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[Mikazukinoyaiba2]

Always loved Garrus, didn't like him getting scarred.



Having Garrus get disfigured because I wasn't able to help him felt like a failure on my character's part.



Didn't know so many female players were interested in Garrus, I thought he was a cool guy didn't realize they'd want him to be romancable.

[Nyaore]

Speaking of fighting, has anyone fed those rachni lately...? It would seem they just fell off the face of the earth since the game launched last week... o___o We're going to need them to keep on 'encouraging' the Dev's to include a happy ending for all the Garrus lovers out there.

[MarginalBeast]

Melisiana wrote...

Eradyn wrote...

For those concerned over Shepard "forcing" Garrus into a relationship. The guy knows what he wants and he repeatedly jumps at the opportunity, except when he's concerned if this is what Shepard wants.

@1:04 in the video, Shepard even brings it up with him about how she doesn't want to pressure him and if he's uncomfortable with this to just say so. Garrus wants this. He's not uncomfortable or pressured, but he's nervous because this is Shepard, a woman he cares very deeply for.

So...don't feel bad. It's not like he's a nervous virgin who's bumbling around without a clue, it's just that he's discussing getting intimate with a (human) woman he cares deeply for.

Because we've already had one of those.

Anyway, this is what I'm hoping and how I try to see it but I had to vent anyway. I would feel better if he had initiated. Seems Thane doesn't initiate either, not sure about Jacob. For me it's just odd because I get this impression of a Sheppard on the prowl.

Jacob doesn't initiate it either. I think Shepard has to be the aggressive one in all of the ME2 romances for them to go anywhere. It's not like in ME1 or DA:O where your LI will come to YOU and say something. I'd rather it was, but alas.

[Splinter Cell 108]

MarginalBeast wrote...

I am a little jealous of the Tali fans to be honest, since she basically tells Shepard that she had been crushing on him all throughout ME1 and just never thought he'd be interested in her. We don't really get anything like that with Garrus.

I still like the Garrus romance as a whole, though. I just hope it's more...romance-y in ME3.

Maybe he just didn't say it. He probably didn't expect Shepard to tell him that she likes him. Besides he only gets nervous when you tell him about "sparring". He'll probably be more romantic in ME3, especially since he's involved with Shepard now. There would be no reason to be awkward anymore.

[Eradyn]

Melisiana wrote...

Eradyn wrote...

For those concerned over Shepard "forcing" Garrus into a relationship. The guy knows what he wants and he repeatedly jumps at the opportunity, except when he's concerned if this is what Shepard wants.

@1:04 in the video, Shepard even brings it up with him about how she doesn't want to pressure him and if he's uncomfortable with this to just say so. Garrus wants this. He's not uncomfortable or pressured, but he's nervous because this is Shepard, a woman he cares very deeply for.

So...don't feel bad. It's not like he's a nervous virgin who's bumbling around without a clue, it's just that he's discussing getting intimate with a (human) woman he cares deeply for.

Because we've already had one of those.

Anyway, this is what I'm hoping and how I try to see it but I had to vent anyway. I would feel better if he had initiated. Seems Thane doesn't initiate either, not sure about Jacob. For me it's just odd because I get this impression of a Sheppard on the prowl.

In ME2, it's definitely Shepard who's on the prowl with all three of them and she has to initiate the romance (although some seem...almost easier to initiate than others... *cough*Jacob*cough*).

Nyaore wrote...

Speaking of fighting, has anyone fed
those rachni lately...? It would seem they just fell off the face of
the earth since the game launched last week... o___o We're going to
need them to keep on 'encouraging' the Dev's to include a happy ending
for all the Garrus lovers out there.

Oh shi-- XD

Better go take care of that... [smilie]../../../images/forum/emoticons/whistling.png[/smilie]

*hears bloodcurdling screams coming from the armory*

Modifié par Eradyn, 05 février 2010 - 04:47 .

[Xalena]

Madolin wrote...

