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Anastassia wrote...
It's little wonder I gave up Kaidan for Garrus.



awwww yeah! :3

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I'm curious as to how everyone here handled Garrus's loyalty mission. At first, I had him kill Sidonis because I was upset and angry and wanted Garrus to find a measure of peace. But then, after hearing him discuss it, after hearing his reaction, he reminded me too much of Saren - to the point where a chill ran along my spine. I went back and saved Sidonis. And at that point, when Garrus spoke to me, I knew I had my old friend back.

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I talked with Sidonis for a bit, and then granted him the death he so desired by moving out of Garrus' line of sight. Selling out your squad, regardless of how scared you are, is an incredibly ****ty thing to do. Had it been Garrus in Sidonis' shoes, he would have died to protect his team. Sidonis was a coward, and I have a hard time feeling any sympathy for him.

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Anastassia wrote...

I talked with Sidonis for a bit, and then granted him the death he so desired by moving out of Garrus' line of sight. Selling out your squad, regardless of how scared you are, is an incredibly ****ty thing to do. Had it been Garrus in Sidonis' shoes, he would have died to protect his team. Sidonis was a coward, and I have a hard time feeling any sympathy for him.


I didn't feel much sympathy for Sidonis, though I understood his position.  I felt sympathy for Garrus who recedes deeper into his shell because of it.  it's really interesting how he reacts if you spare Sidonis.  He has this emotional moment where he sort of releases himself and all the negativity he's been burdened with.

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Is there a video of the Paragon ending? I couldn't bring myself to let Sidonis go both times I've played through the game now, maybe I'll do it next time.

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I didn't let him take the shot. It was difficult (because I have a similar mentality to Garrus when it comes to these sort of things, so I sympathized greatly with him), but I couldn't let Garrus do it. The way I reasoned it, it would make Garrus just as bad as Sidonis' actions: setting up a meeting and then using it to kill him. Hmmm... I wonder. I just didn't want to lose the Garrus my Shepard knew and loved to this rage-obsessed monster.



Plus when Garrus "interrogated" Harkin... granted, Harkin was an ass to begin with and it was satisfying seeing him get the tar beaten out of him, it still didn't make things right. And I think it was for the better that he didn't take the shot. He admits he still saw good in Sidonis and I have a feeling the pay off will be very good if you let him live.



Though fwiw, I played Zaeed's loyalty mission today and i can't help but suspect Garrus would have had a few choice words to say about it.

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Anastassia wrote...

Is there a video of the Paragon ending? I couldn't bring myself to let Sidonis go both times I've played through the game now, maybe I'll do it next time.


This should do it :D  

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RiotLaFontaine wrote...

This should do it :D  


Thanks! I can see what you mean about the Paragon ending, but I'm just so mad at Sidonis for hurting Garrus like that.

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When I first started Garrus' loyalty mission I was all for Sidonis being shot. I didn't let Garrus shoot Harkin, but I figured it was just so beneath him (and that headbutt was awesome!).



So when we were traveling in the cab, I decided to chat with Garrus to see where he was on things. It surprised me just how much he was sure this was the only way, and I decided I'd try to get some info from Sidonis if I had the chance. I figured that there had to be something more to the story than just Garrus' side.



So I talk to Sidonis and even though I felt he deserved to be jailed or at least hurt I felt he did not deserve to die. It was quite intense having Garrus constantly tell my FemShep to move, with her getting more information from Sidonis while protecting his life. I finally decided to not let Garrus shoot Sidonis when it came time because I believed it would not be beneficial for Garrus to do that. It'd do more harm to him than good, getting his revenge like that.

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I convinced Garrus to spare Sidonis. No way I'd let Garrus just wander down that path without trying an intervention.

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RiotLaFontaine wrote...

I'm curious as to how everyone here handled Garrus's loyalty mission. At first, I had him kill Sidonis because I was upset and angry and wanted Garrus to find a measure of peace. But then, after hearing him discuss it, after hearing his reaction, he reminded me too much of Saren - to the point where a chill ran along my spine. I went back and saved Sidonis. And at that point, when Garrus spoke to me, I knew I had my old friend back.


