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To be fair, I think the rumors could be sexual in nature because it's probably not common knowledge that Dorian is gay, unless he just goes around wearing a sign or something.

 

However, it is true that it has nothing to do *specifically* with being gay as it happens to Femquisitor as well, so nobody is being forced into a gay relationship with Dorian against their will.  



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To be fair, I think the rumors could be sexual in nature because it's probably not common knowledge that Dorian is gay, unless he just goes around wearing a sign or something.

 

However, it is true that it has nothing to do *specifically* with being gay as it happens to Femquisitor as well, so nobody is being forced into a gay relationship with Dorian against their will.  

 

Even if it didn't happen with the femquisitor it wouldn't be forcing people into a gay relationship.


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Even if it didn't happen with the femquisitor it wouldn't be forcing people into a gay relationship.

 

I'm not defending the OP's opinion.  I'm merely stating that the rumors could be sexual in nature without them having anything specifically to do with being gay.



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Actually, its got nothing to do with homosexuality, my female Inquisitor had the same issue, Mother Giselle talking about insinuations about my relationship with Dorian, if you follow whats being said then its clearly about the fact that Dorian is a Tevinter and as such is considered by many to be guilty of the issues plageuing Thedas because of that sole fact.



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If it's not about being gay... how can I be outraged about having the gay agenda forced upon me. 

 

It's obviously about being gay - because everyone forces gayness on everyone all the time... forget that Ghisselle hates Dorian because he practices an entirely different religion that doesn't even recognize Justine as a Divine.  It's obviously gay - because of gay. 

 

I'm offended at how gay things turn out all the gay... err... time.


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Unless you are also going to assume that Mother Giselle is insinuating that FemInquisitor is also really a man

 

Well, there was that strange glitch some people were having...

 

Mother Giselle = secret voice of Bioware mocking glitched characters whose in-game gender flags got swapped around.  I'm now sold on this theory.



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Speaking of boy loving, i hope rumors don't float around thedas that I might be a pedophile since I'm being kind to Cole.

 

I'm pretty sure any kind of romance between you and a murderous semi-invisible spirit trained as an assassin wouldn't focus on any such angle... people would probably be more scared of saying anything wrong about you, because Cole might be watching. :)



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Actually, its got nothing to do with homosexuality, my female Inquisitor had the same issue, Mother Giselle talking about insinuations about my relationship with Dorian, if you follow whats being said then its clearly about the fact that Dorian is a Tevinter and as such is considered by many to be guilty of the issues plageuing Thedas because of that sole fact.

 

Yeah, it's pretty clear what she's talking about, and it's Tevinter. If you're worried that someone thinks you're gay because you're a dude and you hang out with another dude, then the someone that you're worried about...is you.


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Speaking of boy loving, i hope rumors don't float around thedas that I might be a pedophile since I'm being kind to Cole.

 

Cole is around 20, or appears to be, according to his codex.



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Pretty sure later one Josephine mentioned there are rumours of the Inquisitor with all of the companions and many a noble lords amongst the upper class circles.

Gossip mags gonna gossip, what can you do?

 

Also Mother Giselle is more worried about the rumours on how The Herald of Andraste is being friendly to a Tevinter mage. She is uncomfortable because she knew you both to be good men, but public pressure is gonna pressure, so she will have to wrong you both. A lot of the Inquisition's overall drive and unity does hinge on religious fervour and appearances and such, so even if you know it is bullshit, you still have to pretend to be this holy man for PR. And helping a Vint with his problems and letting him stay at your castle is bad PR.

 

I wish both gamers and bioware itself didn't make such a big deal out of Dorian's sexual orientation. His defining quality should be his wish to better his country despite his upbringing, and his courage in getting out of his father and family's unrealistic expectations. Instead it is all gay gay gay and the internet bs that comes with it. Ugh.



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Speaking of boy loving, i hope rumors don't float around thedas that I might be a pedophile since I'm being kind to Cole.

 

How do you know there aren't rumours like that already?

Nice to Dorian: Vint sympathizer and gay

Nice to Cole: Blood mage and demon lover!!

Nice to Solas: elf-f*****

Nice to Varric: dwarf-f*****

Nice to Harding: sexual harassment 

Checking out the horses for the next trip: I heard the Inquisitor is into horses

Have a drink with the Chargers: he rode the Bull

Attend a Ball: he is doing half of the court

Accept Invite from Gaspard: he is probably doing Gaspard too.

 

Although it can be harder to form rumours about Cole when no one can remember Cole.


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Ding! Ding! Ding! And Ragabul is the winner.

It happens with a female Inquisitor too. Unless you are also going to assume that Mother Giselle is insinuating that FemInquisitor is also really a man, then it's safe to assume that she's not suggesting that she's sleeping with the gay magister.

It's about the <gasp> scandalous alliance between the Inquisition (which, after all, has its roots in the Chantry) and a Tevinter magister. Stop trying to look for reasons to be offended about sexuality.