Rascality wrote...

Right, whose idea was FemShep riding a thresher maw? 'cause I drew it. ><

well the thresher maw was my idea, but not the idea of shepard riding it. XD

I mentioned riding...haha thanks )) Save->as->desktop background... damn why i don't have such drawing skills...ah maybe I can make some music for Garrus...

[Melisiana]

Eradyn wrote...

In ME2, it's definitely Shepard who's on the prowl with all three of them and she has to initiate the romance (although some seem...almost easier to initiate than others... *cough*Jacob*cough*).

Talking to Jacob crepped me out. Just ASKING about him made Shep give this creepy come on. Blagh. I really wish the guys would have come to you and you could accept/deny, or at least some of them depending on their character. It seems like Thane might have been one to initiate, maybe not Garrus but I would have liked to hear an "I've been interested in you" or something to that effect.

Ah, well. I can cuddle Garrus. This is all that matters.

Edit: Btw, anyone else wonder just exactly what would be "chaffed?" I can't seem to picture that right...

Modifié par Melisiana, 05 février 2010 - 04:52 .

[jellobell]

Melisiana wrote...

Eradyn wrote...

For those concerned over Shepard "forcing" Garrus into a relationship. The guy knows what he wants and he repeatedly jumps at the opportunity, except when he's concerned if this is what Shepard wants.

@1:04 in the video, Shepard even brings it up with him about how she doesn't want to pressure him and if he's uncomfortable with this to just say so. Garrus wants this. He's not uncomfortable or pressured, but he's nervous because this is Shepard, a woman he cares very deeply for.

So...don't feel bad. It's not like he's a nervous virgin who's bumbling around without a clue, it's just that he's discussing getting intimate with a (human) woman he cares deeply for.

Because we've already had one of those.

Anyway, this is what I'm hoping and how I try to see it but I had to vent anyway. I would feel better if he had initiated. Seems Thane doesn't initiate either, not sure about Jacob. For me it's just odd because I get this impression of a Sheppard on the prowl.

I think they did that because people complained about how the romances in the last game wouldn't take a hint, unless you were a complete jerk to them. In ME2 you have to specifically initiate the romance yourself, for example in Thane's case there's an option that says "I want you"
In Jacob's case it's a bit more blatant, but I saw this as Bioware not wanting to beat newer players over the head with the more "alien" romances, lest they get totally creeped out.
I personally appreciated the option of being able to act carefully nice to neutral and not cause every romanceable party member to fall instantly in love with me (looking at you Liara).

[Prolefeed]

Melisiana wrote...

Made an account just for the sake of replying to this thread.

Garrus. I had a crush on him since the first ME and decided to forgo all the other (god awful) romance options to pine for him. When I heard he was romanceable in ME2 I did a little dance. 

I love the dynamic between the two of them and my Sheppard's story with him just feels so right. This is why I'm saddened and worried by how the romance actually played out. I did think that it was incredibly sweet and cute, and it did -fit,- but part of me felt uncomfortable about it, like he wasn't ok with it and I was taking advantage of him.

I've heard some of those concerns echoed here, so I guess I'll just describe how I kind of viewed the romance and why it was so troubling. I'm wondering if anyone else saw it that way and I'm curious to get people's thoughts.

One way to view it, to me, is that Garrus has always looked up to Sheppard and was grateful that she gave him an out from, and purpose after, c-sec. He accepted her moral guidance and took to heart what she said. Overall immensely respected her. She dies, he loses his mentor and her guidance and goes back to his old habbits to cope. He blames himself and his weakness (possibly not living up to what she had taught him) for the loss of his team. Joins up with Shep again, damaged and friendless except for her.

Up until now they've simply been the best of friends and he'd never thought of her as anything more. When she brings up "blowing off steam" he is completely taken off guard. However in his damaged state, her being the only person he has, he kind of latches onto that and thinks "why not?" and says he'll consider it. When you listen to his reasoning it's basically that. He says he respects her and she's all he has.

