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RiouHotaru

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Welp, it's now President's Day...and last night, after the hubub of discovering "ingestion" may be possible, I had to sit down and carefully consider what we discovered.  And while I hate to be a party-pooper, my analytical EDI-like skills have discovered a slight flaw in our plan.

Re: Dextro Aminos
The place where we found the section with the people analyzing the scientific portion of the "allergy" claim uncovered that in fact, dextro-amino acids have absolutely NO negative effect.  Even the proteins.  As it turns out, "dextro" is merely a fancy way of saying some of the chemicals are bonded on one side, rather than the other (and even this is an oversimplification), and that because our body doesn't use or need them, it simply flushes them from our system.  This was confirmed by a fellow biochemist.

So then, why does our respective foodstuffs and...bodily fluids potentially induce anaphylatic shock?  Could the Codex, Bioware, even Mordin be either lying/perpretrating an urban myth?  To be bluntly honest...no.  I doubt they'd claim that such a response was possible unless it actually had happened, and even if we assume said allergic response was rare, if that was the case, why mention it in the context that it was a common scientific fact.  Why would the bartender on Ilium warn us about the nuts in the red bowl...or tell the tale about the Krogan who drank 'liquified turian' (I don't even want to fathom what that means, or the implications)

My only assumption, is that the allergy does exist, but is NOT related specifically to dextro vs. levio amino acids.  The chemical make up of each species does determine what foods they can eat for nutritional purposes, but there's a wealth of other chemicals, elements and compounds that we aren't taking into consideration.  After all, we can only guess at why they bleed blue.  My theory, is that there's some other chemical, some other substance presence in their bodies and food that's related to their dextro-amino makeup, one that has the potential to induce an allergic response.  Now, of course, like any allergy, not everyone gets it, and not everyone has it to the same degree.  Certain concentrations (like food or alcohol) are lethal regardless of species or allergic reaction (the 'liquified turian' incident, the bartender at Dark Star Lounge...)  Whatever this chemical or substance is, it's present in things that are of a dextro-amino make.  This unknown chemical or combination of chemicals is responsible for the scientific basis of the 'allergy scare'

What does this mean?  Sure, Garrus might taste like liquid sugar...but it could still kill you.  Be careful ladies...;)
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SavageLycan

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@Jytra: Ha ha. That's a funny little comic there. Made me chuckle



@Prolefeed: One of the ideas I had for a Garrus fanfic was to do a film noir type story, in the first person, of him describing some of his past cases in C-Sec. I ended up beginning to write the equivalent of a 1970s renegade cop drama XD

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Here's a nice one:



http://makena.devian...Lovin-153533421

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Von Verrikan

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Because everyone should love the dark star bartender <3

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RiouHotaru wrote...

What does this mean?  Sure, Garrus might taste like liquid sugar...but it could still kill you.  Be careful ladies...;)
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I intend to be cautious, Doctor RiouHotaru, but Garrus is important to me. You're not going to scare me/us off.

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SavageLycan

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@Von Verrikan: YES. That bartender is bad ass.



Also, with how excited everyone is about this dextro-revelation, maybe we should just rename the whole thread "Liquid Sugar" ha ha.

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Von Verrikan wrote...
Female acceptance better damn make leaps and bounds after my shepard saves the galaxy more than once :/ And some males do have that hurdle:o If you're gay like in my case.. Well think about it :P Hell there isnt any mention of m/m anywhere in the entire universe :blush:


Not true. There's a super badass biotic in the second book who is homosexual, he kicks a whole lot of ass.

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Von Verrikan wrote...

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Humans have only been on the galactic stage a relatively short amount of time, 30 years or so I think?  That's not even half a life time by today's standards, given that humans live longer in the future it's even less.  A theory could be that female acceptance hasn't come that far, yet.  It is amusing to see that male's don't have that hurdle at all.  "What's this?  MOAR OPTIONS!?  WHICH ONE, WHICH ONE?!  Quarians are endangered, endangered means they need to breed, breeding is... YES!  TO THE QUARIANS WITH HASTE!"  


