3846 réponses à ce sujet

[Pannamaslo]

I just noticed that when Garrus was hit he bled blue, but dead Turian mercs (like in Okeers mission) lie in a pool of red blood. What the hell?

[aznsoisauce]

RiouHotaru, you really have a knack for writing what everyone is thinking so eloquently.

NOW FOR SOMETHING NOT SO ELOQUENT.
Forgive me. I have made some more Advice Garrus in varying degrees of unfunny.







Remember, kids, Garrus Vakarian doesn't afraid of anything.

[StaR_JeS]

LMFAO @ aznsoisauce.



Those are great. Just great. *applause*

[medlish]

Do one with "Get caught while doing coke" "Say you're in the middle of some calibrations"

[Eradyn]

OMG, this thread...you guys are full of win. XD Back to updating the OP, then (just when I thought I was finished, aznsoisauce brings more win to the table).

[enormousmoonboots]

Pannamaslo wrote...

I just noticed that when Garrus was hit he bled blue, but dead Turian mercs (like in Okeers mission) lie in a pool of red blood. What the hell?

I think there's only a few 'blood pool' textures or whatever in the game; when you shoot aliens, you often see the appropriately-colored mist, but if you're using AP rounds (and I know you people, credits to carrots you used AP rounds to match Garrus i did too) there's a giant red splash on the wall/floor behind them. Causes the interesting effect of seeing a green/brown spray animation for headshotting a salarian, then a secondary giant red splatter behind him. Garrus got hit in a cutscene, which means that his blood was a unique texture.

So humans are red, krogans orange, salarians green, turians blue, asari violet...damn, if Thane bleeds yellow we'll have a whole rainbow.

[Pannamaslo]

enormousmoonboots wrote...

Pannamaslo wrote...

I just noticed that when Garrus was hit he bled blue, but dead Turian mercs (like in Okeers mission) lie in a pool of red blood. What the hell?

I think there's only a few 'blood pool' textures or whatever in the game; when you shoot aliens, you often see the appropriately-colored mist, but if you're using AP rounds (and I know you people, credits to carrots you used AP rounds to match Garrus i did too) there's a giant red splash on the wall/floor behind them. Causes the interesting effect of seeing a green/brown spray animation for headshotting a salarian, then a secondary giant red splatter behind him. Garrus got hit in a cutscene, which means that his blood was a unique texture.

So humans are red, krogans orange, salarians green, turians blue, asari violet...damn, if Thane bleeds yellow we'll have a whole rainbow.

Thanks for clarification. Never noticed it before

[aznsoisauce]

medlish wrote...

Do one with "Get caught while doing coke" "Say you're in the middle of some calibrations"

EDIT:
I think we've had enough Advice Garrus for the day... 

Modifié par aznsoisauce, 05 février 2010 - 08:27 .

[OmbradelCerberos]

The Turians that are already dead when you see them ( like in the "Recruit Mordin" mission) all lie in a pool of blue blood.

By the way, has anybody noticed that one turian dressed in that strange lila colour in the clinic crying over another turian?

Maybe one of them is female, there are no real differencies to other turian though...

[Raoune]

"Do not ingest" is the best. Easily. XD

[ShadiestCarrot]

I am comfortable enough in my masculinity to say this - hell yes, I love Garrus!
He's kinda like the titular Iron Giant - the guy who goes through a lot of crap and is still warm-hearted and friendly afterwards. Kind of awakens the little kid in me.

Oh yeah, and he has badass battle quotes. The second he yelled 'ONE LESS TO WORRY ABOUT!' made me smile from ear to ear  Brandon Keener, I salute you!

Just my two cents. We need the G-dog back in ME3!

PS: Did anyone notice the turian in Rodam Expeditions who sounded suspiciously like MaleShep? Just saying...

Modifié par ShadiestCarrot, 05 février 2010 - 08:44 .

[Eradyn]

ShadiestCarrot wrote...

I am comfortable enough in my masculinity to say this - hell yes, I love Garrus!
He's kinda like the titular Iron Giant - the guy who goes through a lot of crap and is still warm-hearted and friendly afterwards. Kind of awakens the little kid in me.
Just my two cents. We need the G-dog back in ME3!

Succinct and true.  Garrus is probably one of the most solid, well-adjusted characters in the ME series in spite of everything he has to deal with (which is a ****-ton).  A lesser person would crumble, but he rises above it all.

