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Ms Cherissa wrote...

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I don't question. I just nod my head and move on.


*Nods* I think you have the right idea.  I try not to be disrespectful of what floats other people's boats, but I find it easier to greet their ideas with enthusiasm if I 'get' it.  Even if it's not my thing.


I'd prefer if people kept their mouths shut either way.

I've been increasingly having to put 'Don't like it, then tough ******' over on DA these days. Guess that might be my ever growing apathy with the fandom.

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Ms Cherissa wrote...

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I don't think there could ever be a Turian/Human hybrid child. Dextro-Amino junk in a non-Dextro trunk would probably do one of two things.


I'm still trying to figure out the fascination some fans seem to have with the notion of FemShep bearing Garrus's offspring. Hello! Career military dame here, baddest of the bad who is saving the universe. Who is romantically linked to Batman.

Neither is really the foundation for quiet, domestic bliss.

Keep in mind I am also child-free by choice, and every time one of my friends or family members has asked me when my husband and I plan to spawn 'because it's so fulfulling to rear children', I quote Giles at them. "Do you want me to answer that (ridiculous question), or shall I just glare?"

So maybe I'm projecting, but I really get the notion that if FemShep wanted to spawn her very own little walking bundles of bacteria, she'd have done so with a human prior to the events of ME1.

Well, I'm not a girl, so I wouldn't know about the fascination with having kids would come from...but I imagine it's a Garrus thing really.  I mean, h'es a sexy, witty, badass space-raptor vigilante.  Maybe that pushes all the right buttons for some ladies? XD
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Kim Shepard wrote...

Thanks for posting the video. :) Now that I've watched this, it'll be hard for some of my Shepards to destroy the base because of all those compliments from the Illusive Man. xD

One question: I read somewhere that the second squadmate Shepard chooses for the final battle will be the one she saves from falling off the platform. Is there any truth to that?

I'm not 100% sure but i think during my first playthrough it was Garrus who was about to fall off, while on second playthrough i did to make the video  ( ) it was Tali for a change, even though i'm fairly sure i picked them in the same order in both cases. Could be remembering it wrong, though. So as it is i'm inclined to think this is random, just like it seems random which person you check on first after the cut -- sometimes it's the same person you just rescued, sometimes it's the other one. (though if there was something more sophisticated there, like checking first on your LI if they're present, that'd be nice)

Also, that thing someone said about the person who you save never pulling Shepard up in the end, it doesn't seem to be true -- you can see it even in this linked video, i had Tali rescue my Shepard in the end after she was saved. Made for pretty nice symmetry.

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siltsonata wrote...

..."Liquid Sugar":lol:
It would be awesome, but I take absolutely everything Mordin says as in-game FACT. PERIOD.  Partly because I really don't want to believe that he's wrong about everything, but also because he was written by the writers, and they know what does and doesn't happen in their universe.  If they say there's a chance of allergic reaction, then there is.


See there's a problem with this.  Why, you might ask?  It's because the writers aren't perfect, not near it actually.  The last couple of pages in this very thread are a perfect example.  Look at all the Garrus + bacteria = whatever nonsense.  And is it any wonder?  It's noone's fault that's how they think, the game tells you that's how it is.  However, if you romance Tali she tells you that dextro-dna's don't get the sickness(small pox in her example) they just get an allergic reaction.  When you read this you're like WTF?  Truth be told, that's about what would happen and even then it would be rare, probably need a high-complexity disease/substance, and any number of other factors.  This contradicts some of the stuff you hear in other places in the game.  So which is it?  Who knows?  It's not the writers though, they shoehorn in stuff with all the subtlety of a rhino trying to fit in a mouse hole.  The council's action and behavior being a perfect example.  That's probably a discussion for another topic though, so I'll leave it with this:  "Don't trust everything you see/hear."

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Ms Cherissa wrote...

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I don't think there could ever be a Turian/Human hybrid child. Dextro-Amino junk in a non-Dextro trunk would probably do one of two things.


