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[Dermain]

Australia now kills games too?

 

Is there anything that continent DOESN'T kill?

 

The giant ****** spiders...

 

 

To be fair, the myriad novels, motion pictures, television programs, comic books, music videos, pop and hip-hop songs, and advertisements that promote a destructive lifestyle as glamorous and attractive aren't being at all effected by this development. Nor will the removal of one video game have a significant effect on the positive portrayal of indecent behavior in media.

 

I was going to say his reply was likely sarcasm, but now I'm doubting that thought.

[Fawx9]

http://www.abc.net.a...iolence/5939184

 

Now its Kmart, the censorship from the radical left is real. They've managed to hurt games more than Jack ever could at this point. People need to wake up. 

[Red Panda]

Why?

Hateful things that promote hurting need to be stopped from encouraging more hurting.

 

Hurting hurts.

[A Crusty Knight Of Colour]

http://www.abc.net.a...iolence/5939184

 

Now its Kmart, the censorship from the radical left is real. They've managed to hurt games more than Jack ever could at this point. People need to wake up. 

 

"It's a game that encourages players to murder women for entertainment. The incentive is to commit sexual violence against women, then abuse or kill them to proceed or get 'health' points – and now Target are stocking it and promoting it for your Xmas stocking," the petition said.

"This misogynistic GTA V literally makes a game of bashing, killing and horrific violence against women."

 

Target general manager of corporate affairs Jim Cooper said the decision to stop selling the game was made following extensive community and customer concern.

"We've been speaking to many customers over recent days about the game, and there is a significant level of concern about the game's content," Mr Cooper said in a statement.

 

"We've also had customer feedback in support of us selling the game, and we respect their perspective on the issue.

 

"However, we feel the decision to stop selling GTA V is in line with the majority view of our customers."

 

A Kmart spokesman said: "Following a significant review of all content in Grand Theft Auto Games, Kmart has taken the decision to remove this product immediately.

 

"Kmart apologises for not being closer to the content of this game."

[Jeremiah12LGeek]

I guess I have a few thoughts:

 

- I'm pretty sure the bulk of the violence in every GTA game has been directed towards male characters and NPCs.

 

- I actually do feel that the Housers are pretty weak when it comes to their portrayal of women. There have been a few well-written female characters throughout GTA's history, but for the most part, they largely ignore the potential of including more significant and compelling women in their games.

 

- Related to my above point: Most of the male characters are under-written caricatures, as well, so it's less an issue of social politics than it is limited artistic ability when it comes to writing.

 

- Target Australia is a private corporation, so I'm less concerned than I would be if GTA had been banned by Blair's government.

 

- This will essentially balance itself out karmically. By doing this, Target will reduce its income, and increase the VG market share of its competitors. In the long run, as the numbers come in, the move will discourage private retailers from going the same route, and suffering the same fate. Target can take the hit, of course. It's not going to go bankrupt over a bad policy decision, especially given how long GTA V has been out, but a loss of even 6 figures worth of sales will probably cost a job or two in upper management. If GTA V for PC sells particularly well in Australia, it will probably become a fairly well-known example of a poorly thought out marketing decision.

[Seboist]

http://www.abc.net.a...iolence/5939184

 

Now its Kmart, the censorship from the radical left is real. They've managed to hurt games more than Jack ever could at this point. People need to wake up. 

 

To be fair to ol'Jack, his cause for concern was children's access to violent games, not some totalitarian demonization and marginalization of characters,themes,narratives and settings that don't promote some radical left agenda.

[SmilesJA]

To be fair to ol'Jack, his cause for concern was children's access to violent games, not some totalitarian demonization and marginalization of characters,themes,narratives and settings that don't promote some radical left agenda.

 

Jack was still the enemy though. Can you believe what Mcintosh is saying? https://twitter.com/radicalbytesThis guy is the next great comedian let me tell ya!

[Katiefrost]

Aimed at stupid people who love to start politically controversial, whiny threads.

[Fawx9]

To be fair to ol'Jack, his cause for concern was children's access to violent games, not some totalitarian demonization and marginalization of characters,themes,narratives and settings that don't promote some radical left agenda.