I stopped him from killing Sidonis. As you said, letting him go through with it continues his change into a more Saren-like person. I quite liked how throughout the mission paragon-shep can act as a kind of moral anchor for Garrus, and can help make him more like his old self. I paragon'd him in ME1 and was a bit disappointed at the changes he went through, until I got to his loyalty mission. It made me realize that Shepard's loss caused him to revert to being a bitter renegade, who went to Omega in part to vent his frustrations at a universe full of injustice. I felt that the paragon choice allowed Shepard to start "healing" him after going through two years of hell. It wasn't so much about saving Sidonis as it was about saving Garrus from becoming the same kind of individual Saren was.

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jellobell wrote...

RiotLaFontaine wrote...

I'm curious as to how everyone here handled Garrus's loyalty mission. At first, I had him kill Sidonis because I was upset and angry and wanted Garrus to find a measure of peace. But then, after hearing him discuss it, after hearing his reaction, he reminded me too much of Saren - to the point where a chill ran along my spine. I went back and saved Sidonis. And at that point, when Garrus spoke to me, I knew I had my old friend back.


I stopped him from killing Sidonis. As you said, letting him go through with it continues his change into a more Saren-like person. I quite liked how throughout the mission paragon-shep can act as a kind of moral anchor for Garrus, and can help make him more like his old self. I paragon'd him in ME1 and was a bit disappointed at the changes he went through, until I got to his loyalty mission. It made me realize that Shepard's loss caused him to revert to being a bitter renegade, who went to Omega in part to vent his frustrations at a universe full of injustice. I felt that the paragon choice allowed Shepard to start "healing" him after going through two years of hell. It wasn't so much about saving Sidonis as it was about saving Garrus from becoming the same kind of individual Saren was.


That was the point for me.

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New member here, but I thought to chime in. Its funny, I thought I was the only one that thought a FemShep/Garrus pairing would be interesting. I thought about this since ME1, cause i was kinda disappointed that FemShep only had 1 male love interest, whereas Male Shep had several of the female persuasion. I liked Garrus' story in ME1 and found his character quite intriguing.



I really kept myself in the dark concerning ME2. Once it was announced, i made sure to avoid ANY and all stories/articles/news about the game, and as well, ignored any media (images, videos, interviews), so I didn't know any of the character line-up for the game, or who was/may be returning from ME1. The only thing I knew was that Shephard would be missing.



Its funny cause the official game guide lists Garrus as not a possible love interest (its in the section about Archangel) which "saddened" me a bit. But imagine my surprise to see he actually was.



I just finished his loyalty mission, saved Sidonis, and am moving forward with the love interest aspect.



Apology to Kaidan (who was my LI in ME1).



Maybe when I start up a new game, I will not be unfaithful. ^_^




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I thought the official guide was full of crap, tbqh. Garrus is SO a romantic option, it's not even funny.



idk if they were trying to keep it a surprise (notice they don't say anything about Tali being a romantic option for Male Shepards either) or if the author didn't even give it a chance.

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Damn people, keep writing :D I like to read all these nice things and thoughts. Damn how I love this thread, so positive ^^.

I got his quest today and didn't let him to kill Sidonis...Felt abit bad but well, thought that he gonna hate me but it turned very nice, like I wanted to be <3, I let him to shoot Harkin atleast xD that dude annoyed me aswell ^^ bastard. Damn how much I want to see Garrus, alot of Garrus in ME3, whole ME3 dedicated to Garrus, if you asking me haha! x) but you know he got me kinda jealous about "turian preparations" conversation if I didn't take it wrong...lol

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So what was everyone's take on the whole "I want to be your friend" dialog option being in the paragon slot? When I first encountered it I was a little disturbed - I had saved beforehand and I wasn't sure exactly what choosing that option entailed, until I picked it, and then I was like "What? Wait, what just happened?". Makes it feel like I'm somehow taking advantage of him or something when they put the option to continue the romance in neutral position rather than paragon.

I'm probably reading too much into it, but it did catch me off guard at first. Having not pursued any of the other romantic options I don't know if they're all that way or not so I was just curious. It makes sense that if someone wanted to just befriend the character that the option would be paragon I suppose.