I'm still trying to figure out the fascination some fans seem to have with the notion of FemShep bearing Garrus's offspring. Hello! Career military dame here, baddest of the bad who is saving the universe. Who is romantically linked to Batman.

Neither is really the foundation for quiet, domestic bliss.

Keep in mind I am also child-free by choice, and every time one of my friends or family members has asked me when my husband and I plan to spawn 'because it's so fulfulling to rear children', I quote Giles at them. "Do you want me to answer that (ridiculous question), or shall I just glare?"

So maybe I'm projecting, but I really get the notion that if FemShep wanted to spawn her very own little walking bundles of bacteria, she'd have done so with a human prior to the events of ME1.


I think daydreaming of children and daydreaming about the man you want just go hand in hand for a lot of women.  Or they care about their femShep and want her to have a fulfilling life, which to some women involves children.  I understand there are many such as yourself who are fine not having them, I'm just saying, that's probably where the fascination comes from.

Plus, I don't think it's too unreasonable to pretend that femShep might still eventually have children.  For one thing humans live much longer in ME.  I haven't read any codex entries addressing fertility, but one could assume medical advances have extended childbearing years along with lifespan. (in fact, I think one of the novels specifically describes some female characters as looking 10-20 years younger than they are, thanks to gene therapy or some other sort of half-assed sci-fi type explanation).
So Shep would have plenty of time to have a military career and then settle down in her 40s or later.  Maybe by that time she'd have her hardnosed, wanderlust years all worked out of her.  Plus, if she succeeds in actually saving the galaxy, what left is there to do anyway? (rhetorical question but you get my meaning). She may as well quit while she's on top.  Like an athlete that's broken a world record, or Sam going back the Shire to raise a family after his big adventure with Frodo and helping to destroy the ring :).

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OmbradelCerberos wrote...

The turian groundkeeper of the Presidium seemed very worried about human bacteria killing turians and quarians, but wouldn't that mean that even kissing Shepard could kill Garrus?
I'm no expert, so corrrect me if I'm wrong, but aren't there a lot of bacteria in the human mouth?


I have a great deal of difficulty in imagining Shepard kissing (as in mouth to mouth contact) Garrus. Turian facial design doesn't really accomodate it, what with the sharp teeth and no lips. Hence why I squee over the headbump so much.

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Also, regarding inter-species hybrid children, it's not as scientifically impossible as it might seem.  Scientists on earth have already made "chimeras" of various species in labs,  (the only ones I know of grown past the embryo stage were sheep-goat, which are genetically quite similar to begin with, but then the science is also very young.), including some that contain human genes.

http://news.national...5_chimeras.html

Interesting reading for its own sake, I post it here merely to point out that in the ME universe of the future, it's not inconceivable that scientists could find a way to help interspecies couples have children. 

I agree that a child of Shep and Garrus would likely be one ugly little booger though, lol. ;)

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Gerse1 wrote...
 I'm just saying, that's probably where the fascination comes from.

Plus, if she succeeds in actually saving the galaxy, what left is there to do anyway? (rhetorical question but you get my meaning). She may as well quit while she's on top.  Like an athlete that's broken a world record, or Sam going back the Shire to raise a family after his big adventure with Frodo and helping to destroy the ring :).


Ah, hm. Something to think about, re: motherhood, I suppose.

Oh, I'm sure there's something out there bigger and badder than the Reapers. I mean, we have no idea why they were doing this cycle of cultivation and harvest - what is a Reaper afraid of (besides Shepard)?

In fairness, Sam isn't the big damn hero - oh, I appreciate him for his everyman (everyhobbit?) state of being, and it makes him that much more heroic in the senses that I most appreciate - but Frodo, Aragorn and Gandalf are the big damn heroes who have auras all full of 'swirling destiny'.  So for Sam to be able to go live a life after all is said and done is awesome, but it's kinda like Dr. Chakwas going home to finish her life. Sure, she saw and did most of the same stuff as Shep and squad mates, but she's normal at her core. The squadmates were all exceptional in some way or other, even Ashley and Kaidan who were as close to normal as possible - Ash was descended from 'Benedict Arnold' and Kaidan was one of the few successful L2, who had killed his instructor (admittedly in self-defense). These are story marks of greatness. We're back to 'swirling destiny'.