[MarginalBeast]

RiouHotaru wrote...
wall-o-text

I agree with your analysis of the ME2 romances whole-heartedly!

One thing I am unsure of though is whether or not Shepard and Garrus really "did the deed" or not in the final romance scene. Because after the suicide mission, he supposedly says something like "Don't worry, I haven't forgotten what we talked about" (unless your game is bugged). That sort of implies they just had a long heart-to-heart chat before the suicide mission instead of sex. Which honestly doesn't bother me and even makes sense. I mean come on, Shepard only had roughly 2 hours before the suicide mission began. It's not like with Jacob (and to a lesser extent, Thane) where she can just hop into bed for a bit. Inter-species sex, especially with two species of such different anatomy, probably requires a lot of...preparation and problem-solving, at least for the first time, haha. It would make sense to me if Garrus and Shepard decided to wait until the mission is over to worry about that.

BUT that's my interpretation. I could be totally wrong.

[ShadiestCarrot]

Plus he has bad-ass battle quotes. The second he yelled 'ONE LESS TO WORRY ABOUT!' made me smile from ear to ear. Brandon Keener, I salute you!



PS Did anyone notice the turian in Rodam Expeditions who sounded suspiciously like MaleShep? Just saying...

[Damsel of Distress]

*applauds RiouHotaru's brilliant wall-of-text* That sums up my Shepard x Garrus feeling perfectly.


I was poking around the Citadel just now and heard on a newsflash that Sidonis had turned himself into C-Sec (I went Paragon), but they were just thinking about releasing him. I hope he really does pay Garrus back big-time in ME3.

Modifié par Damsel of Distress, 05 février 2010 - 08:54 .

[Faerlyte]

 @RiouHotaru - you really put a lot of work into those posts. I'm suitably impressed. I'll have to disagree on the point of Ashley Williams though. There are all levels of racism; really aggressive types, violent types, passive types, and the ones who try to justify how they're not when they really are. Do I think Ashley is a violent racist? No. Do I think she wants to hurt aliens because they're aliens? No. But her attempts to justify her reasoning only makes her come off as chauvinistic. 

I've played through ME1 twice in the past month so I've been getting a thorough study on Ashely William's dialog. If I'm going to dislike a character as much as I do her, then I want to make sure I've got a good reason for it and I'm not just being petty. The dialog where she basically compares sending your loyal dog to die for you to essentially using your alien allies in the same manner is very offensive. For one thing, she's talking about sacrificing your dog to save your own ass, and then comparing the aliens to a pet animal - that isn't cool. 

Grant it, from that reasoning it sounds like she'll send anyone in to die and save her own ass, which isn't really an enviable trait either, but the way it comes across is that she believes aliens should be sooner sacrificed than human lives, because they are somehow less important. I can't abide by that in any way and hearing someone try to justify that offends my sense of justice. If I'd been having that conversation in real life I'd have lit into her like no tomorrow. 

Ashely is overly aggressive and in your face, like many tough females are made to be, and I don't relate to that. She says things to people like "You're lucky the Commander is here..." to an unarmed civilian - I don't care if he's lazy or if he was smuggling crap - as a soldier whose meant to protect people, making that kind of threat to an unarmed civilian makes me wonder just what the heck she plans on doing to the poor bastard if the Commander wasn't there. I don't dig female characters who are "tough" because they yap about shooting things and threaten people - that's more about bullying than it is about being strong.

I've got another reason for my innate dislike of her character, but that's best left off the topic. She complains about bigoted people, and yet much of what she says smacks of bigotry. Not to mention, her reasons for disliking aliens are irrational at  best - she should have it in for the Alliance for being grossly unfair and ridiculous in their treatment of her family, but instead she chooses to blame aliens because it's easier to cast the blame on someone who is different I guess. 

She may not be completely inflexible or a bad person at heart - I don't believe she is, but her attitude isn't one that I'd enjoy having around either. 

As for Kaiden, his voice actor doomed him the moment I heard him speak. I remember Carth from KOTOR and it was not a fond memory. I don't know if it's the voice actor himself, but Kaiden comes across as a self-important and pompous "good" guy to me. For all his good qualities, I get a slightly condescending vibe from him whenever he's being humorous or just in regular conversation too. I can't really put my finger on it, but he always gives me a more negative feeling than a good one - just rubs me the wrong way I guess. 

That's just my take on him though. Liara I'm indifferent about. She's alright, but beyond that not very inspiring. I'm a greater fan of Samara as far as asari go - I didn't expect to like her as well as I did, but she's by far my favorite of all the asari designs, and I love the idea behind the "Justicar".

