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[WildOrchid]

Even if she doesn't know, it's still a real scumbag thing to do.  Believe me, nobody enjoys the revelation about the blood writing more than I do.  As Bull would say, Taarsidath-an halsaam.  But rubbing it in the face of one of the few good Dalish, and a supposed friend no less... wow.  Also, why are we not allowed to call her every low intelligence name in the book when Flemeth proves Mythal is/was real?  You know, like she does to the Inquisitor if they even give pause to the idea that Mythal was real?

 

You do know that Sera is scared of anything god/demon/magic, do you? She doesn't want to admit that they exist but she knows they exist. Hence why she says "I'm not sure i want to know".

[Vormaerin]

Tell us again how we're wrong for judging Sera by her actions.  That was funny as hell.  One of the worst defenses of someone I've heard in 22 years on the Internet.  Truly 0/10.

 

 

Oh, this is great.  Now you're questioning that Corypheus is what he clearly is to try and defend this awful, awful character.  Yes, it's just a madman's claims!  The fact that he's a highly intelligent darkspawn that command magic "that would shame any magister" who was locked away for 1,000 years by the wardens doesn't mean anything!  He's just a raving hobo, surely!  Probably ate a rat last night!  LOL, man, Sera defenders are too much.

 

It has nothing to do with defending Sera. There's plenty to dislike about her.  But some of the claims about her are not true.  And, no, there no evidence that Corypheus is what he claims to be.  Yeah, he's a darkspawn with powerful magic.  He might literally be the corrupted Magister who is telling the literal truth.  He might be a darkspawn abomination created by a spirit mimicking that magister.  He might be the magister he claims to be but otherwise completely insane with no idea what is actually "true" about his experiences.

 

Did you even listen to Solas talking about the Fade and how its many, many different realities at once?  You don't even know if glowy Justinia is Justinia, a spirit impersonating her, or Andraste herself in disguise.  And you see that in person.  So you are oh so positive that you know the literal truth about Corypheus based solely on his word?

[Rifneno]

Its not questioning anything to say Corypheus is a raving lunatic. He may be an ancient magister, but he's still a raging lunatic. His word deserves skepticism.

Again, because there's clearly no evidence for his claims.

[Vormaerin]

Even if she doesn't know, it's still a real scumbag thing to do.  Believe me, nobody enjoys the revelation about the blood writing more than I do.  As Bull would say, Taarsidath-an halsaam.  But rubbing it in the face of one of the few good Dalish, and a supposed friend no less... wow.  Also, why are we not allowed to call her every low intelligence name in the book when Flemeth proves Mythal is/was real?  You know, like she does to the Inquisitor if they even give pause to the idea that Mythal was real?

 

Actually, her opinion is that Mythal et al are basically demons. Not something you should be worshipping.

[Heimdall]

Even if she doesn't know, it's still a real scumbag thing to do.  Believe me, nobody enjoys the revelation about the blood writing more than I do.  As Bull would say, Taarsidath-an halsaam.  But rubbing it in the face of one of the few good Dalish, and a supposed friend no less... wow.  Also, why are we not allowed to call her every low intelligence name in the book when Flemeth proves Mythal is/was real?  You know, like she does to the Inquisitor if they even give pause to the idea that Mythal was real?

I honestly don't think it's that bad, did you really expect Sera to suddenly develope a filter? I'd probably say "I told you so" in that situation too (Being ignorant of what Solas did). It's not like she's mocking the Inquisitor and called the Inquisitor an idiot, she's more generally mocking the Dalish superiority complex that's lead them to look down on elves like her for centuries. Frankly, I think she's owed that moment.

Sera doesn't dismiss that Mythal might be real, as I understand it, just that if the elven gods are real they're probably just demons. Flemeth doesn't really prove anything.

[WildOrchid]

Actually, her opinion is that Mythal et al are basically demons. Not something you should be worshipping.

 

We aren't sure if they are demons or gods. We know absolutely nothing of them tbh.

[Heimdall]

Again, because there's clearly no evidence for his claims.

About what he saw in the Fade? No proof, none but his word.

[CrabbyCrackers]

i like sera , izzy seemed to old to be acting the way she was, and so trampy.  she carved dirty things on my stair railing, who does that ? a wordly 3 year old?

[Rifneno]

Man, this thread is glorious.  Sera defenders are trying to claim Corypheus isn't really one of the legendary tainted magisters now.  And Flemeth is clearly just a demon.  A border omniscient demon who runs around helping heroes.  Totally makes sense and isn't retarded in the least!

 

 It's not like she's mocking the Inquisitor and called the Inquisitor an idiot, she's more generally mocking the Dalish superiority complex that's lead them to look down on elves like her for centuries.

They should look down on her.  She's less than any decent person.  If all elves were like her, I could see why they were kept as slaves.  She's clearly inferior.  If my dog was as dumb as Sera, I'd have it put to sleep.  (And don't say that's wrong - remember, you can't judge people by their actions!)

 

 I guess you just meant not mocking or calling the Inquisitor stupid at that particular moment, right?

[WildOrchid]

Sera defenders:

 

snip pic

 

>implying the vibrators are any bad.

 

 

 

 

The Sera haters are quite a hilarious bunch.

[Heimdall]

Man, this thread is glorious.  Sera defenders are trying to claim Corypheus isn't really one of the legendary tainted magisters now.  And Flemeth is clearly just a demon.  A border omniscient demon who runs around helping heroes.  Totally makes sense and isn't retarded in the least!

It would be a lot easier to take you seriously if you didn't put words in everyone's mouths. Nobody has claimed that Corypheus isn't one of the tainted magister's, just that he's an unhinged lunatic and his account of what happened when he tried to enter the Fade should be treated with due skepticism. Nobody has claimed that Flemeth is a demon, just that Sera doesn't have a whole lot of reason to think otherwise when we don't properly know what Mythal is or what her motivations are.
 