It'll be interesting to see where ME3 takes it and closes it. A month ago I was all hyped cuz ME2 was about to be released. Now I'm oddly a little sad, like when I'm in the last quarter of a fantastic book. I am enjoying it, and I know it is the endings that give stories their meanings, but I will be sad to turn that final page.

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Garrus (badass)+Shepard(badass)=Badass kid fact->
check here th09.deviantart.net/fs7/300W/i/2005/205/6/1/Pet_Alien_by_kilroyart.jpg if you want to find out look of Badass kid ... Mommy Shepard and Father Vakarian are so proud :')
Let's start with giving names to their uber hybrid child! ;D
Joke aside hehe ;)
Uh I just found this, well maybe you already saw this  aimo.deviantart.com/art/ME2-Aliens-in-Love-149196637
I was hoping for some kind of conversation like that  in game but <_< nothing... Bioware hire this woman! ffs!!!!
Why Garrus never never bring thing about your ex relationship grrr...Ah I guess Me3 :( long waiting...
Damn I can't get one thing out from my head about Aimo "Reach and Flexibility" comic...haha Eradyn aka Conrad Verner daughter xD lol? :D joking joking joking :D! I know she didn't mean that :D but when I hear word "fan"+"Shepard" it always reminds me on him =].
@ ending <_< I had Thane and Garrus for end. I romanced Garrus and I was so happy that I will see scene of saving Garrus but I was saving Thane in the end : ))) what the heck?! Maybe because, when I pick party members I always pick Garrus first in rooster or? Replaying...

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 Hi there, fellow turian-lovers! 

It's been about 4 days of reading for me to catch up with the thread, but I must say that it's been worthwhile, to the extent of laughing to death of these crazy ideas of yours! awesome! Lovely pics, great stories and insights, it really helped to see I wasn't the only one "reading between the lines". 

Soo... I had to spread the Garrus-love. 

I recall telling a friend of mine about Garrus when ME1 came out, and trying to explain to her how awesome the character was and how much imagination I had to put into the story to see it as an unrequited love of some sorts. She was all 'seems nice, but... huh, not my type'.

Then ME2 came out. Good God. I needed her to play. In fact, I put her right behind the computer for a couple of hours, lead her to the Archangel recruitment mission, and came back later on to see how it went.

My friend: OMFG! Fffff.. That was the most badass and sexy thing I've seen since Leon Kennedy headshooting zombies. It's all clear to me now. Grr... I just want him to tell me to lean on the table with that soft voice of his *insert vicious grin*
Me: Welcome to the club. 


Renegade Shepards:

Most of you have chosen the 'right' path of doing things or is it just me? I found it most attractive to line up with Garrus doing "not-by-the-book" actions. He threatening Harkin and shooting him was not terrifying at all for me -in fact, I found it sickly appealing :wub:... Huh, am I twisted? =/

Let me present my case: I had encouraged him in ME1 to do whatever necessary to get things done, as I think myself that paperwork and authorities are too crippling when it comes to do major goods. Shepard didn't accomplish her mission by abiding the law, even when you're a Paragon. She always had to delve into subterfuges. A guy like Garrus, concerned with justice and saving lives, could not by any chance become Saren, he would just continue "vigilanteing" in various degrees, which I found great. Gangs and mercenaries aren't innocent people, he was doing the right thing although operating on the fringes of the law. A guy like him couldn't/shouldn't (imo, and just the way I see it, you know, every one has his/her "canon-Garrus") apply for a bureaucratic work in C-Sec, as he used to. Some people need killing, just as Harkin did, and Sidonis, but that's another point that has to be discussed further.