Overall it just seems like he's in a weird place and goes for it because he doesn't have anyone else and doesn't want to lose her as a friend. It seems like he's doing it because she wants to, not because he wants to; to appease her. His awkwardness, lack of attraction to her, and the fact that all of the "let's just be friends" responses are paragon makes me wonder and makes me sad. : /

It's like she's pressing it and he's just going along with it.

I try not to view it this way, but it got to me and soured the romance for me a bit. What do you guys think?

I have to say after reading so many pages of this thread I've definitely been swayed and felt better about the whole thing, but this view still nags at me.

Agh! It just annoys me that just talking to Thane PLATONICALLY gets you all this flirting and here's Garrus, perfect for Sheppard, and he's all  "I'm not really into humans but I RESPECT you so much I think we should touch our interspecies naughty bits together....I guess." Wtf.

Even if that isn't the case, the two gripes I did have about the relationship was that he wasn't attracted to her (I know he said humans but it's hard not to take that personally ) and that the relationship starts out with sex. Seems weird for an attractionless relationship to start out with a booty call.

Well, his "out of dialogue" romance thing that he just repeats "I really want to try it with you" until you go through the Omega 4 Relay. If he was in it just for Shepard, I really doubt he'd be saying that line. And if you do break up with him, he's truly disappointed.

And it may have been just me, but when Garrus said, "Why the hell not?" I heard, "Hell yes." Shepard's a BAMF. Garrus likes BAMF, whether it comes in a soft, fleshy package with weird hair or not. Thus, Garrus likes Shepard.

I think Shepard's attraction to Garrus has the same basis. Plus trust, respect, friendship, admiration - pretty much every emotion you need to cook up a deep, lasting love.

Also, as for the sex-first thing, I think that's partly the "We may all die at the end of this mission" mentality. (Which can go two ways - in ME1, your romance options all took the "must confess all feelings now" route. In ME2, I think Garrus and Shepard are taking the "what's the point in confessing our feelings" route during their romance.)

And you have to remember; It's just not in Garrus to appease anyone. I don't think he's capable of it, not even for Shepard. I seriously doubt he'd be talking himself into having sex with her because he thinks it'll just be easier for their relationship. Particularly not when he acknowledges that if the sex goes badly it could seriously mess up their relationship.

Shepard coming on to Garrus surprises Garrrus because he just didn't ever expect her to be into aliens. Plus, he's on his whole self-loathing bender about how he's a horrible leader who got his entire squad killed, is losing his moral compass, and now has a jacked-up face to boot. Not to mention the family disowning and everything that probably happened back when Garrus first joined up with Shepard. When you're in that kind of dark place, I don't think you'd really expect anyone to be attracted to you. There are lines that show he's becoming attracted to Shepard on a physical level, though. Like "Right, cause I'm in a great place to optimize firing algorithms right now." I totally took that to mean Shepard had gotten him hot and bothered.

And once you get past the initial flirting, the "let's stay friends" response becomes the Paragon route in all the relationships. Thane, Jacob, Miranda, Jack, Garrus, and Tali. I guess having sex is just not Lawful Good.

Back to the sex-first thing: Turians seem to be even more chill about sex than humans are. Possibly because turians are better at remaining emotionally objective after having sex with people. According to Garrus, at least, casual sex is condoned by the Turian military as a way for the crew to relieve stress and stay our of serious trouble. Obviously, from the amount of stress he had over it, the sex with Shepard wasn't casual for Garrus. But he probably still doesn't want to voice any of his emotions, because that could possibly impair the mission by emotionally compromising Shepard, who needs to make objective choices as the commanding officer. And Shepard herself would most likely prefer not to repeat a Virmire situation. So it's just safer-feeing for both of them to tell themselves it is "only sex" even when they both know it's not.

I wouldn't be surprised if Garrus-mancers get a quick confirmation of far deeper feelings on both ends at the beginning of ME3.

