1. The mmo-style quest was there from dao.
Ridiculous claim. Maybe DA:O had a few fetch quests, but I could essentially count these on my two hands over a span of easily 80 hours including all DLCs and expansions. But what DA:O did in that regard is nowhere near to what they did in DA:I.
Lazy game development? Wat? Where?
It's code for "making a game that doesn't cater specifically to my needs". Calling any game dev lazy is so incredibly ludicrous that it borders on the criminally insane. And it's also incredibly insulting to people who spent months working 12-hour days 6 days a week (minimum) to ship games.
That said, great idea OP. I'm in. This game deserves GOTY more than any others for sure.
You pay 60$ for a product that takes years to make. Quit calling them lazy it's incredibly disrespectful and incognizant.
Yeah no, whats disrespectful is them telling us this game was going to be made for PC gamers which its clearly not. The controls alone leave absolutely no doubt thats its not. Argue it if you want but I see no facts to state otherwise. They made DA2 with PC controls why change it? Other than for consoles.
It's a software product in an incredibly competitive field with petulant, volatile, and facetious consumers.
It's a finished game with some holes that need fixing. Seriously...there are only a few significant bugs not hundreds like a beta product would.
Most of the bugs are purely superficial and/or annoying at worst.
You pay 60$ for a product that takes years to make. Quit calling them lazy it's incredibly disrespectful and incognizant.
Well said, on all three points. I'd have added "juvenile" in the first sentence, too.
That said, it should be noted that the majority of consumers aren't really like that... only those who frequent online forums (which are a tiny minority). The vast majority of consumers just enjoy the product (or move on if they don't).
You're conflating marketing with development. PR with technical. This is why sweeping assertions about peoples' character and motivations is both stupid and immature.Yeah no, whats disrespectful is them telling us this game was going to be made for PC gamers which its clearly not. The controls alone leave absolutely no doubt thats its not. Argue it if you want but I see no facts to state otherwise. They made DA2 with PC controls why change it? Other than for consoles.
Yeah no, whats disrespectful is them telling us this game was going to be made for PC gamers which its clearly not. The controls alone leave absolutely no doubt thats its not. Argue it if you want but I see no facts to state otherwise. They made DA2 with PC controls why change it? Other than for consoles.
The controls clearly work for PC, and it's disingenuous to say otherwise.
All the controls that are unique to PC function within the game. Keyboard quickslots? Check. Keyboard binding? Check. Mouse clicking? Check. Mouse wheel scrolling? Check. Double clicking to select? Check. Popups on MouseOver? Check. Mouse drag and drop? Check.
All these are things that bad console ports do NOT do. If the controls weren't working, we wouldn't have a different interface for KB/M or Controller. We'd have to use WASD to navigate menus, for example.
Take a look at Mass Effect 2 for what poor PC controls ACTUALLY means (in the menus, specifically).
What it DOESN'T mean is click to move or click to loot or auto-attack or all that jazz while in action mode. Those things don't work because they're not MEANT to work. Action mode isn't the DA2 or DAO 3rd person camera mode. Maybe the game tutorial or some such was not clear enough on the difference, mind you, but those things are solely a matter of L2P and entirely unrelated to PC control support.
It's not perfect, and there's a few bugs and omissions that will be fixed (walk toggle, Push To Talk in MP, refresh on popups), but saying the controls were not made for PC is flat out wrong.
You just don't like the action mode design and maybe the new tac cam, but let's not pretend this has ANYTHING to do with Bioware lying to PC gamers. They didn't: PC controls are fully supported.
Thank you for the info, now I can help the game lose.
DA:I got my vote for the...
The game definitely deserves it. 
Serza Greatly Disapproves, you little bosh'tets.
If you're gonna be that much of an ass.. just say that DAI is too ambitious for its own good.
Sounds better than calling people who spent 3 years of their lives pouring themselves into this game "lazy".
Heh... I wonder if you'd actually go up to the developers and call them lazy to their face. Pretty sure you'd get socked.
Go say that to all the customers who complained in the technical forum, 165+ pages of complains.
If Bioware did their job right their wouldn't be so much complaints, imo.
So before defending blindlessly Bioware look around you and see if they aren't people in pain first who just want to play the game.
You're not encouraging Bioware to do their job instead you encoure them to avoid taking reponsability when you try to silent other gamers like you're doing now!
Not a chance this side of hell. I would vote it to be GameOfTheHype.............and lies, but that is as much as I can offer, sorry.
Go say that to all the customers who complained in the technical forum, 165+ pages of complains.
If Bioware did their job right their wouldn't be so much complaints, imo.
So before defending blindlessly Bioware look around you and see if they aren't people in pain first who just want to play the game.
You're not encouraging Bioware to do their job instead you encoure them to avoid taking reponsability when you try to silent other gamers like you're doing now!
I wonder how many of the people who have technical difficulties (on PC) have systems that do not meet the requirement for this game. I know when I tried Assassin's Creed Unity with my older GPU, it didn't work. I could have complained to Ubi that their game is poop (to be honest, it is broken, but not the point here) but instead I bought a new GPU, a card that was actually supported by the game. Look and behold, the game started to work.
I'm not meaning any offense to anyone, but there has to be people who try to play this new game with older computers that cannot run it.
PC whingers are ruining this site. There are plenty of threads that are based around the problems that PC users are having for them to go a vent their spleen. I don't comment on those threads as I don't have it on PC and don't have the issues with the game they have.