On the other hand, I understand Sidonis is more to him than a mere despicable killer. This former team member betrayed Garrus' unit, but he acknowledges it and feels truly repentant. It's not the same as if he killed them on purpose and out of anger or rage or whatever, he was forced into it. Some people need killing, true -I still support that-, but it doesn't apply to most of the sceneries in which somebody commits a terrible mistake. Myself, I would spare him, now that I see it that way (thanks to you, guys =) ). Garrus would too, with a bit of help from Shepard, and became in peace with himself. My only concern is that he'll go *all* Paragon after that, being myself quite a fan of pissing off bad guys and scaring people that deserve it. I'd go all good-bad cops with the poor fellow that came across our way.

Shepard: You choose *gently grabbing the merc's shoulder*, either you tell us what we need to know, or this big scarred turian with a rifle will blow your head off.
Garrus: *says nothing. Looks cool and menacing while leaning on a nearby wall, slightly showing his fangs*
Random Merc: *stares at both of them in despair*
Shepard: Now, let's be on good terms and hand over the intel, alright?
Garrus: Commander, maybe he will be more enthusiastic if I shoot him somewhere dispensable. Your call.
Merc: W-wait! I'll talk!



Sorry for the wall of text. I have many ideas that I would like to share, and I think this is a hell of a nice community, I'm truly amazed by the level of kindness and respect it has reached. It's all Garrus' fault! =)


PS: I'm not English, excuse me for any mistakes I might have made :/

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Ms Cherissa wrote...

Gerse1 wrote...
 I'm just saying, that's probably where the fascination comes from.

Plus, if she succeeds in actually saving the galaxy, what left is there to do anyway? (rhetorical question but you get my meaning). She may as well quit while she's on top.  Like an athlete that's broken a world record, or Sam going back the Shire to raise a family after his big adventure with Frodo and helping to destroy the ring :).


Ah, hm. Something to think about, re: motherhood, I suppose.

Oh, I'm sure there's something out there bigger and badder than the Reapers. I mean, we have no idea why they were doing this cycle of cultivation and harvest - what is a Reaper afraid of (besides Shepard)?

In fairness, Sam isn't the big damn hero - oh, I appreciate him for his everyman (everyhobbit?) state of being, and it makes him that much more heroic in the senses that I most appreciate - but Frodo, Aragorn and Gandalf are the big damn heroes who have auras all full of 'swirling destiny'.  So for Sam to be able to go live a life after all is said and done is awesome, but it's kinda like Dr. Chakwas going home to finish her life. Sure, she saw and did most of the same stuff as Shep and squad mates, but she's normal at her core. The squadmates were all exceptional in some way or other, even Ashley and Kaidan who were as close to normal as possible - Ash was descended from 'Benedict Arnold' and Kaidan was one of the few successful L2, who had killed his instructor (admittedly in self-defense). These are story marks of greatness. We're back to 'swirling destiny'.

It'll be interesting to see where ME3 takes it and closes it. A month ago I was all hyped cuz ME2 was about to be released. Now I'm oddly a little sad, like when I'm in the last quarter of a fantastic book. I am enjoying it, and I know it is the endings that give stories their meanings, but I will be sad to turn that final page.


Did someone say Aragorn?? SQUEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!! :wub::wub::wub::wub:

Love that man. Love him.

Also, I agree. Big Damn Heroes don't get peaceful endings of domestic bliss. Just doesn't happen. She could possibly raise a kid or two while working as a cop or honorable politician on the Citadel, though. Still saving the galaxy every day, just on a slightly smaller scale.

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tmp7704 wrote...

Kim Shepard wrote...

Thanks for posting the video. :) Now that I've watched this, it'll be hard for some of my Shepards to destroy the base because of all those compliments from the Illusive Man. xD

One question: I read somewhere that the second squadmate Shepard chooses for the final battle will be the one she saves from falling off the platform. Is there any truth to that?

