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[siltsonata]

OmbradelCerberos wrote...

The turian groundkeeper of the Presidium seemed very worried about human bacteria killing turians and quarians, but wouldn't that mean that even kissing Shepard could kill Garrus?
I'm no expert, so corrrect me if I'm wrong, but aren't there a lot of bacteria in the human mouth?

Open-mouth spit-swappin' kiss, probably.  But try as I might, I can't imagine how Garrus and Shepard can have a full on human-style kiss.    His lips just don't bend that way.  Doesn't mean that they can't kiss at all, just not that... vigorously.  I doubt it would be a problem.

[cedardryad]

Where there is a will there is a way.

Improvise.

[bushes289]

Why is it that everyone seems to think Turians have lips? They don't, essentially what they have is mouths with the lips cut off. You can tell because lips are normally a different colour than the rest of your skin and the texture of lips is alaways different from the rest of the skin. Turian mouths have the same skin and nothing is protruding at the opening, meaning that like snakes they have no lips.



This doesn't mean they can't kiss a human it just means that they don't have the extra sense of touch there that humans do, meaning a kiss on the lips will feel the same as a kiss on the cheek.

[Kim Shepard]

cedardryad wrote...

Also, I was wondering if there is a possibility of breeding? I know humans share a lot of common DNA with birds of Earth, I wonder if there are enough commonalities with Turians.

Then again, if it was possible, what would the hybrid child eat? Could it even survive in the womb while the mother eats her own food? Would the placenta protect it? A lot of human fetuses are protected from diseases and such by the mother's placenta.

I wonder what a mix breed would look like? Hurry someone draw it up for "the science".

I imagine that, if humans and turians could have a hybrid child, there would be a big risk that the combination of different chemicals and such in the baby's body might cause it to die, but there's also the chance that it won't have any effect at all. I think part of it would depend on what the baby inherits from each parent, although it could have a better chance if Mordin would make a test tube baby and alter its genes so that doesn't happen.

I can picture the human-turian hybrid child perfectly. My Shepard would think it's adorable, but several crew members would probably be horrified.

[siltsonata]

 Question. I keep meaning to ask ya'll this but my memory, she is not so good.

Is Garrus onboard the Normandy when she's attacked in the beginning of ME2? From the fanfic I've read some fans think he was and fewer think he wasn't.

I know Jacob says all of the aliens survived the attack, but he lists Tali and Liara, so that does count as just "aliens". To me it sounds like Garrus and Wrex had already left the crew, Wrex to Tuchanka and Garrus back to C-Sec/Spectre Training.

Also, I can't remember exactly, but when you ask TIM where Garrus is, doesn't he say something along the lines of "when he received word of your death", implying that he wasn't there to witness it?

I'm totally not asking because I want desperately to believe that if he were there, he'd be the one refusing to leave not Ashley /bitter

[Kim Shepard]

siltsonata wrote...

 Question. I keep meaning to ask ya'll this but my memory, she is not so good.

Is Garrus onboard the Normandy when she's attacked in the beginning of ME2? From the fanfic I've read some fans think he was and fewer think he wasn't.

I know Jacob says all of the aliens survived the attack, but he lists Tali and Liara, so that does count as just "aliens". To me it sounds like Garrus and Wrex had already left the crew, Wrex to Tuchanka and Garrus back to C-Sec/Spectre Training.

Also, I can't remember exactly, but when you ask TIM where Garrus is, doesn't he say something along the lines of "when he received word of your death", implying that he wasn't there to witness it?

I'm totally not asking because I want desperately to believe that if he were there, he'd be the one refusing to leave not Ashley /bitter

As far as I know, Garrus wasn't there. I'm pretty sure he did go right back to (in my case) Spectre training after ME1. The Illusive Man did make it sound like Garrus wasn't there too.

A scene where Garrus refused to leave Shepard behind would have been awesome. D: Sad, but  still awesome.

[cedardryad]

I wonder if a hybrid would look similar to an Asari, facially?

[siltsonata]

Kim Shepard wrote...

As far as I know, Garrus wasn't there. I'm pretty sure he did go right back to (in my case) Spectre training after ME1. The Illusive Man did make it sound like Garrus wasn't there too.

A scene where Garrus refused to leave Shepard behind would have been awesome. D: Sad, but  still awesome.

