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[Nyaore]

Rascality wrote...

... Drat you all, now I want to draw a mini-comic of that scene with FemShep in a towel. ><

DO EET!

That pregnant Femshep picture is pretty cute, though at the same time slightly disturbing.. I can't quite place my finger on why it's disturbing, it just is on some level. Still it's a nice find!

[Faerlyte]

Well, the way I look at it, why bother having a Garrus romance at all if you're just going to scrap it in ME3? That doesn't make sense. It's just extra work that you're doing to temporarily please fans, only to cause rebellion in ME3 when you basically toss it out the window. There would be a lot of jilted, angry people and I seriously doubt they'd do that to such a large fanbase. Besides, they've got to find a way to improve upon ME2, which means they've got to pull out all the stops if they want ME3 to be even more epic.



I'm sure that Bioware has a long term plan of some sort and that they wouldn't have decided to go ahead with making Garrus a romance option if they didn't. It wouldn't be very good management of time and resources otherwise.

[Himmelstor]

Doesn't...Garrus have too many...fingers? Let alone the impossibility of the pregnancy.

[aznsoisauce]

The best part of that picture is that Garrus is STILL wearing that damn...uh...monocle.

[Popguin]

He needs it to determine the baby's power level.

[Bondagenun]

Popguin wrote...

He needs it to determine the baby's power level.

IT'S OVER 9000!!!!!!!!!!!!

[MerchantGOL]

Bondagenun wrote...

Popguin wrote...

He needs it to determine the baby's power level.

IT'S OVER 9000!!!!!!!!!!!!

What 9000!? theirs no way that can be right...Can it?

[Lord Atlia]

FriendofGarrus wrote...

MerchantGOL wrote...

I am gonna leave this right here....

Apparently some people are extremely hardcore.....

This is just too cute.

[Annora]

Maybe she's having a human baby, and Garrus will raise it as his own. Doesn't have to automatically mean freaky half alien baby.

[MerchantGOL]

Anastassia wrote...

Maybe she's having a human baby, and Garrus will raise it as his own. Doesn't have to automatically mean freaky half alien baby.

I thoght this too

[siltsonata]

In an effort to catch up to the Tali thread, :innocent: I do have a hypothetical question for anyone who wants to answer...
 
I've been wondering lately about the role LI's will play in ME3.  I get the feeling that they're going to be plot-important, since Bioware worked so hard to keep Liara and the ME1 interest alive (I think Liara will fill in for any lost love interest or lack of one, since she's proven herself to be a dedicated friend if nothing else).

For some reason, I can't help but imagining a Virmire/Citadel hybrid choice, somehow being forced to choose between saving your LI and some group of people.  A life of one versus the lives on many sort of thing...seems dramatically appropriate. 

My question is, in such a hypothetical situation, would you choose to save Garrus? Or would you save the large group (I haven't specified how large, civilian or military, what species, etc., so if that matters feel free to specify under what conditions you would or wouldn't save them .)

The idea's been following me all day, and I just wondered what other people would do if we were made to choose in ME3.

[FriendofGarrus]

Faerlyte wrote...

Well, the way I look at it, why bother having a Garrus romance at all if you're just going to scrap it in ME3? That doesn't make sense. It's just extra work that you're doing to temporarily please fans, only to cause rebellion in ME3 when you basically toss it out the window. There would be a lot of jilted, angry people and I seriously doubt they'd do that to such a large fanbase. Besides, they've got to find a way to improve upon ME2, which means they've got to pull out all the stops if they want ME3 to be even more epic.

I'm sure that Bioware has a long term plan of some sort and that they wouldn't have decided to go ahead with making Garrus a romance option if they didn't. It wouldn't be very good management of time and resources otherwise.

Well Bioware all but scraped the romance from the first game so it is very possible....

It is the number of endings that will cause problems. For some people Garrus and Tali died. Thus if they play a major role in ME3 those players will be missing out. I can't see Bioware creating a large amount of content that some players may not even have the chance to use. I HOPE Garrus and Tali return but there are difficulties in writing it int othe story since everyone and anyone can die in that last mission.

[ShadowWolf_Kell]

siltsonata wrote...

In an effort to catch up to the Tali thread, :innocent: I do have a hypothetical question for anyone who wants to answer...
 
I've been wondering lately about the role LI's will play in ME3.  I get the feeling that they're going to be plot-important, since Bioware worked so hard to keep Liara and the ME1 interest alive (I think Liara will fill in for any lost love interest or lack of one, since she's proven herself to be a dedicated friend if nothing else).

For some reason, I can't help but imagining a Virmire/Citadel hybrid choice, somehow being forced to choose between saving your LI and some group of people.  A life of one versus the lives on many sort of thing...seems dramatically appropriate. 