Female acceptance better damn make leaps and bounds after my shepard saves the galaxy more than once :/ And some males do have that hurdle:o If you're gay like in my case.. Well think about it :P Hell there isnt any mention of m/m anywhere in the entire universe :blush:


Ah, my apologies, I worded that a little incorrectly.  I didn't mean the galaxy hadn't accepted females as viable combatants or anything like that.  I meant maybe human females in the ME world haven't yet widely accepted the notion of cross-species relationships.  The snipet above was a joke to say that males wouldn't have that issue, exhibiting wide-eyed kid in a candy store reaction instead.

The lack of a homosexual encounter for males is something I'd rather not discuss, there's a part of me that values and respects a writers freedom over their subject matter and if they say "no" then case closed.  However, there's another part of me that sees the double standard here and thinks that there is something making some command decisions, with or without writer approval.  I also believe there's some serious potential wasted there and even in non sexual relations.  Like why are male sheps all bro's with Jacob, but not Garrus?  Ah, well, is what it is.

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RiouHotaru

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Von Verrikan wrote...

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Because everyone should love the dark star bartender <3

He is a rather handsome fellow, and quite amicble when it comes to conversation.  I do love his subtle shout-out to using bars as sources of information.

I almost think this thread should be Garrus (and Turian) Love and Adoration.  Since there's several of them we want to snog.  *coughLorikQ'incough*
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RiouHotaru

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Cerrydd wrote...

RiouHotaru wrote...

What does this mean?  Sure, Garrus might taste like liquid sugar...but it could still kill you.  Be careful ladies...;)
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I intend to be cautious, Doctor RiouHotaru, but Garrus is important to me. You're not going to scare me/us off.


Of course.  Hormones.  Regardless, come see me later.  May need analgesic.  Chafing.
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Prolefeed wrote...

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He's an alien Sam Spade. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sam_Spade

Humphrey Bogart, eat your heart out.


Bleh, Humphrey Bogart is no not-hot. His characters are, by way of their badassery and charm, but his face is meh.


Well, I don't find Garrus "hot" in the conventional sense either, that's Jacob's job.  But I prefer his personality and voice infinitely more than anyone else's. 

Like Bogart. ;)

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SavageLycan

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Ha ha. I just remembered this quote from Harvey Birdman. It seems perfectly fitting directed towards Garrus Vakarian:



"God your voice is sexy. Ha ha! Bi-curious..." -Phil Ken Sebben-

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Oooh man, his voice. One word: definitely. :wub::wub::wub::wub::wub:

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 WHEW  It's my morning thread catchup!

Aimo's comic:
I choked on my breakfast when I read "Eradyn Fan". FANTASTICO.

..."Liquid Sugar":lol:
It would be awesome, but I take absolutely everything Mordin says as in-game FACT. PERIOD.  Partly because I really don't want to believe that he's wrong about everything, but also because he was written by the writers, and they know what does and doesn't happen in their universe.  If they say there's a chance of allergic reaction, then there is.

Platform Catching during the finale:
 I always thought it had to do with weight.  I bring Garrus and Mordin with me everywhere, except my very first playthrough when I left Garrus behind to help hold the line (He's the BEST, OK,  I figured he did such a good job with the teams that I should just step back and let him work.  They needed him more than I did.)  

I took Grunt and Mordin.  Mordin fell, which I was glad for because that makes much more sense, but he also helped me up at the end.  Which made less sense.

Second time through, I took Grunt and Garrus, and seeing as Garrus is the lighter of the two, I caught him at the end, he helped me up later.  Life was complete...then the camera panned over Tali's dead body, and that pretty much ruined my whole damn day.  Apparently the entire group just lost their **** without BATMAN and THE TANK to protect them. The whole situation made me think it went down like this:

Shepard:  Garrus....and, ah....Grunt.
*Wails and screams from the rest of the party*
Miranda: You're leaving us without Dirty Harry and the Berserker? Sign our death warrants, why don't you?!
*General chaos. Jack screams and punches the ground, Jacob wails "OH THE HUMANITY!" and shakes his fists at the sky.  Mordin calmly lights himself on fire to save the Collectors the trouble of killing him*
Shepard: OK, OK, Jesus.  You can have Grunt. *Pauses to look at Mordin* And somebody get that fire out.

Anyway, then I reloaded and took Mordin and Garrus, and Mordin still fell.  Mordin's the lightest each time, and he always falls. 

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AngryP1xel

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siltsonata wrote...

