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[Captain Obvious]

Let me just say that as much as I loved Dragon Age: Origins, I had a few problems with the companions, first and foremost being that none of the romance options interested me. Leliana's fairy tales were boring, her religious devotion annoying, and her over-eagerness to join you... a bit off-puting and I could never really trust Morrigan. Regarding Leliana and Morrigan, I must admit that can't accurately describe why I didn't like their characters. I guess they just weren't my cup of tea. And I was never interested in a male romance option, although that was probably due more to the fact that Zevran came off as too... comical, maybe because he seemed like the romantic stereotype of an Italian, though I think a lot of it had to do with his voice-actor. Also, I was always a male character, so even if I couldn't romance Alistair. Not that I could've have given that I ended up disliking his character.

 

From a purely non-romantic view, only Sten, Oghren, Shale, and Wynne came off as characters that I liked. Sten seemed to be the only companion that didn't just immediately start telling everything about himself to you. And he's the only companion that actually STANDS UP to you in the game (I'm thinking of the time when you reach Haven). Granted, that scene in Haven may not result in a fight if he has a lot of respect for you by then, but it was still nice to see a companion character actually do that. 

 

So now we get to Dragon Age: Inquisition (the best game in the series in my estimation) and I gotta say, I enjoyed companion characters were a lot better than the ones in Origins. Dorian shares my sense of scholarliness and his family drama was rather engaging. He thinks a bit too highly of himself but that doesn't clash with his sense of maturity. Varric's humor was also great as usual. I could never like Alistair's jokes or witticisms ("Swooping is bad."). Varric also had a sense of seriousness to him and the scene after Hawke's demise where he tells a story about one of his many adventures was... quite sad. It showed a lot more emotion than any of the companion characters did in Origins (I know I'm going to get a lot of flak for saying that). Cassandra was a character willing to put up with a lot of ****, even if she disapproved with a lot of the Inquisitor's actions. I quite admire that. The Iron Bull is yet another good Qunari companion (seems like every Qunari in this series is fascinating, whether they're Ketojan, the Arashok, or Sten). His "Let's wreck **** up!" attitude was juxtaposed nicely with his sincere love for his own troops and the character development (whether he accepts his role as a Qunari or embraces being a Tal'vashoth) also had a lot of emotion to it. Blackwall's bluntness (like telling the Inquisitor he doesn't like him) was appreciated. It reminds of that same blunt honesty that Sten had in Origins. I'm probably also the only person here that likes Vivienne, probably due to her rather contrarian view that clashes with what seems to be most other mages in this game, but also because, as **** would have it, I also didn't like Fiona. Cole because of his unintentional humor and interesting insight into the world and people around him. But one thing that these characters had in common is that they both showed their vulnerable side (Blackwall at the tavern, Iron Bull after seeing his Chargers killed off, etc.)

 

I think BioWare was a lot better at showing that in this game than they were in Origins. That, and the characters were more multi-faceted. Oghren in Origins was more or less exactly like he presented himself: a drunk Dwarf who likes battle. Dog was... a dog. Even Wynne, while I did like her, was essentially preachy yet kindly and that perception never really changes. Alistair was a whiny jokester with some sob backstory

 

Anyone else feel the same way about the Inquisition companion characters?

[MrTijger]

I will say I miss the humor a bit, the barbs that Morrigan used to throw and the ones thrown her way have no equal in Inquisition, Varric and Cassandra have a nice double act going though. Overall the Inquisition characters do seem to have a bit more depth to them but its a close run thing for me, frankly I'm happy with both games in this regard and DA II, for all its faults, had some awesome companions as well.

[Knight of Dane]

No

 

Very good, but not better.

[mikeymoonshine]

Seems like the companions are a little more fleshed out in this game but no I think I liked the Origins companions better. I would say that I much prefer this lot to DA2's companions though and they are all very well written, Origins just had more stand out characters for me. 

[Captain Obvious]

I will say I miss the humor a bit, the barbs that Morrigan used to throw and the ones thrown her way have no equal in Inquisition, Varric and Cassandra have a nice double act going though. Overall the Inquisition characters do seem to have a bit more depth to them but its a close run thing for me, frankly I'm happy with both games in this regard and DA II, for all its faults, had some awesome companions as well.

The did more with less in Inquisition. I was able to take the characters more seriously and still laugh occasionally. The characters in Origins sometimes seemed like they were just being funny without showing their grimness much, their negative emotions.

[wickerman4]

Iron Bull and Dorian were a match but other than that no.

 

Solas started off well but died a quick moaning, bitching death. Vivian only started to get interesting right at the end. Sera was Jar Jar Binx reincarnated. Blackwall was dull as pig swill. Cole was.....was....what was his point? Varric is great but he's from DA2. Cassandra was getting warm then went nowhere.

 

Shallow and superficial characters created by having too many companions and not enough individual story for them to develop and grab your attention.

[Draining Dragon]

My analysis of the companions:

Sera is the most annoying companion since Anomen. That's saying a lot.
Dorian and Solas are boring.
Blackwall and Iron Bull are okay.
Cassandra, Varric, and Vivienne are awesome.

Overall, I liked the DAO cast a lot more.

[Dabrikishaw]

I like Alistair and Blackwall equally.