[EpsilonZem]

Eradyn wrote...

Oh shi-- XD

Better go take care of that... [smilie]../../../images/forum/emoticons/whistling.png[/smilie]

*hears bloodcurdling screams coming from the armory*

We clearly need to put Kelly in charge of feeding the Rachni. xD

[Xalena]

MarginalBeast wrote...
Jacob doesn't initiate it either. I think Shepard has to be the aggressive one in all of the ME2 romances for them to go anywhere. It's not like in ME1 or DA:O where your LI will come to YOU and say something. I'd rather it was, but alas.

Shepard is space alfa female predator *rawr*

[siltsonata]

Melisiana wrote...

Eradyn wrote...

For those concerned over Shepard "forcing" Garrus into a relationship. The guy knows what he wants and he repeatedly jumps at the opportunity, except when he's concerned if this is what Shepard wants.

@1:04 in the video, Shepard even brings it up with him about how she doesn't want to pressure him and if he's uncomfortable with this to just say so. Garrus wants this. He's not uncomfortable or pressured, but he's nervous because this is Shepard, a woman he cares very deeply for.

So...don't feel bad. It's not like he's a nervous virgin who's bumbling around without a clue, it's just that he's discussing getting intimate with a (human) woman he cares deeply for.

Because we've already had one of those.

Anyway, this is what I'm hoping and how I try to see it but I had to vent anyway. I would feel better if he had initiated. Seems Thane doesn't initiate either, not sure about Jacob. For me it's just odd because I get this impression of a Sheppard on the prowl.

Well, I think Bioware didn't want anyone to feel like they were being thrown into any relationships.  Kaidan pretty much does this in ME1, and while that's great if you like him, it gets awkward if you don't.

Imagine how much more awkward it would be if you don't find Garrus or Thane attractive in any way (Hey, they're aliens...if I didn't have a whole game's worth of experience loving Garrus I would probably find it weird too) And suddenly here are these guys who aren't even your species, hitting on you...I can just sort of see people freaking out about that.

So they just decided Shepard would initiate all romances, I think.  I don't mind.  To me, I just see Shepard as a confident woman who knows what she wants, not a prowler. 

[Xalena]

Melisiana wrote...

Eradyn wrote...

In ME2, it's definitely Shepard who's on the prowl with all three of them and she has to initiate the romance (although some seem...almost easier to initiate than others... *cough*Jacob*cough*).

Talking to Jacob crepped me out. Just ASKING about him made Shep give this creepy come on. Blagh. I really wish the guys would have come to you and you could accept/deny, or at least some of them depending on their character. It seems like Thane might have been one to initiate, maybe not Garrus but I would have liked to hear an "I've been interested in you" or something to that effect.

Ah, well. I can cuddle Garrus. This is all that matters.

Edit: Btw, anyone else wonder just exactly what would be "chaffed?" I can't seem to picture that right...

No because some people would start screaming how BIOWARE IS FORCING ROMANCES ON PLAYERS...blame that

[Xalena]

this thread is going to fast now...can't catch everything...am going to sleep 5:56 in the morning here xD ccc

[Splinter Cell 108]

Eradyn wrote...


In ME2, it's definitely Shepard who's on the prowl with all three of them and she has to initiate the romance (although some seem...almost easier to initiate than others... *cough*Jacob*cough*).

WIth the Male Shepard it's the other way around. Everyone starts hitting on you, even NPGs from ME1. I wanted to keep my Vanguard romanceless but that's not happening, I'm going to Romance Tali in my 2nd playthrough. I guess BioWare just made the romances too well so I can't stay away from them.

[Melisiana]

Prolefeed wrote...

Well, his "out of dialogue" romance thing that he just repeats "I really want to try it with you" until you go through the Omega 4 Relay. If he was in it just for Shepard, I really doubt he'd be saying that line. And if you do break up with him, he's truly disappointed.

