not set the standard of integrity and fair play, however.  That'd be subjective.

[AlexMBrennan]

Can we have an official word from Bioware on this subject once and for all?

It's physically impossible to prevent or to detect (and the main reason any game with microtransactions stores all relevant data on servers)

 

 

 

That's true but it's still in poor choice to teach people how to cheat.

Skyrim has a console - is it irresponsible to teach people how to use it? Better call Bethesda and tell them to remove the "list" function which tells you all the commands then. 

 

And if you're OK with modding, then simply consider cheat engine or console trickery runtime modding. 

 

How can you Role play by cheating?

That's absurd, unless you are saying that there is only One True Campaign in One True Roleplaying Game which is worth playing. If I want to play a game where my inquisition has scouts that can gather elfroot instead of calling Obama to personally go mine some ore every time a soldier needs more bullets, then I think I should be free to do so. If I think that I would enjoy the game more if I didn't have to worry so much about gathering effing elfroot, then why not let me? How does me incrementing my elfroot counter harm your experience playing the game? 

 

If you want to run through the game with enough dexterity to never get hit and one-hit-kill archdemons, then that doesn't affect my experience either. I probably wouldn't enjoy it, which means Bioware not making this the default was a good idea, but neither am I hurt by you doing this. 

 

So where's the incentive for Bioware to come after these people? They harm no one, so all Bioware would be doing is pissing off potential customers. If Bioware were to ban me, I'd simply take it as confirmation that I don't want to be playing Bioware games and go back to Skyrim.

[The_Prophet_of_Donk]

 

So where's the incentive for Bioware to come after these people? They harm no one, so all Bioware would be doing is pissing off potential customers. If Bioware were to ban me, I'd simply take it as confirmation that I don't want to be playing Bioware games and go back to Skyrim.

But say someone max's out their Gold on DAMP? How do you view this? Do they deserve to be banned?

[Lord Raijin]

Just to let you know, I'm not trying to be hateful (I don't think you are either) just like having conversations like this and finding out POV of different ppl.

 

Based off of the above point you make, I would feel like I would have more money and resources as I have a lot of allies (which btw do not grant me anything excet Influence). Though the best point to make off of your line of thinking is: Why as a mage of the Circle, at least in my mid-20's, do I only know 2 spells when the game starts? I should have a minimum of 8 spells (to fill up the 8 ability slots), as I've been in the Circle all my life! I can understand the Specializations, but nothing else, with your line of thinking, that is.

 

I think I can try to explain this one to you in a roleplaying POV. The Templar's of the circle does not want their captive mages to become overly powerful so they restrict the mages on what type and kind of spell that they can learn to use. Remember when the First enchanter and the Knight Commander got extremely upset at you for snooping around the basement as you were aiding Jowan in the escape with his lover? This was after Jowan used blood magic on the Templars. I remember one of them (I think Irving) mentioning that some spells are not meant to be learned, and that the forbidden spells books are kept in the basement for safe keeping. The Chantry makes sure that the mages of the circle do not overpower their Templar jailors.

 

A weak mage is far easy to maintain and control rather than a few powerful mages.