I like Morrigan and Solas equally.

I like Leliana a lot more than Sera.

I like Iron Bull more than Sten.

I like Wynne a lot more than Vivienne.

I like Cole more than Zevran.

I like Oghren and Varric equally.

I like Shale and Cassandra equally.

I like Dog and Dorian equally.

[Rifneno]

Yes, I like the companions here more than Origins too.  Both had some I really hated (Sera, Sten) but overall I find this group more fun.

[wickerman4]

I like lamp

[Marshal Moriarty]

Problem is same as usual - they have very little relevance to anything beyond their own personal issues. Its always been a problem in Bioware games, but particularly in this one, as the main plot tends to focus on you and your advisors with Cassandra and Varric occasionally chipping in. For the vast majority of the time though, your regular party members don't seem to matter for anything other than hitting stuff.

 

It doesn't help also that few of your characters feel like natural 'take them with you into the field' characters. Vivienne is a high society woman, and it never feels like she is either comfortable or the natural choice to take to what are usually wilderness style maps. Varric and Sera are also creatures of the city, who express unease at being in the great outdoors. Iron Bull has a day job in the chargers, and seems to come with you;'just because' etc etc.Cole's entire gimmick pretty much precludes him ever really fitting in to the party and Dorian's presence in the party feels entirely unexplained if you didn't support the mages and got his proper intro. If you support the Templars, he basically shows up to warn you of the attack and stays... because he just does. He tells you of Alexius, but that means very little if you didn't meet the man yourself.

 

I just never connected with any of them. It doesn't mean I think they're bad characters, but they do feel distant. That annoying new way of conducting conversations doesn't help either. As to the OP's point about them versus Orgins' character, I don't think they're anywhere close. Characters like Alistair, Morrigan, Leliana, Zevran etc have become icons of the franchise. Its hard to see any of them doing this. Cassandra and Varric maybe, but they were returning characters from DA2.

 

The best new character IMO was Josephine. The rest (and I include all the villains and NPCs, party members etc) were all just sort of okay. Acceptable, but nothing special. Well, except for Sera who I can't stand, I suppose...

[Arl Raylen]

Nah, the DA:O companions seemed more realistic in your interactions with them, same with DA2. Maybe because they weren't forced to bend to your will as a King/Religious Symbol.

[Medhia_Nox]

Yes.

 

The DA:O companions mostly feel like teens trying to find themselves.  Wynne and Sten being notable exceptions.  As I call them - the Cheerleader, Jock and Goth are just boring teen archetypes for me.

 

I feel like DA:I companions are more adult - they have made decisions about their lives and are dealing with them.  Even Cole - who is obviously searching for his life - brings a level of gravitas I think is deeply lacking in DA:O.  Even Leliana and Morrigan seem much more mature in this game.

 

I think DA:O companions are more traditional - they're defined by the Warden and the events revolving around the PC.

 

The DA:I companions are not shackled to the Inquisitor like lampreys - they serve the Inquisition first and then come to respect/or hate the PC.

[leadintea]

They're about equal to me. As much as I like Blackwall and Solas, they don't compare to the likes of Morrigan, Alistair, and Shale, but at the same time, I prefer Dorian and Sera much more than Zevran, Oghren, and Leliana (at least DAO Leliana).

[iCooper]

I prefer every set of companions ever over the DAO group. No one beats the DA2 companions though. Not even my beloved Dorian. They might have if the group had the same sense of companionship that DA2 had, but alas, they do not.

[Fearsome1]

Collectively, the Inquisitor's companions only edge out a few of the Origns gang overall. They are superior to DA 2's companions by a wide stretch and the current batch may be my favorite group in this franchise. 

 

No matter what class I played previously in the earlier games, no matter what gender my lead character was, some team members never sat well with me. There was usually at least one that I just didn't like, whether I made use of them or not. I have never outright hated any of the companions from these games. 

 

Like I said, the Inquisitor's team just might be my favorite franchise group, and they easily have the widest variety of personality traits and expressed opinions thus far presented - - - at least to me (I know some will believe otherwise). They are the most unique batch yet!

[keyip]

Yes, I find the Inquisition's companions to be pretty superior. Leliana and Wynne were so god damn boring in Origins.

[teh DRUMPf!!]

 For me it's...

 

1.) Awakening.

2.) Origins.

3.) Inquisition.

4.) um, ... Two.

 

None of them were bad, though. DA2 was the least of the four, but still pretty decent, just kinda hit-or-miss.

[phaonica]

DAO was better, imo. Not only that, but probably the DAO cameos were some of my favorite events in DAI.

[Linkenski]

Alistair and Morrigan are so hard to top and IMO none in DA:I do so, but for the rest I much prefer DAI. Oghren was a Gimli wannabe, Leliana was too sweet, Shale didn't know when to stop talking, Sten needed to get that stick out of his butt, and Wynne was.. I can't even remember.

I guess on the flip side all of DAOs cast had substantial backstories, but DAI's cast draws you in more, then leaves you slightly disappointed that there isn't enough stuff to know about each companion, but what was there was worth learning about.

[Zehealingman]

Yes.

[New Kid]

I would say they are about equal. I think Origins had better and worse companions, so it balances it for me.