I was harboring a bit of a hope before I picked up the game that, if you didn't romance anyone from the first game, it would be Garrus or Tali refusing to leave, just to set up their later possible romances. Oh well. I see why they needed to do it with the human survivor, otherwise I probably wouldn't have cared at all when Ash showed up at Horizon.

[Kim Shepard]

@ cedardryad: Well, the way I imagined the hybrid's eyes (human-sized but with turian coloration), it almost resembles that "Embrace Eternity" thing. o_o;



@ siltsonata: I was sort of confused that Tali was still on the Normandy at all. I would have thought that she'd be in more of a hurry to return to the fleet if Shepard gave her the geth data for her pilgrimage.

[enormousmoonboots]

siltsonata wrote...
Platform Catching during the finale:
 I always thought it had to do with weight.  I bring Garrus and Mordin with me everywhere, except my very first playthrough when I left Garrus behind to help hold the line (He's the BEST, OK,  I figured he did such a good job with the teams that I should just step back and let him work.  They needed him more than I did.)  

No, I've seen people catch Grunt (and no way is anyone in the party lighter than him). Pretty hilarious, especially with Femshep. I guess all those Skin/Muscle/Bone Weaves did come in handy.

I've heard there's an invisible statistic governing if anyone dies during holding the line, governed by how many tank/powerful characters you leave there + loyalty; 'weak' characters like Mordin and Jack have the highest chance of dying if you fall short of whatever that invisible number is.

I've taken Grunt and Garrus, and had everyone live, though, so...*shrug*

[Von Verrikan]

RiouHotaru wrote...

Welp, it's now President's Day...and last night, after the hubub of discovering "ingestion" may be possible, I had to sit down and carefully consider what we discovered.  And while I hate to be a party-pooper, my analytical EDI-like skills have discovered a slight flaw in our plan.

Re: Dextro Aminos
The place where we found the section with the people analyzing the scientific portion of the "allergy" claim uncovered that in fact, dextro-amino acids have absolutely NO negative effect.  Even the proteins.  As it turns out, "dextro" is merely a fancy way of saying some of the chemicals are bonded on one side, rather than the other (and even this is an oversimplification), and that because our body doesn't use or need them, it simply flushes them from our system.  This was confirmed by a fellow biochemist.

So then, why does our respective foodstuffs and...bodily fluids potentially induce anaphylatic shock?  Could the Codex, Bioware, even Mordin be either lying/perpretrating an urban myth?  To be bluntly honest...no.  I doubt they'd claim that such a response was possible unless it actually had happened, and even if we assume said allergic response was rare, if that was the case, why mention it in the context that it was a common scientific fact.  Why would the bartender on Ilium warn us about the nuts in the red bowl...or tell the tale about the Krogan who drank 'liquified turian' (I don't even want to fathom what that means, or the implications)

My only assumption, is that the allergy does exist, but is NOT related specifically to dextro vs. levio amino acids.  The chemical make up of each species does determine what foods they can eat for nutritional purposes, but there's a wealth of other chemicals, elements and compounds that we aren't taking into consideration.  After all, we can only guess at why they bleed blue.  My theory, is that there's some other chemical, some other substance presence in their bodies and food that's related to their dextro-amino makeup, one that has the potential to induce an allergic response.  Now, of course, like any allergy, not everyone gets it, and not everyone has it to the same degree.  Certain concentrations (like food or alcohol) are lethal regardless of species or allergic reaction (the 'liquified turian' incident, the bartender at Dark Star Lounge...)  Whatever this chemical or substance is, it's present in things that are of a dextro-amino make.  This unknown chemical or combination of chemicals is responsible for the scientific basis of the 'allergy scare'

What does this mean?  Sure, Garrus might taste like liquid sugar...but it could still kill you.  Be careful ladies...

This is something everyone needs to consider! Frankly it should go in the OP 

[AgentMulder5]

I don't think there could ever be a Turian/Human hybrid child. Dextro-Amino junk in a non-Dextro trunk would probably do one of two things.



1.) Nothing

2.) React like matter/anti-matter, where both are neutralized.

[RiouHotaru]

DrathanGervaise wrote...

AgentMulder5 wrote...

I don't think there could ever be a Turian/Human hybrid child. Dextro-Amino junk in a non-Dextro trunk would probably do one of two things.

1.) Nothing
2.) React like matter/anti-matter, where both are neutralized.

That and the child would be one ugly son of a ****.

No offence to Garrus of course.

Well hell, Garrus was always ugly, just slap some face-paint on the kid and no one will know the difference!