The problem comes when somebody makes a thread saying how good the game is or how they would like to nominate it for GOTY. The PC whingers jump on every thread and try to destroy it because they hate the game or are having a horrible time so everybody should be.
Can't people who don't like the game leave one or two threads for those people who do? I love the game and want to share the emotion it brings with other people who feel the same but the PC Whingers wont let that happen.
Yesterday i would have agreed on GOTY, but the game breaking combat bug set in on my 2nd run and now it's almost unplayable for me. I had planned to do five runs with different characters, also just spent 17 hours looking for venatori tomes and still only have 2. I'm about ready to get GTAV for PS4 and just call it quits because this is ridiculous. It's just not worth the stress.
What's the bet i'll still give it a try tomorrow though and just hope it gets better?
Let's us all do our part and help DAI to win as many GOTY award as possible! Granted I never play some of the nominees and I heard some of them are really good (e.g. Dark Souls and Bayonetta) but this is my fav game of the year (well, 2nd fav, fav is Last of Us: Remastered).
DAI is currently being nominated for GOTY and RPG OTY @thegameawards! Let's hope it wins both. And let's do our part for DAI in those Reader's Choice Awards!
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Update if you know anymore.
Are we playing same game?...It needs patching ASAP and PC controls need improving to name a few issues,it's not a terrible game but far from game of the year IMHO,other RPG games like Divinity Sin are better in some ways then DA:I and more polished even on initial release.
Why are the haters coming in? u don't have to vote if u don't want to. there is no need to insult the game here. this is meant to be positive and i am inviting people who like the game (and wants it to be GOTY) to know about other such awards and to inform others if they know anymore. then the people who like it will pull their resources and vote. i will also be on a constant lookout for IGN and Gamespot Reader's Choice Awards.
So yah..
Haters back off!
PC whingers are ruining this site. There are plenty of threads that are based around the problems that PC users are having for them to go a vent their spleen. I don't comment on those threads as I don't have it on PC and don't have the issues with the game they have.
The problem comes when somebody makes a thread saying how good the game is or how they would like to nominate it for GOTY. The PC whingers jump on every thread and try to destroy it because they hate the game or are having a horrible time so everybody should be.
Can't people who don't like the game leave one or two threads for those people who do? I love the game and want to share the emotion it brings with other people who feel the same but the PC Whingers wont let that happen.
To be fair they have the right to bring issues up etc ,you may think it's whining but there are many real issues with DA:I on all formats,the first patch is not even out yet should tell you how much needs fixing in this game,I don't give a game 9/10 or 10/10 automatically because review sites do and it's Bioware game.
I give honest feedback and opinions even on games I'm a fan of like DA,it's far from game of the year and I stick by my opinion.
Why are the haters coming in? u don't have to vote if u don't want to. there is no need to insult the game here. this is meant to be positive and i am inviting people who like the game (and wants it to be GOTY) to know about other such awards and to inform others if they know anymore. then the people who like it will pull their resources and vote. i will also be on a constant lookout for IGN and Gamespot Reader's Choice Awards.
So yah..
Haters back off!
Just because you opened the thread doesn't mean you get to decide who is allowed to add his opinion and who is not.
I loved the game but I don't think it's GOTY material.
Bug's aside, I just feel they had too much space and not enough stuff to fill it. And the quests they did fill it with were very bland. A few were good. But not enough.
They were very ambitious with this game but i think they just fell short. It wasn't lazy, I just think they didn't get enough time.
I'm not so sure it deserves it.
It's a lazy console port, a buggy mess, and padded with low-quality filler content. The multiplayer is ****. The game is also missing a lot of very basic features, and combat is poorly balanced.
On the flip side, the characters and companion side quests are excellent, some of the open world side quests are actually interesting, and the main plot quests are solid, if a bit lacking.
I'd give it an 8/10. Not GOTY material.
Just because you opened the thread doesn't mean you get to decide who is allowed to add his opinion and who is not.
They forget we are all members here with the right to post as long as we follow forum guidelines,they just don't like ANY real negative feedback on DA:I.
I've also stated reasons why it's not game of the year IMHO,so hopefully they understand why.
I sometimes wonder have standards in games with regards to quality etc have dropped just like some gamers/reviewers that give 9/10 or 10/10 on games regardless of bugs/./controls etc...
For the record this is not a whine but feedback from playing the game,big difference.
Btw I don't hate the game but it's far from game of the year.
They forget we are all members here with the right to post as long as we follow forum guidelines,they just don't like ANY real negative feedback on DA:I.
I've also stated reasons why it's not game of the year IMHO,so hopefully they understand why.
I sometimes wonder have standards in games with regards to quality etc have dropped just like some gamers/reviewers that give 9/10 or 10/10 on games regardless of bugs/./controls etc...
For the record this is not a whine but feedback from playing the game,big difference.
Btw I don't hate the game but it's far from game of the year.
I don't mind negative feed back there are many negative threads and that's fine but trolling every thread that tries to celebrate the game is just being petty.
They forget we are all members here with the right to post as long as we follow forum guidelines,they just don't like ANY real negative feedback on DA:I.
This happens with both sides, unfortunately. I've had people try and ridicule me for enjoying the game. Some people are just too insecure in their opinions and don't like that other people think differently from them.
Anyway, personally this game is my GOTY, but I can see why others wouldn't think so.
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