They should look down on her.  She's less than any decent person.  If all elves were like her, I could see why they were kept as slaves.  She's clearly inferior.  If my dog was as dumb as Sera, I'd have it put to sleep.  (And don't say that's wrong - remember, you can't judge people by their actions!)
 
 I guess you just meant not mocking or calling the Inquisitor stupid at that particular moment, right?

Nice straw man. The Dalish look down on all other elve on principle for not following their traditions.

Yes, I was talking about that particular moment, that moment so many have used to call her an insensitive jerk when she isn't even addressing the Inquisitor at the time.

[Xilizhra]

Well, from what's been said in another thread, it's entirely possible that Sera is underage.

[WildOrchid]

Well, from what's been said in another thread, it's entirely possible that Sera is underage.

 

Oh boy, are you seriously think they'd add an underage member as a romance? I mean they've done some lame shite back then but this?

 

Xil, sometimes you make me laugh.

[Xilizhra]

Oh boy, are you seriously think they'd add an underage member as a romance? I mean they've done some lame shite back then but this?

 

Xil, sometimes you make me laugh.

'Twasn't my idea. I recommend you hie to our own thread for that.

[WildOrchid]

'Twasn't my idea. I recommend you hie to our own thread for that.

 

I read it. Still laughable as fook.

[Ennai and 54 others]

I know how it works. And that's rather the point. Isabella is completely irresponsible and only some personal relationship guilt tripping gets her to come back and fix her total screw ups.

Sera, on the other hand, is there to support the inquisition/stop the bad guys and make the world safe again whether she likes you or not. She may give you **** for being some pagan mage lover, but she doesn't let that keep her from trying to take down Coryphetits.

DA2 didn't have any central world shaking conflict to fix.There wasn't a demon army threatening to drive the economy to the ground.Ultimately seras decision to help was about self preservation (preservation of her way of life).

Isabelas choice was either to leave with the tome,or return and risk either death or brainwashing with qamek.Later in the comics we find out that is one of her worst fears (losing herself to the qun).


Normal people,especially bandits and thieves,are not heroes,and will think thrice before doing what she did.

Besides,Sera is quite irresponsible as well .lol.

[EmissaryofLies]

Isabela.

 

It's not even close; Isabela is better in every possible way.

 

Sera is a frumpy psychotic mess who's only purpose is to play the jester for my amusement.

[Nathair Nimheil]

They should look down on her.  She's less than any decent person.  If all elves were like her, I could see why they were kept as slaves.  She's clearly inferior.  If my dog was as dumb as Sera, I'd have it put to sleep.  (And don't say that's wrong - remember, you can't judge people by their actions!)

Truly, it is quite a compelling argument there. Such masterful character analysis as "She's inferior! She's dumb! She's inferior! I'd kill her! She deserves to be a slave!" is difficult to refute and demonstrates very well why it is Sera who is nasty and childish beyond tolerating.
 

I guess you just meant not mocking or calling the Inquisitor stupid at that particular moment, right?

Exactly. The accusation is that Sera is thoroughly vile because she mocks the Inquisitor at that particular, vulnerable moment and she doesn't. But if calling people stupid because of what they believe is evil and makes you such a bad person then maybe you want to stop calling your fellow posters here on the forum "retarded*".


*Actually, just stop using that word, period.

[KaiserShep]

Well, from what's been said in another thread, it's entirely possible that Sera is underage.

You know, the same could just as well be true for Merrill, but in any case, this is totally ridiculous. BioWare's never going to put an underage romance in their game.

[WarBaby2]

Underaged elves... ahm, yea, great topic!

 

Seriously, though, Isabela... I don't like the anarcho punk pixie vibe... although, both of them can be rather funny, at times.

[Vormaerin]

Normal people,especially bandits and thieves,are not heroes,and will think thrice before doing what she did.

 

You do remember that the assertion I objected to was that Isabella has the hero's back and Sera doesn't?  So pointing out that Isabella isn't heroic and is perfectly rational about running away and leaving you out to dry isn't exactly refuting my stance.

 

It remains the case that she lies to you and runs off and only maybe comes back.

[WildOrchid]

You do remember that the assertion I objected to was that Isabella has the hero's back and Sera doesn't?  So pointing out that Isabella isn't heroic and is perfectly rational about running away and leaving you out to dry isn't exactly refuting my stance.

 

It remains the case that she lies to you and runs off and only maybe comes back.

 

She only comes back if you are her friend or lover.

[Radgen1]

Sera isn't under age, but she is probably in the 18-25 range which makes her by far the youngest companion(not counting Cole who is a special case)

[connors3605]

I started off not liking sera at all then there were some moments during the game that completely changed my mind and now I really enjoy sera gotta like those roof cookies. But now I definitely like sera. But its a tie for me I enjoy sera and Isabella and would take both on my team

[Equalitas]

These are two people that has been in a bad environment from young age.

Sera growing up on the street alienage/Denerim and then the blight. I dont even want to understand what it was like for her. At least the city elf warden had a family.

Isabela forced marriage rebel joined some pirates. "Learned" how to like sex and use it to her advantage  

 

I liked conversation more with Isabela coz she approached everything very dismissive. And i can tolerate that. What i cannot tolerate is (and get sort of angry) talking to a angry little child that dont understand that their is consequences to your action. Something the PC is always thinking of. I really like that you can kick her out of Inquisition. But i would NEVER do that, coz i understand how her childhood have been and i just want her to be happy. You really need patience with her sort.

Sera wins by a longshot as a created character.