I'm not 100% sure but i think during my first playthrough it was Garrus who was about to fall off, while on second playthrough i did to make the video  ( ) it was Tali for a change, even though i'm fairly sure i picked them in the same order in both cases. Could be remembering it wrong, though. So as it is i'm inclined to think this is random, just like it seems random which person you check on first after the cut -- sometimes it's the same person you just rescued, sometimes it's the other one. (though if there was something more sophisticated there, like checking first on your LI if they're present, that'd be nice)

Also, that thing someone said about the person who you save never pulling Shepard up in the end, it doesn't seem to be true -- you can see it even in this linked video, i had Tali rescue my Shepard in the end after she was saved. Made for pretty nice symmetry.


Mordin is the one my Shepard saved from the platform on my first play through and Mordin in turn helped my Shepard up at the end, so yeah, that doesn't hold up so much. I might add I was kind of disappointed that it was Mordin both times and Garrus, who was my other party member, never did anything. No love man, no love...

When I watched my brother play though, I think he saved Thane from the platform and Grunt helped him up at the end, so I'm thinking it has to be random. 

But anyway, a lot of women seem to have a, uh, preoccupation with having children? It's only natural, considering reproduction is one of the strongest instincts we have, but I've never been very driven towards it. I recognize the allure because I'm female and I'm suppose to, but on a personal level I don't feel like going there. Mostly because I think there's more for me to do in life than procreate, but that's just me.

Everyone's Shepard is going to different slightly from one person to the next - my Shepard isn't settling down to have kids. She's rockin' the Universe, preferably with Garrus as her right hand man.  

That being said, it would be totally awesome if they adopted kids. A turian and a human child both - I could get behind that. Too many kids out there that don't get a fair chance at life. 


*EDIT - On the other hand, my Shepard grew up as a farmer so I could foresee her settling down somewhere remote in her later years and relaxing. Nothing wrong with that. 

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Xalena wrote...

Why Garrus never never bring thing about your ex relationship grrr...Ah I guess Me3 :( long waiting...

Well, to be fair, some people didn't romance anyone (like me, at least in my Garrus playthrough. I didn't want him to think he was second choice.. xD). And maybe he felt it would be rude to bring it up what with the Horizon situation. Too many variables.

@Milady495a: Welcome! And yay for converting people to Garrus fandom! All it takes is a first-hand experience to get how awesome Garrus is. He's just too awesome to not like. ;D

The Renegade/Paragon thing comes down to personal preference, really. I don't think killing Sidonis would turn Garrus into Saren, because Saren had a lot of other things going wrong for him besides a skewed sense of right and wrong. I was more worried Garrus would become some kind of thug rather than a megalomaniac like Saren. It's a slippery slope from 'this person deserves to die' to 'who doesn't?'. It was undeniable to Paragons that the issue with Sidonis was changing him, but it's hard to see if you're Renegade and have let him skirt that path the whole time. It really is a much more important mission for Paragons than Renegades, unfortunately.

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Prolefeed wrote...
Did someone say Aragorn?? SQUEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!! :wub::wub::wub::wub:

Love that man. Love him.

Also, I agree. Big Damn Heroes don't get peaceful endings of domestic bliss. Just doesn't happen. She could possibly raise a kid or two while working as a cop or honorable politician on the Citadel, though. Still saving the galaxy every day, just on a slightly smaller scale.


Ah HA! So THAT's why my eardrums burst all the way over here on Long Island!  I should have recognized a fansquee right off the bat! :lol:

Huh, like Leia as parent/spouse/Very Important Galactic Persona really? Makes a kind of sense. Though given the basic personalities of both Garrus and Shepard if you take it as Renegade-laced Paragon, I could see them adopting Batarian war orphans.

EDIT: And welcome aboard, MiLady495a. I hope I got that right. It's a great thread to hang out in, it has that comfy couch feel.

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Ms Cherissa wrote...

Huh, like Leia as parent/spouse/Very Important Galactic Persona really? Makes a kind of sense. Though given the basic personalities of both Garrus and Shepard if you take it as Renegade-laced Paragon, I could see them adopting Batarian war orphans.


Domestic Garrus and Shepard?  Now I'm imagining Garrus falling asleep on the couch and waking up to his daughter having painted his talons pink.