EDIT* To answer the earlier question, I talked Garrus out of killing Sidonis for the reasons stated above basically. I can see where Garrus was coming from and I'd be pretty ticked off too, but the whole set up just to assassinate the guy...eh, I'd get more satisfaction out of confronting the person face to face rather than a dirty job like that. It's not the right way to go about it and I Garrus' obsession with killing him needed to be nipped in the bud. 

I think he got his revenge in the end anyway - nothing like having Garrus with a sniper rifle trained on you to haunt your every day. 

Modifié par Faerlyte, 01 février 2010 - 05:37 .


#193
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Just came back to the forums after having finished. I was hiding for a while. I see some familiar faces from the non-spoilery Garrus thread - hi!



And WOW - wasn't that amazing? =3



Okay carry on haha.

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I let Sidonis live. I felt it was the only option after the conversation in the car. That wasn't Garrus talking, and I didn't want to encourage that person. JH's inflection when Shep says 'This isn't you either' just totally got to me, too.



As for the dialogue positioning, I felt the exact same way. It really annoyed me how they were placed. Apparently it was the same for the Tali romance, with the 'staying friends' option at the top. But I think it's not for the rest. Which just ticks me off. :P Shep even said she wasn't trying to pressure him!

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Aris Ravenstar wrote...

I let Sidonis live. I felt it was the only option after the conversation in the car. That wasn't Garrus talking, and I didn't want to encourage that person. JH's inflection when Shep says 'This isn't you either' just totally got to me, too.

As for the dialogue positioning, I felt the exact same way. It really annoyed me how they were placed. Apparently it was the same for the Tali romance, with the 'staying friends' option at the top. But I think it's not for the rest. Which just ticks me off. :P Shep even said she wasn't trying to pressure him!


The implication is a bit unsettling. I hope they're not planning some negative connotation for having chosen to go through with the romance. It's a bit weird to change up the dialog positioning specifically for those two. It's like they're trying to convince you that the "right" thing to do is to remain friends, as if there is some moral dilemma involved. Why do something like that?

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I love Garrus, I imagine him as Shepard's right-hand man and his partner in kicking ass. I loved when you choose him as the second team leader on the Normandy and he looks at you and gives a nod of appreciation. I felt like he was giving the respect you were giving him back.

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Okay so...all you fangirls, this budding author needs some help. I'm writing a fanfic, and I need help with a title.



It's about Garrus x FemShep, and dealing with the aftermath of their "relationship" and what they want to do with it, having beaten the Collectors to a bloody pulp (note: This fic assumes a Colonist/War Hero Paragon FemShep who blew up the Collector Base). I was thinking of going for something angelic as a tribute to his old merc nickname Archangel...but titles are always a pain for me. Some sincere suggestions would be appreciated.

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RiouHotaru wrote...

Okay so...all you fangirls, this budding author needs some help. I'm writing a fanfic, and I need help with a title.

It's about Garrus x FemShep, and dealing with the aftermath of their "relationship" and what they want to do with it, having beaten the Collectors to a bloody pulp (note: This fic assumes a Colonist/War Hero Paragon FemShep who blew up the Collector Base). I was thinking of going for something angelic as a tribute to his old merc nickname Archangel...but titles are always a pain for me. Some sincere suggestions would be appreciated.


I wish I could help, but I'm so horrendously bad at coming up with titles for my own stories that I'm afraid to even try coming up with one for yours, :blush:. If something jumps out at me I'll throw it out there though. 

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Garrus was my bro. I didn't know he was Archangel until partway through the recruitment mission, when someone mentioned that Archangel was a turian and I finally put the pieces together. He was the first person I recruited, and early on it was a real relief to have him around, just because I knew that if Cerberus proved untrustworthy I'd be able to count on someone other than the crippled pilot and the old doc. And seeing that he'd become a galaxy-class badass in my absence made me really proud. Bioware's done a great job with his character arc and I hope we see a lot more of my sniper buddy in ME3.

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Okay, going through another playthrough, I'm adding this one to my favorite Garrus lines:



"Besides, you were taking your sweet time. I needed to get you moving."



It was just freaking adorable. The warm, teasing tone in his voice when he says it makes me smile every time. ::had to replay that dialog option a few times on account of the cuteness::