 

Oh I agree. His initial arguments were centered around regulation in terms of age restrictions. Even then he was hailed as a monster trying to destroy games. Now, when radicals are coming out of the word work demonizing games and theirs players, the media that drove Jack out is welcoming them with open arms. 

 

It's becoming insane at this point that anyone criticizing the hard line identity politics these feminist groups are using is automatically branded a sexist and denounced.  

[SmilesJA]

Oh I agree. His initial arguments were centered around regulation in terms of age restrictions. Even then he was hailed as a monster trying to destroy games. Now, when radicals are coming out of the word work demonizing games and theirs players, the media that drove Jack out is welcoming them with open arms. 

 

It's becoming insane at this point that anyone criticizing the hard line identity politics these feminist groups are using is automatically branded a sexist and denounced.  

 

This is the reason why I (tentatively) side with Gamergate, the insane amount of protection that certain people and groups get from the media is staggering. 

[slimgrin]

That's the magic of feminism. You don't get a choice anymore, it's a straight line to 'let's yank the game from retailers'.

[SlottsMachine]

This is the reason why I (tentatively) side with Gamergate, the insane amount of protection that certain people and groups get from the media is staggering. 

 

I prefer to just scoff at everyone. 

[Seboist]

Jack was still the enemy though. Can you believe what Mcintosh is saying? https://twitter.com/radicalbytesThis guy is the next great comedian let me tell ya!

 

Jack was rightfully told to eff off, now we need to do the same to his successors like Mcintosh,anita, etc.

 

RE: Mcintosh's hilarity, i love this vid full of pretentious rambling about..... something, while flinging his arms and acting like he's on something.

 

[Fidite Nemini]

Meh, it's largely a publicity stunt. Afaik GTA V is no more violent/abusive or whatever against women as its against any other demography depicted in the game. To say such a game is abusive against women is the same as accusing fire being a misogynistic element because it burns women. The game can be violent against everything, If people want to protest, do so against the violence and don't nitpick that it can be violent against something specific!

 

The only relevant thing GTA V brings to the table is it's new, it's hot, it's inherently controversial due to its game formula and as such a welcome ladder to climb onto the headlines for a couple weeks.

 

 

To reiterate: meh.

[SlottsMachine]

These games don't place much value on the lives of anyone considering the whole premise of the games is essentially the ability to commit crimes on a mass scale with no repercussions. Run people over, blow people away with rocket launchers, beat them to death with bats. Or torture them as is the case in GTAV it seems (I've never played it).

 

So if we suddenly have to place the value of one group's lives above the lives of others in a game where no lives have value, what is that saying?

 

Yeah, there was some pretty messed up **** in the game. They probably could have got the game banned because of those instances, but nah they decided to complain about a bunch of things that are not even in the game. 

[Fawx9]

Meh, it's largely a publicity stunt. Afaik GTA V is no more violent/abusive or whatever against women as it against any other demography depicted in the game. The only relevant thing GTA V brings to the table is it's new, it's hot, it's inherently controversial due to its game formula and as such a welcome ladder to climb onto the headlines for a couple weeks.

 

 

To reiterate: meh.

 

It's not just a publicity stunt. It's a blatant showing that radical groups will go at length to censor content they don't like. Gamers and the media fought Jack for simply wanting to restrict games. Now that a group steps up that is effectively censoring them we are supposed to just not care? 

[someguy1231]

Absolutely disgusting. My sympathies to any Aussie gamers disgusted by this. Looks like all those efforts to get an M-Rating for games released in Australia was for nought.

 

The fact this was done in the name of feminism is final proof to me that there's really no difference between extreme-left and extreme-right. Whether in the name religion or feminism, they're all just a bunch of self-righteous censors to me.

[frustratemyself]

Absolutely ridiculous. It's the type of thing that probably just encourages some of the nanny-state decisions made by the Australian Classifications Board with ratings.

 

I wish the lobby groups would bugger off and find a real problem.

[Inquisitor Recon]

Hateful things that promote hurting need to be stopped from encouraging more hurting.

 

Hurting hurts.

U avin a giggle ther m8?

[SlottsMachine]

  The funniest part (or saddest) is that they've gotten the game banned for reason that do not exist. 

[Liamv2]

Yes banning a game almost a year after release is going to have so much effect.