[bushes289]

I think Garrus being on the normandy when it's destroyed depends on if you made him renegade or paragon. I distinctly remember him saying that after the destruction of the normandy he went back to C-sec. I suppose I could be wrong but I was under the impresson that everyone was still there.

[enormousmoonboots]

I'm pretty sure he's not on the Normandy; you can even see Chakwas vaulting into an escape pod, but I couldn't find any of the aliens (though I heard you see Liara if you romanced her?).



And I thought the destruction of the Normandy + Alliance/Council reaction was what made him ragequit C-Sec/Spectre training? So Endgame -> Leaves ship -> Collector attack -> Ragequit to Omega

[SavageLycan]

AgentMulder5 wrote...

Dextro-Amino junk in a non-Dextro trunk

You win. All of it.

[siltsonata]

enormousmoonboots wrote...

I'm pretty sure he's not on the Normandy; you can even see Chakwas vaulting into an escape pod, but I couldn't find any of the aliens (though I heard you see Liara if you romanced her?).

And I thought the destruction of the Normandy + Alliance/Council reaction was what made him ragequit C-Sec/Spectre training? So Endgame -> Leaves ship -> Collector attack -> Ragequit to Omega

Yeah, that's what I'd like to accept as canon.  Makes more sense with both what we've been given and Garrus's character. Basically "No one's gonna do anything about this? Well --ck Ya'll AND THIS POPSICLE STAND, I'm gonna go play Batman."

[Ms Cherissa]

squidbunny wrote...

Wow. More great screens!

I finally had time to start on a fanart, myself; just barely started roughing out values.  You can tell how relatively riveted to the background I was.

That is exquisite. I'm always fond of black and white or grayscale, it's so underrated.

[Ms Cherissa]

AgentMulder5 wrote...
I don't think there could ever be a Turian/Human hybrid child. Dextro-Amino junk in a non-Dextro trunk would probably do one of two things.

I'm still trying to figure out the fascination some fans seem to have with the notion of FemShep bearing Garrus's offspring. Hello! Career military dame here, baddest of the bad who is saving the universe. Who is romantically linked to Batman.

Neither is really the foundation for quiet, domestic bliss.

Keep in mind I am also child-free by choice, and every time one of my friends or family members has asked me when my husband and I plan to spawn 'because it's so fulfulling to rear children', I quote Giles at them. "Do you want me to answer that (ridiculous question), or shall I just glare?"

So maybe I'm projecting, but I really get the notion that if FemShep wanted to spawn her very own little walking bundles of bacteria, she'd have done so with a human prior to the events of ME1.

[Ms Cherissa]

Meta Ray Mek wrote...

I don't question. I just nod my head and move on.

*Nods* I think you have the right idea.  I try not to be disrespectful of what floats other people's boats, but I find it easier to greet their ideas with enthusiasm if I 'get' it.  Even if it's not my thing.

Anyway. I hope I'm not putting Von on the spot but it seems he and I are going to be working on the costuming over the course of the year. I guess we'll keep you all posted.

[ThatDancingTurian]

Is anyone else having issues seeing page 129? Sometimes I load and there's fifteen or so posts on it, other times it just doesn't load the page at all and pretends the thread stops at 128. ._.

[Ms Cherissa]

Aris Ravenstar wrote...

Is anyone else having issues seeing page 129? Sometimes I load and there's fifteen or so posts on it, other times it just doesn't load the page at all and pretends the thread stops at 128. ._.

Same. I can only assume the internetz are telling me I should go do something else for a while.  Silly internetz.

[Von Verrikan]

Ms Cherissa wrote...

AgentMulder5 wrote...
I don't think there could ever be a Turian/Human hybrid child. Dextro-Amino junk in a non-Dextro trunk would probably do one of two things.

I'm still trying to figure out the fascination some fans seem to have with the notion of FemShep bearing Garrus's offspring. Hello! Career military dame here, baddest of the bad who is saving the universe. Who is romantically linked to Batman.

Neither is really the foundation for quiet, domestic bliss.

Keep in mind I am also child-free by choice, and every time one of my friends or family members has asked me when my husband and I plan to spawn 'because it's so fulfulling to rear children', I quote Giles at them. "Do you want me to answer that (ridiculous question), or shall I just glare?"

So maybe I'm projecting, but I really get the notion that if FemShep wanted to spawn her very own little walking bundles of bacteria, she'd have done so with a human prior to the events of ME1.