My question is, in such a hypothetical situation, would you choose to save Garrus? Or would you save the large group (I haven't specified how large, civilian or military, what species, etc., so if that matters feel free to specify under what conditions you would or wouldn't save them .)

The idea's been following me all day, and I just wondered what other people would do if we were made to choose in ME3.

I've pondered that myself and I can already imagine what he'll say...

Garrus:  Shepard....  you know what has to be done...

[Rascality]

Oh man, siltsonata, that's a hard question! On the one hand, Garrus > everyone else. On the other hand, my Shepard has spent two games hauling him toward the paragon side of the force, and I'm pretty sure he'd be a tiny bit upset at her if she chose to save him at the expense of a bunch of other people...

[ShadowWolf_Kell]

Rascality wrote...

Oh man, siltsonata, that's a hard question! On the one hand, Garrus > everyone else. On the other hand, my Shepard has spent two games hauling him toward the paragon side of the force, and I'm pretty sure he'd be a tiny bit upset at her if she chose to save him at the expense of a bunch of other people...

Same here.

[ThatDancingTurian]

Man, I hope we don't have to make that choice. PLEASE let us not have to make a choice like that. I already had that kind of ending with DA:O.



The worst part about that choice is that because of the kind of people my Paragon Shepard and Garrus are, if she -did- let people die to save him, it would probably eat at them both and eventually drive a wedge between them. Stupid heroism!

[Neria Rose]

siltsonata wrote...

For some reason, I can't help but imagining a Virmire/Citadel hybrid choice, somehow being forced to choose between saving your LI and some group of people.  A life of one versus the lives on many sort of thing...seems dramatically appropriate. 

My question is, in such a hypothetical situation, would you choose to save Garrus? Or would you save the large group (I haven't specified how large, civilian or military, what species, etc., so if that matters feel free to specify under what conditions you would or wouldn't save them .)

Definitely Garrus. He's #1 in my FemShep's life, period. If his life were in danger, I think she'd automatically think of him first. I'm sure she'd feel some (perhaps tons.. crushing..) guilt over X amount of people dying, but only after being certain of Garrus' safety.

Modifié par Neria Rose, 04 février 2010 - 04:54 .

[Annora]

ShadowWolf_Kell wrote...
I've pondered that myself and I can already imagine what he'll say...

Garrus:  Shepard....  you know what has to be done...

Shepard: I can't, Garrus. I can't do it. I can't lose you.
Garrus: You say this as if you had a choice in the matter.
Shepard: Garrus, no!

Garrus picks up the sword and drives it through the archdemon's head.

Me: ...I hate you, BioWare.

[Faerlyte]

FriendofGarrus wrote...

Faerlyte wrote...

Well, the way I look at it, why bother having a Garrus romance at all if you're just going to scrap it in ME3? That doesn't make sense. It's just extra work that you're doing to temporarily please fans, only to cause rebellion in ME3 when you basically toss it out the window. There would be a lot of jilted, angry people and I seriously doubt they'd do that to such a large fanbase. Besides, they've got to find a way to improve upon ME2, which means they've got to pull out all the stops if they want ME3 to be even more epic.

I'm sure that Bioware has a long term plan of some sort and that they wouldn't have decided to go ahead with making Garrus a romance option if they didn't. It wouldn't be very good management of time and resources otherwise.

Well Bioware all but scraped the romance from the first game so it is very possible....

It is the number of endings that will cause problems. For some people Garrus and Tali died. Thus if they play a major role in ME3 those players will be missing out. I can't see Bioware creating a large amount of content that some players may not even have the chance to use. I HOPE Garrus and Tali return but there are difficulties in writing it int othe story since everyone and anyone can die in that last mission.

Yes, but ME2 is the second of a trilogy and I say that the ME1 LIs haven't been scrapped - Bioware is saving them for the big showdown because they're "special". There's a reason they're going to so much trouble to keep them alive. Those characters were provided in the first game as the romantic leads of the trilogy - they're not going to be scrapped from ME3. 

Of course, that could mean anything for the ME2 LIs I suppose, but anyone who owns ME2 can go back and save those characters at any time. Quite frankly, I don't give a crap if they died on someone else's play through because the only reason characters die is if you A. skip a good portion of the game, aka the loyalty missions, which is lame (so, uh, why are you bothering to play ME2?), or B. you make bad choices by assigning the wrong characters to the wrong responsibilities in the final mission, which is easily rectifiable. Everyone knows how to get the squad out alive and it's the "right" thing to do. I didn't have any trouble figuring it out when I did it, all of my party survived, and that is the paragon route. I expect some compensation for that, not a slap in the face just because someone else was lazy. 