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Ack, thirty odd pages of catch up. I can't do it, I'm afraid, but I am interested in that bit about catching Garrus at the final battle. I tried to set this up intentionally by rotating Garrus in both spots on my squad and both times I caught Grunt instead of him. The sight of my skinny character catching a full-grown male krogan with one hand was pretty comical.

Also, I know I must be in the minority here, but I am violently opposed to even the thought of hybrid kids. The Garrus romance can really skirt into Mary Sue/bad fanfic territory if the devs let it. It's arguably a little bit that way anyway. I don't think they intended to do it from the beginning. They are just catering to fans, but I want them to do so responsibly in a way that makes sense for their universe and for the character. This is also why I'm not crazy about the idea of a "space wedding" or any kind of formalized long-term commitment with Garrus (and most of the other LIs.) I just don't think it's in character for him. Frankly, I even think the phrase "I love you" would be a little much for Garrus. I don't think he's cold or anything. I just don't think he's sentimental. He's not like Thane whose going to break down and really show you some softer side. "I want something to go right. Just once..." That's about as soft as I ever want Garrus to get. He's badass dipped in awesome sauce. Dorky and nervous on occasion I can buy a little, but mushy and sentimental...I couldn't buy it.

As for Garrus not mentioning the past LI if you cheated...I just wish there was all around more acknowledgement of your LI choice by other squaddies.  I guess DAO spoiled me in this capacity.  I love how nuanced the response to your LI choice was in that game.

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I always imagine my Shepard dying on some big mission twenty years or so down the road. Going out in a blaze of glory, if you will.

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What do I imagine my Shephard doing in the future?



"I'm Commander Shephard, and this is my favorite term-life insurance on the Citadel"



As for Garrus, I don't know what he'd be doing. But oh yes, there will be statues and made for extranet movies.

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I'm thinking about heading to I-Con this year (March 26-28, Long Island, NY, USA) - anyone else thinking of going? My household and I might be able to put up a few people who aren't allergic to cats, since we're just a stone's throw from the site. It'd be fun to meet people in person.

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Ms Cherissa wrote...

AgentMulder5 wrote...
I don't think there could ever be a Turian/Human hybrid child. Dextro-Amino junk in a non-Dextro trunk would probably do one of two things.


I'm still trying to figure out the fascination some fans seem to have with the notion of FemShep bearing Garrus's offspring. Hello! Career military dame here, baddest of the bad who is saving the universe. Who is romantically linked to Batman.

Neither is really the foundation for quiet, domestic bliss.

Keep in mind I am also child-free by choice, and every time one of my friends or family members has asked me when my husband and I plan to spawn 'because it's so fulfulling to rear children', I quote Giles at them. "Do you want me to answer that (ridiculous question), or shall I just glare?"

So maybe I'm projecting, but I really get the notion that if FemShep wanted to spawn her very own little walking bundles of bacteria, she'd have done so with a human prior to the events of ME1.


This this this THIS. In my mind, Shepard is firmly, 100% childfree. She doesn't have the time or patience for spawn, hybrid (if that were even remotely possible) or otherwise. 

Of course, like you, I'm definitely projecting to at least some extent, given that I have less than no interest whatsoever in having kids. Still, given Shepard's job, overall personality, and *ahem* choice in men, it seems to me that she and childfreedom could very well go hand in hand.

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AngryP1xel wrote...

Ms Cherissa wrote...

Huh, like Leia as parent/spouse/Very Important Galactic Persona really? Makes a kind of sense. Though given the basic personalities of both Garrus and Shepard if you take it as Renegade-laced Paragon, I could see them adopting Batarian war orphans.


Domestic Garrus and Shepard?  Now I'm imagining Garrus falling asleep on the couch and waking up to his daughter having painted his talons pink.


For some reason that particular image has me picturing Garrus with a beer belly and sweatpants....  :?
I wonder if turians gain weight in the same areas as humans.  It's possible that their weight-distribution is different (would he have a massive, krogan-style back hump of fat?).  Actually, let's just not imagine a chubby Garrus.