And it may have been just me, but when Garrus said, "Why the hell not?" I heard, "Hell yes." Shepard's a BAMF. Garrus likes BAMF, whether it comes in a soft, fleshy package with weird hair or not. Thus, Garrus likes Shepard.

I think Shepard's attraction to Garrus has the same basis. Plus trust, respect, friendship, admiration - pretty much every emotion you need to cook up a deep, lasting love.

Also, as for the sex-first thing, I think that's partly the "We may all die at the end of this mission" mentality. (Which can go two ways - in ME1, your romance options all took the "must confess all feelings now" route. In ME2, I think Garrus and Shepard are taking the "what's the point in confessing our feelings" route during their romance.)

And you have to remember; It's just not in Garrus to appease anyone. I don't think he's capable of it, not even for Shepard. I seriously doubt he'd be talking himself into having sex with her because he thinks it'll just be easier for their relationship. Particularly not when he acknowledges that if the sex goes badly it could seriously mess up their relationship.

Shepard coming on to Garrus surprises Garrrus because he just didn't ever expect her to be into aliens. Plus, he's on his whole self-loathing bender about how he's a horrible leader who got his entire squad killed, is losing his moral compass, and now has a jacked-up face to boot. Not to mention the family disowning and everything that probably happened back when Garrus first joined up with Shepard. When you're in that kind of dark place, I don't think you'd really expect anyone to be attracted to you. There are lines that show he's becoming attracted to Shepard on a physical level, though. Like "Right, cause I'm in a great place to optimize firing algorithms right now." I totally took that to mean Shepard had gotten him hot and bothered.

And once you get past the initial flirting, the "let's stay friends" response becomes the Paragon route in all the relationships. Thane, Jacob, Miranda, Jack, Garrus, and Tali. I guess having sex is just not Lawful Good.

Back to the sex-first thing: Turians seem to be even more chill about sex than humans are. Possibly because turians are better at remaining emotionally objective after having sex with people. According to Garrus, at least, casual sex is condoned by the Turian military as a way for the crew to relieve stress and stay our of serious trouble. Obviously, from the amount of stress he had over it, the sex with Shepard wasn't casual for Garrus. But he probably still doesn't want to voice any of his emotions, because that could possibly impair the mission by emotionally compromising Shepard, who needs to make objective choices as the commanding officer. And Shepard herself would most likely prefer not to repeat a Virmire situation. So it's just safer-feeing for both of them to tell themselves it is "only sex" even when they both know it's not.

I wouldn't be surprised if Garrus-mancers get a quick confirmation of far deeper feelings on both ends at the beginning of ME3.

Wow thanks a lot for responding so thoroughly. I definitely prefer your view of the relationship and I hope that you're right. In fact I get the feeling that you are. It does seem to fit, and I got the same vibe about the "right, because I'm in a great place to..." dialogue, but man does his "ew, humans" remark hit hard.

Good to know about the paragon "let's be friends" dialogue. That had been the most ominous sign for me.

I'm not totally sure about the break-up dialogue. It kind of depends when you do it (since you have so many options to<_<). If you do it after first mentioning hooking up he sounds happier with the decision, even relieved. If it's after the repeated "I want to try it with you" dialogue then I'm not sure. On the one hand he seems completely fine and unphased, but that moment of silence does make me wonder.

@jellobell That stupid smurf. She graped my first Shepard. I had to go through all of ME1 again and delay playing ME2 all because she couldn't take a hint. Still not comfortable with cougar Shep though. And that look she gets on her face...

[Prolefeed]

jellobell wrote...

Prolefeed wrote...

I had exactly the same response to Aria's comment. I wanted Shep to be like, "I prefer men. Specifically, those capable of holding off three mercenary bands alone with a single sniper rifle for three days."

Aria would probably be slightly disgusted. "Ugh, do-gooder sex!"

btw, have any of you noticed that Joker has a comment about each team member when you pick them up? And then a different comment when you take them on a mission with you? You ask him about "the mission" and "the squad" respectively. His comments about Garrus are gold. 