Platform Catching during the finale:
 I always thought it had to do with weight.  I bring Garrus and Mordin with me everywhere, except my very first playthrough when I left Garrus behind to help hold the line (He's the BEST, OK,  I figured he did such a good job with the teams that I should just step back and let him work.  They needed him more than I did.)  


I don't think it has anything to do with weight.  I think it's just random.  Both times I beat it I used Thane and Garrus.  First playthrough I caught Thane, second playthrough I caught Garrus.

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My friend and I have pooled our data, and which squadmate you save is still up in the air; at first I thought LI overrrode anyone else, but then he saved someone else while Tali was in his party. So it seems random, rather than first-slot party member.

Only solid thing I have is that the party member who rescues you is never the one that you save (that is, Shepard catches party member A and is caught by party member B).


Actually, in a playthrough where I romanced Thane and not Garrus, Shep both caught Garrus and was caught by him. so.....dunno what that means. Maybe my 360 was refusing to accept Shep's choice to abstain from Garrus-lovin' even for one playtrhough lol.

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OK nevermind, I really should learn to keep reading before I post replies lol.

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aznsoisauce wrote...


 I like to think of Miranda's loyalty mission as Shepard's way of manipulating her...Ben Linus style.


lol, that is such an awesome way to look at it.  I'm just gonna apply that assumption for all the loyalty missions for characters I don't care for. And although my femShep generally tries to be nice to Miranda (has an easier time of making friends with her than Jack, at least) in the interests of harmony, it does really grind her gears every time Miranda tries to claim so much authority.  Garrus is my de facto #2, don't you understand?!

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I know I'm going out on a limb here, but due to the recent discovery and the fact that human females do have allergies to male fluid, would there ever be a problem with unprotected "Sparring"?



Also, I was wondering if there is a possibility of breeding? I know humans share a lot of common DNA with birds of Earth, I wonder if there are enough commonalities with Turians.



Then again, if it was possible, what would the hybrid child eat? Could it even survive in the womb while the mother eats her own food? Would the placenta protect it? A lot of human fetuses are protected from diseases and such by the mother's placenta.



I wonder what a mix breed would look like? Hurry someone draw it up for "the science".

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Gerse1 wrote...

enormousmoonboots wrote...

My friend and I have pooled our data, and which squadmate you save is still up in the air; at first I thought LI overrrode anyone else, but then he saved someone else while Tali was in his party. So it seems random, rather than first-slot party member.

Only solid thing I have is that the party member who rescues you is never the one that you save (that is, Shepard catches party member A and is caught by party member B).


Actually, in a playthrough where I romanced Thane and not Garrus, Shep both caught Garrus and was caught by him. so.....dunno what that means. Maybe my 360 was refusing to accept Shep's choice to abstain from Garrus-lovin' even for one playtrhough lol.


That's weird, when I romanced Garrus Shep caught Thane and was helped by him, so I guess if I want to catch garrus I have to romance Thane or something.

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I caught Garrus on my first playthrough.



It was really 'AHHH HOLY CRAP' yet romantic at the same time. (Esp. considering in my head-canon my Shepard and Garrus were briefly estranged for a short while. Seeing her rescue him at the end totally was worth it)

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The turian groundkeeper of the Presidium seemed very worried about human bacteria killing turians and quarians, but wouldn't that mean that even kissing Shepard could kill Garrus?

I'm no expert, so corrrect me if I'm wrong, but aren't there a lot of bacteria in the human mouth?

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The human anus has less harmful bacteria than the human mouth. Go figure.

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I dunno, I think Garrus has been around humans in close quarters enough at this point that if he were gonna get sick from bacteria he would have. Or he's been able to build up immunities. As for the allergic reactions...Mordin DOES say "*chance* of allergic reaction" right? So, like I said perhaps the best thing to do here is have Shep's next mission be to scour the galaxy for someone, anyone, who's already "experimented" and find out what their results were! you know, for science! Maybe Liara can take time off from hunting the Shadow Broker and devote her resources to a much more crucial kind of information =D

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cedardryad wrote...

The human anus has less harmful bacteria than the human mouth. Go figure.


Ohhhhhhhkay, I think we're about ripe for a topic change now :blink:

So, this:

Shephard: Is there anything I should know about Kelly?
Kelly: You have unread messages at your private terminal; Mordin wants to speak with you about the collectors research; and Garrus wants to plow you like fresh snow.
Shephard: Great. That will be al- Wait, what?