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Just FYI, when I said I could see Shepard settling down somewhat after saving the galaxy, I didn't mean like retiring to a convent or something or becoming a  "homemaker" barefoot and pregnant in the kitchen.  I was more just saying I don't think it's that far-fetched to imagine a career military woman, such as herself, with a 150 year life expectency, to have kids at some point. She would never stop being important or a "Big Damn Hero."  She would always be famous and probably continue using her influence to help people. Of course Big Heroes can never become "normal" people, but even they DO sometimes "settle down" in the sense that they don't continue questing or adventuring forever.  The "Hero's Journey", as it were, comes to an end one way or another, either with death, or just general retirement from saving the world.***  Even Frodo (to continue wth LOTR analogy), who didn't settle down with a wifey like Sam, still got on that boat and sailed away to spend the rest of his days relaxing, I'm going to presume in a hammock sipping pina coladas on an island somewhere in "the West" ;).


***Until, of course, they are called out of retirement at some future date because none of these young upstarts ever learned how to save the world the *right* way ^_^.


I guess the point is I think it's fine for people to imagine their femShep having a family or kids post-ME3 (unless she dies...:crying::crying::crying:) and that it's not necessarily in conflict with the Shepard that Bioware created.

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Tootles FTW wrote...

AngryP1xel wrote...

Ms Cherissa wrote...

Huh, like Leia as parent/spouse/Very Important Galactic Persona really? Makes a kind of sense. Though given the basic personalities of both Garrus and Shepard if you take it as Renegade-laced Paragon, I could see them adopting Batarian war orphans.


Domestic Garrus and Shepard?  Now I'm imagining Garrus falling asleep on the couch and waking up to his daughter having painted his talons pink.


For some reason that particular image has me picturing Garrus with a beer belly and sweatpants....  :?
I wonder if turians gain weight in the same areas as humans.  It's possible that their weight-distribution is different (would he have a massive, krogan-style back hump of fat?).  Actually, let's just not imagine a chubby Garrus.


Nah.  He'd still stay sexy.  He's far too active to ever gain weight that isn't muscle.  On that note, is it just me or did he gain a noticeable amount of muscle mass between 1 and 2?  Maybe it's just the armor but I could swear he looks bigger even in clothing.

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I've seen enough movies and documentaries about hybrids to believe that it's possible, especially in the future like Mass Effect, but somehow I doubt it'll happen in the game. xD I'll just imagine my Shepard's awesome hybrid child.

All of my Shepards have different opinions about children, relationships, and their futures. If hybrid children are impossible, the one who's paired with Garrus would definitely want to adopt orphaned turian children, maybe humans too (she likes turians more than her own species), because she was orphaned as well (Colonist background). She's not the type to settle down though. Those kids would grow up on the ship watching their parents save the world.

My Shepard took the Renegade options with Garrus too. :) Actually, all of them would. They're a vengeful bunch of characters, all (15?) of them. xD

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The Renegade/Paragon thing comes down to personal preference, really. I don't think killing Sidonis would turn Garrus into Saren, because Saren had a lot of other things going wrong for him besides a skewed sense of right and wrong. I was more worried Garrus would become some kind of thug rather than a megalomaniac like Saren. It's a slippery slope from 'this person deserves to die' to 'who doesn't?'. It was undeniable to Paragons that the issue with Sidonis was changing him, but it's hard to see if you're Renegade and have let him skirt that path the whole time. It really is a much more important mission for Paragons than Renegades, unfortunately.

I think that line describes at least one of my Shepards perfectly. xD I agree though, Garrus' loyalty mission did seem pretty easy for a Renegade. My Shepard just stood back and watched him for the most part, but she enjoyed it a lot.

Modifié par Kim Shepard, 16 février 2010 - 02:11 .


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Plus, we don't know *what* Shep's longterm plans were pre-Saren and pre-revelation about the Reaper threat. She may have been great at her job and planning a military career, but before knowledge and onus of saving the galaxy fell upon her shoulders, she may have intended to eventually retire and have family. Remember, SpacerShep's mom is Alliance herself...