Yeah, I loved Joker's commentary on the crew, especially his "Looks like Garrus finally worked that stick outta his ass, but now he's trying to beat guys to death with it". The only problem is that I ended up hearing it way too often, because even though I cycled through the 2nd slot, Garrus was always in my party (which is why I practically have it memorized by now).

Prolefeed wrote...

I'll get on that. There's supposed to be a freaking EPIC snowstorm hereabouts in the next few days, so I should have some free time. (They're expecting pretty much everything to shut down for almost a week. I'm excited.)

Good to hear! Err...about the fanfic, not the snowstorm, those are a pain. Unless of course you're excited for the opportunity to relax, which is good, though the cleanup afterwards is a headache. *Is Canadian*

Does joker switch to that dialogue after you do Garrus' loyalty quest? I haven't heard that one before, lol.

I love snowstorms. We never get any down here in the mid-Atlantic. But atm we've got two storm systems set to collide right on top of us tomorrow.  A Nor'easter-potential storm front coming up from Texas, and a witch's ******-freezing cold front from the midwest. EXCITING.

Something to consider: Are turians more, or less flexible than humans? :innocent:

[siltsonata]

Splinter Cell 108 wrote...

Eradyn wrote...


In ME2, it's definitely Shepard who's on the prowl with all three of them and she has to initiate the romance (although some seem...almost easier to initiate than others... *cough*Jacob*cough*).

WIth the Male Shepard it's the other way around. Everyone starts hitting on you, even NPGs from ME1. I wanted to keep my Vanguard romanceless but that's not happening, I'm going to Romance Tali in my 2nd playthrough. I guess BioWare just made the romances too well so I can't stay away from them.

Aha, though, for me? Commander John Shepard is a whole different customer.  Some kind of fantastic cross between Chuck Norris, God, Sean Connery, and Dirty Harry.  A bioengineered product specifically designed to save galaxies, right wrongs, and cause girls throw their panties and scream in fits of uncontrollable ecstasy. Of course women throw themselves at him.

[Melisiana]

Xalena wrote...

Melisiana wrote...

Eradyn wrote...

In ME2, it's definitely Shepard who's on the prowl with all three of them and she has to initiate the romance (although some seem...almost easier to initiate than others... *cough*Jacob*cough*).

Talking to Jacob crepped me out. Just ASKING about him made Shep give this creepy come on. Blagh. I really wish the guys would have come to you and you could accept/deny, or at least some of them depending on their character. It seems like Thane might have been one to initiate, maybe not Garrus but I would have liked to hear an "I've been interested in you" or something to that effect.

Ah, well. I can cuddle Garrus. This is all that matters.

Edit: Btw, anyone else wonder just exactly what would be "chaffed?" I can't seem to picture that right...

No because some people would start screaming how BIOWARE IS FORCING ROMANCES ON PLAYERS...blame that

I really think Bioware could just be a little more subtle about it. Well, subtle with the other character's come ons, but more blunt about your reactions. Friendliness shouldn't be confused with "make glowy eyes at me to cheesy music Liara." They definitely got the "I just want to be friends" line down with ME2.

[siltsonata]

Melisiana wrote...

Prolefeed wrote...

Well, his "out of dialogue" romance thing that he just repeats "I really want to try it with you" until you go through the Omega 4 Relay. If he was in it just for Shepard, I really doubt he'd be saying that line. And if you do break up with him, he's truly disappointed.

And it may have been just me, but when Garrus said, "Why the hell not?" I heard, "Hell yes." Shepard's a BAMF. Garrus likes BAMF, whether it comes in a soft, fleshy package with weird hair or not. Thus, Garrus likes Shepard.

I think Shepard's attraction to Garrus has the same basis. Plus trust, respect, friendship, admiration - pretty much every emotion you need to cook up a deep, lasting love.