Dave, if the rumor was about the inquisition's alliance with Dorian then don't you think Bioware conveyed that horribly? For one, it's about the Inquisitor and Dorian, not the inquisition and Dorian. Also, Ragabul hit the nail on the head when he said the scene displayed a sexual undertone, or in my case a HOMOSEXUAL undertone even when my inquistior didn't initate a romance with Dorian and has one with Cass, as well as not clicking those heart-romance options in all the dialogue my inquisitor had with Dorian.

I sum it up as either a scene poorly done by Bioware or a scene that is bugged and their was suppose to be something, less ghey perhaps.

Also, I'm not offended, just a little annoyed that the peasants of thedas think I'm a poofter now.

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Rumors could be anything.  That's the smart reason Giselle doesn't voice them, then we supply them from our imagination.'

 

I think that you assume it's the ghey and have such a white hot reaction tells more about you than anything else.


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Pretty sure later one Josephine mentioned there are rumours of the Inquisitor with all of the companions and many a noble lords amongst the upper class circles.
Gossip mags gonna gossip, what can you do?

Also Mother Giselle is more worried about the rumours on how The Herald of Andraste is being friendly to a Tevinter mage. She is uncomfortable because she knew you both to be good men, but public pressure is gonna pressure, so she will have to wrong you both. A lot of the Inquisition's overall drive and unity does hinge on religious fervour and appearances and such, so even if you know it is bullshit, you still have to pretend to be this holy man for PR. And helping a Vint with his problems and letting him stay at your castle is bad PR.

I wish both gamers and bioware itself didn't make such a big deal out of Dorian's sexual orientation. His defining quality should be his wish to better his country despite his upbringing, and his courage in getting out of his father and family's unrealistic expectations. Instead it is all gay gay gay and the internet bs that comes with it. Ugh.

I want to accept your statement on the matter, but I posted this thread after that scene because It sure as hell did not convey me having an alliance with a Vint as the rumor.

Mother Gizzele refused to utter the rumor, probably because it's sexual in nature.

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Rumors could be anything. That's the smart reason Giselle doesn't voice them, then we supply them from our imagination.'

I think that you assume it's the ghey and have such a white hot reaction tells more about you than anything else.


But i did not get the impression that the rumor was about an alliance with a Tevinter Mage. Again, I will sum it up as a poorly done scene since both female inquistiors have it too.

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Yeah, it's pretty clear what she's talking about, and it's Tevinter. If you're worried that someone thinks you're gay because you're a dude and you hang out with another dude, then the someone that you're worried about...is you.


Actually it's not so clear. It's muddled and poorly done. It seems more like the rumor is about the Inqusitor being ghey for Dorian.

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Actually it's not so clear. It's muddled and poorly done. It seems more like the rumor is about the Inqusitor being ghey for Dorian.

 

Are you really not able even to type the word out? Is it Giselle that's squeamish about it or you?


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Are you really not able even to type the word out? Is it Giselle that's squeamish about it or you?


Yes, Giselle is squeamish considering she wouldn't say what the rumor is about. And I don't think she should be embarrassed to say it if the rumor was the Inqusitor having an alliance with Dorian the Tevinter Mage.

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@Dutch: Well Dutch - bad news - there's been rumors about you and Arnold as well.

 

I'm kidding man - the world knows you're a manly straight manly man... go with the Maker and breed more gays. 


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Yes, Giselle is squeamish considering she wouldn't say what the rumor is about. And I don't think she should be embarrassed to say it if the rumor was the Inqusitor having an alliance with Dorian the Tevinter Mage.

 

Giselle is squeamish about what now? G-something-y?

 

Man, your interpretation of her motivations, for which we really have very little background, is pretty revelatory.



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Giselle is squeamish about what now? G-something-y?

Man, your interpretation of her motivations, for which we really have very little background, is pretty revelatory.


I think you've been overlooking everything I've posted and are just assuming that I'm homophobic when I'm not.

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If it's not about being gay... how can I be outraged about having the gay agenda forced upon me. 

 

It's obviously about being gay - because everyone forces gayness on everyone all the time... forget that Ghisselle hates Dorian because he practices an entirely different religion that doesn't even recognize Justine as a Divine.  It's obviously gay - because of gay. 

 

I'm offended at how gay things turn out all the gay... err... time.

 

Darn the gays and their evil agenda to make the world more fabulous!

Darn


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@Dutch: Well Dutch - bad news - there's been rumors about you and Arnold as well.

I'm kidding man - the world knows you're a manly straight manly man... go with the Maker and breed more gays.


Dutch = Arnold. So isn't it mastrubation?

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OP, most people read politics from that scene. How you read gay is beyond me.

If false perceptions of your character and habits from NPCs of a video game bother you this much, I feel bad for how you must cope in the real world, where many people assume many false things about everyone on a daily basis.



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@Dutch:  And you're ignoring anyone who tells you that a gay relationship is not the impression they got from it.

 

You start off asking - then when someone says it's not about being gay - you say:  "Well it probably was though because..." 


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