*Edited for typos.

Modifié par Faerlyte, 05 février 2010 - 09:11 .

[RiouHotaru]

Xalena wrote...

Riou is some kind of AI like EDI ))... Riou tell me do you think that Garrus romance will suffer in ME3 because we already got cutted off abit in ME2 in conversations cos of all these new romance chars in game and somehow Bioware treated ME1 LIs like main Shepard's romance. I mean it is ok that ME1 LIs get more in ME3. I feel sorry of these people who really have crush on Kaiden, Liara, Ashley and they got only that crappy reunion on Horizon but afraid that we will suffer and same will happen to us.

Well now...this is certainly an interesting topic.  Let's see then, shall we *cracks knuckles*

Re: The Future of the Mass Effect Paramour
I don't think we have anything to fear for Mass Effect 3, honestly.  Bioware would have to be incredily idiotic to sideline/reduce to cameo-status ANY of the ME2 LIs.  However, given the way they treated the Garrus relationship (as a platonic, almost non-sexual shipping) it's not completely unlikely that it remains that way.  This simply means we're have to be extra vigilant in order to make sure there's at least some confirmation of a deeper, meaningful relationship.  Now not to say that there can't be a relationship without sex, but as we know, sex is an important part of the human experience, an expression of our own love for another, a level of trust we share with another person that we want them to be with us on not just an emotional, but a physical level as well.  Bioware simply wouldn't short-change us like that.

...Not unless they want swarms of Rachni eating their HQ.

[siltsonata]

Faerlyte wrote...


I've played through ME1 twice in the past month so I've been getting a thorough study on Ashely William's dialog. If I'm going to dislike a character as much as I do her, then I want to make sure I've got a good reason for it and I'm not just being petty. The dialog where she basically compares sending your loyal dog to die for you to essentially using your alien allies in the same manner is very offensive. For one thing, she's talking about sacrificing your dog to save your own ass, and then comparing the aliens to a pet animal - that isn't cool. 

Not to keep going on an off-topic line, but I thought humanity was the dog in the metaphor? Was I the only one?

[Eradyn]

siltsonata wrote...

Faerlyte wrote...


I've played through ME1 twice in the past month so I've been getting a thorough study on Ashely William's dialog. If I'm going to dislike a character as much as I do her, then I want to make sure I've got a good reason for it and I'm not just being petty. The dialog where she basically compares sending your loyal dog to die for you to essentially using your alien allies in the same manner is very offensive. For one thing, she's talking about sacrificing your dog to save your own ass, and then comparing the aliens to a pet animal - that isn't cool. 

Not to keep going on an off-topic line, but I thought humanity was the dog in the metaphor? Was I the only one?

No, she was likening aliens to dogs with the metaphor.

[MarginalBeast]

siltsonata wrote...

Faerlyte wrote...


I've played through ME1 twice in the past month so I've been getting a thorough study on Ashely William's dialog. If I'm going to dislike a character as much as I do her, then I want to make sure I've got a good reason for it and I'm not just being petty. The dialog where she basically compares sending your loyal dog to die for you to essentially using your alien allies in the same manner is very offensive. For one thing, she's talking about sacrificing your dog to save your own ass, and then comparing the aliens to a pet animal - that isn't cool. 

Not to keep going on an off-topic line, but I thought humanity was the dog in the metaphor? Was I the only one?

It was. She gave the metaphor RIGHT after she said something along the lines of aliens wills always put themselves first.

Modifié par MarginalBeast, 05 février 2010 - 09:43 .

[Faerlyte]

MarginalBeast wrote...

siltsonata wrote...

Faerlyte wrote...


I've played through ME1 twice in the past month so I've been getting a thorough study on Ashely William's dialog. If I'm going to dislike a character as much as I do her, then I want to make sure I've got a good reason for it and I'm not just being petty. The dialog where she basically compares sending your loyal dog to die for you to essentially using your alien allies in the same manner is very offensive. For one thing, she's talking about sacrificing your dog to save your own ass, and then comparing the aliens to a pet animal - that isn't cool. 

Not to keep going on an off-topic line, but I thought humanity was the dog in the metaphor? Was I the only one?

It was. She gave the metaphor RIGHT after she said something along the lines of aliens wills always put themselves first.

No, it wasn't.

*Edit - She's using the argument that aliens will always put themselves first to justify that humans should always put themselves first as well.