Also, as for the sex-first thing, I think that's partly the "We may all die at the end of this mission" mentality. (Which can go two ways - in ME1, your romance options all took the "must confess all feelings now" route. In ME2, I think Garrus and Shepard are taking the "what's the point in confessing our feelings" route during their romance.)

And you have to remember; It's just not in Garrus to appease anyone. I don't think he's capable of it, not even for Shepard. I seriously doubt he'd be talking himself into having sex with her because he thinks it'll just be easier for their relationship. Particularly not when he acknowledges that if the sex goes badly it could seriously mess up their relationship.

Shepard coming on to Garrus surprises Garrrus because he just didn't ever expect her to be into aliens. Plus, he's on his whole self-loathing bender about how he's a horrible leader who got his entire squad killed, is losing his moral compass, and now has a jacked-up face to boot. Not to mention the family disowning and everything that probably happened back when Garrus first joined up with Shepard. When you're in that kind of dark place, I don't think you'd really expect anyone to be attracted to you. There are lines that show he's becoming attracted to Shepard on a physical level, though. Like "Right, cause I'm in a great place to optimize firing algorithms right now." I totally took that to mean Shepard had gotten him hot and bothered.

And once you get past the initial flirting, the "let's stay friends" response becomes the Paragon route in all the relationships. Thane, Jacob, Miranda, Jack, Garrus, and Tali. I guess having sex is just not Lawful Good.

Back to the sex-first thing: Turians seem to be even more chill about sex than humans are. Possibly because turians are better at remaining emotionally objective after having sex with people. According to Garrus, at least, casual sex is condoned by the Turian military as a way for the crew to relieve stress and stay our of serious trouble. Obviously, from the amount of stress he had over it, the sex with Shepard wasn't casual for Garrus. But he probably still doesn't want to voice any of his emotions, because that could possibly impair the mission by emotionally compromising Shepard, who needs to make objective choices as the commanding officer. And Shepard herself would most likely prefer not to repeat a Virmire situation. So it's just safer-feeing for both of them to tell themselves it is "only sex" even when they both know it's not.

I wouldn't be surprised if Garrus-mancers get a quick confirmation of far deeper feelings on both ends at the beginning of ME3.

Wow thanks a lot for responding so thoroughly. I definitely prefer your view of the relationship and I hope that you're right. In fact I get the feeling that you are. It does seem to fit, and I got the same vibe about the "right, because I'm in a great place to..." dialogue, but man does his "ew, humans" remark hit hard.

Good to know about the paragon "let's be friends" dialogue. That had been the most ominous sign for me.

I'm not totally sure about the break-up dialogue. It kind of depends when you do it (since you have so many options to<_<). If you do it after first mentioning hooking up he sounds happier with the decision, even relieved. If it's after the repeated "I want to try it with you" dialogue then I'm not sure. On the one hand he seems completely fine and unphased, but that moment of silence does make me wonder.

@jellobell That stupid smurf. She graped my first Shepard. I had to go through all of ME1 again and delay playing ME2 all because she couldn't take a hint. Still not comfortable with cougar Shep though. And that look she gets on her face...

I LOVED that look.  I laughed so hard.

[Prolefeed]

justinnstuff wrote...



Well if you romance Garrus, just remember that you need the flexibility. He has the reach.

IF YA KNOW WAT I MEAN.



Does maleShep get the option to high-five Garrus or anything after that story? That would be deeply hilarious.

[Madolin]

Prolefeed wrote...

justinnstuff wrote...

Well if you romance Garrus, just remember that you need the flexibility. He has the reach.

IF YA KNOW WAT I MEAN.

Does maleShep get the option to high-five Garrus or anything after that story? That would be deeply hilarious.

....better yet, can you high five(or three) garrus after you score with him?

[Rascality]

Prolefeed wrote...
Something to consider: Are turians more, or less flexible than humans? :innocent:

Hm.  I'd guess 'less.'  I have no actual basis for that guess except that they have the hardened plates to protect from radiation - for all that they aren't really armor, I can't imagine they don't impede movement at ALL...