Basically, for all those who will be missing out - they deserve it for being moronic, because you can go back and do it right if for some reason you messed up the first time, and there's no good reason not to. People shouldn't be rewarded for getting their characters killed. I don't get it. I don't want any of the characters to die and I'm making damn sure they all live because that, to me, is the canon route of the game.

Choices are supposed to have consequences. If all we get for getting our squad out alive is a bunch of cameos then Bioware might as well have killed them all because what is the point? If they're going to have there be consequences, then they ought to do it and not cut corners just because someone was an ass and got half their people killed. 

Sorry...you might have noticed that I feel rather strongly about this. 

[ThatDancingTurian]

Anastassia wrote...

ShadowWolf_Kell wrote...
I've pondered that myself and I can already imagine what he'll say...

Garrus:  Shepard....  you know what has to be done...

Shepard: I can't, Garrus. I can't do it. I can't lose you.
Garrus: You say this as if you had a choice in the matter.
Shepard: Garrus, no!

Garrus picks up the sword and drives it through the archdemon's head.

Me: ...I hate you, BioWare.

ROFL. Gaaaah.

[siltsonata]

ShadowWolf_Kell wrote...

siltsonata wrote...

In an effort to catch up to the Tali thread, :innocent: I do have a hypothetical question for anyone who wants to answer...
 
I've been wondering lately about the role LI's will play in ME3.  I get the feeling that they're going to be plot-important, since Bioware worked so hard to keep Liara and the ME1 interest alive (I think Liara will fill in for any lost love interest or lack of one, since she's proven herself to be a dedicated friend if nothing else).

For some reason, I can't help but imagining a Virmire/Citadel hybrid choice, somehow being forced to choose between saving your LI and some group of people.  A life of one versus the lives on many sort of thing...seems dramatically appropriate. 

My question is, in such a hypothetical situation, would you choose to save Garrus? Or would you save the large group (I haven't specified how large, civilian or military, what species, etc., so if that matters feel free to specify under what conditions you would or wouldn't save them .)

The idea's been following me all day, and I just wondered what other people would do if we were made to choose in ME3.

I've pondered that myself and I can already imagine what he'll say...

Garrus:  Shepard....  you know what has to be done...

Knife? Meet Heart.  Insert, twist.

I hear ya.  That's why I reeeeeeally hope we don't get anything like this, but...you never know.

[Annora]

BioWare loves their dramatic endings, a tough choice will have to be made.

[Von Verrikan]

FriendofGarrus wrote...

Faerlyte wrote...

Well, the way I look at it, why bother having a Garrus romance at all if you're just going to scrap it in ME3? That doesn't make sense. It's just extra work that you're doing to temporarily please fans, only to cause rebellion in ME3 when you basically toss it out the window. There would be a lot of jilted, angry people and I seriously doubt they'd do that to such a large fanbase. Besides, they've got to find a way to improve upon ME2, which means they've got to pull out all the stops if they want ME3 to be even more epic.

I'm sure that Bioware has a long term plan of some sort and that they wouldn't have decided to go ahead with making Garrus a romance option if they didn't. It wouldn't be very good management of time and resources otherwise.

Well Bioware all but scraped the romance from the first game so it is very possible....

It is the number of endings that will cause problems. For some people Garrus and Tali died. Thus if they play a major role in ME3 those players will be missing out. I can't see Bioware creating a large amount of content that some players may not even have the chance to use. I HOPE Garrus and Tali return but there are difficulties in writing it int othe story since everyone and anyone can die in that last mission.

Well you also need to consider that Bioware really listens to the fanbase. If we are all dying to have these guys back, we will get as much. Besides in Garrus and Tali's case they are backed by not only being in two of three games already, but they have huge fan bases AND they are now both options for a relationship. They know the power of these characters in particular and they are not stupid enough to just throw it away.

If you save Sidonis for example.. The quote from him is that he will make it up to garrus one day. It's pretty obvious this implies an event between him and garrus in the third game. You don't write in something like that if you don't expect it to effect someone in the next game. As a squadmate? It makes the most sense. I can't see him NOT being one after all this. No chance.

[helmet_ok]

It would be heartbreaking to take Garrus and Tali so far only to see them drop off in ME:3



Tali arguable (if she wasn't exiled) has the migrant fleet. But where the hell would Garrus go?



"See you Shepard - off to do some space gardening..."

[Faerlyte]

Haven't we already had to choose between killing one person or another? It would be a little redundant to incorporate that again, even if the circumstances are slightly different.



Not to mention I would probably dedicate the rest of my life to cursing Bioware and everything it stands for if they did something like that. That would be just wrong on so many levels. Goodbye whatever number of people that's going to die for saving Garrus. And even better - if you DID choose to save Garrus, the guilt would be so great for him that he'd disappear and you'd never see him again. So it would be like, a total lose-lose situation!



Oh yeah. classic. I wouldn't come out of my room for a month.