But that entire reasoning is flawed. 

Modifié par Faerlyte, 05 février 2010 - 09:46 .

[jellobell]

@RiouHotaru

Wow, that's really amazing, I love your analysis on the romances, and the idea that they came in pairs. We may not have 200+ pages like the Tali thread does, but it's nice to see discussions with some substance.

I actually felt like Thane's story turned out a lot better if you didn't romance him. He has some dialogue about how he has finally found peace, coming to terms with his wife's death, reuniting with his son, and finally being able to take part in a mission to save the galaxy. Once he returns he has a few more months to spend with his son before dying, a "good death" in his own words. If he falls in love with Shepard, all his calm and acceptance of the situation goes out the window, he's once again conflicted, and I thought that that would be a terrible thing to do to the guy.

Though I am more than a little biased I genuinely thought that the Garrus romance was the only one that "worked" (for reasons you have explained better than I ever could), plus the bro-hug that Jacob gave my femshep evoked more genuine emotion than the entirety of his romance (for me at least).

Modifié par jellobell, 05 février 2010 - 10:08 .

[Madolin]

jellobell wrote...

@RiouHotaru

Wow, that's really amazing, I love your analysis on the romances, and the idea that they came in pairs. We may not have 200+ pages like the Tali thread does, but it's nice to see discussions with some substance.

I actually felt like Thane's story turned out a lot better if you didn't romance him. He has some dialogue about how he has finally found peace, coming to terms with his wife's death, reuniting with his son, and finally being able to take part in a mission to save the galaxy. Once he returns he has a few more months to spend with his son before dying, a "good death" in his own words. If he falls in love with Shepard, all his calm and acceptance of the situation goes out the window, he's once again conflicted, and I thought that that would be a terrible thing to do to the guy.

Though I am more than a little biased I genuinely thought that the Garrus romance was the only one that "worked" (for reasons you have explained better than I ever could), plus the bro-hug that Jacob gave my femshep evoked more genuine emotion than the entirety of his romance (for me at least).

After the bro-hug from Jacob, i was like, "AWESOME! Now he can be my drinking buddy!"
i would love to see him and Garrus at the bar with Shepard. :3

[Eradyn]

Madolin wrote...

jellobell wrote...

@RiouHotaru

Wow, that's really amazing, I love your analysis on the romances, and the idea that they came in pairs. We may not have 200+ pages like the Tali thread does, but it's nice to see discussions with some substance.

I actually felt like Thane's story turned out a lot better if you didn't romance him. He has some dialogue about how he has finally found peace, coming to terms with his wife's death, reuniting with his son, and finally being able to take part in a mission to save the galaxy. Once he returns he has a few more months to spend with his son before dying, a "good death" in his own words. If he falls in love with Shepard, all his calm and acceptance of the situation goes out the window, he's once again conflicted, and I thought that that would be a terrible thing to do to the guy.

Though I am more than a little biased I genuinely thought that the Garrus romance was the only one that "worked" (for reasons you have explained better than I ever could), plus the bro-hug that Jacob gave my femshep evoked more genuine emotion than the entirety of his romance (for me at least).

After the bro-hug from Jacob, i was like, "AWESOME! Now he can be my drinking buddy!"
i would love to see him and Garrus at the bar with Shepard. :3

I love Jacob as a friend of Shepard's vs being a romantic interest.  The bro-hug sealed the deal; I'd totally have a beer with him

Garrus would tag along and help Shep back to the Normandy for some one-on-one personal time as she works off her drunkeness.

[Xalena]

Thanks RiouHotaru I edited abit but nwm it is the same. I totally agree. Haha Faerlyte good signature )). I just noticed. I like long constructive posts aswell, something what can make me to think abit about things. And not just crying in half of posts how we didn't see face and such things like it is case in Tali thread )). Neither I see that anyone fight here like in Tali's thread. There is alot of haters and some people really overdose but I am sure if Bioware decide to show her face everyone will turn their back to poor Tali cos she won't be interesting, mysterious anymore. I didn't try to romance Thane, Jacob or Samara. Thane because as Jellobell said. I see Jacob more like brother. I liked that line how we will have drinks in Citadel and then that friendly move which he does with Shepard is excellent. Samara is justicar I have respect for her, great char and I felt good when I choosed friend option. Liked when she says that you are good person and she will come to aid you in the future.

Modifié par Xalena, 05 février 2010 - 10:57 .