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#2451
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aznsoisauce wrote...

By Duncan's well-groomed Beard, THIS.


New favorite exclamatory phrase. XD

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huh where's the turian tongue pic?

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Santiri_azz wrote...

huh where's the turian tongue pic?


Von Verrikan was nice enough to post it a few pages back - i977.photobucket.com/albums/ae254/vonverrikan/umodel2010-02-0820-10-13-32.jpg

It seems there is a lot of Kaidan hate here.  I wasn't excited over him going into ME1, but he totally won me over to the point where (until Garrus as a LI was revealed) I was determined to stay faithful to him in my main FemShep playthrough.  Of course, what with ME2 and the utterly craptastic LI that is Jacob (who is constantly compared to a "less bland" Kaidan) I am starting to wonder if I simply fell for Kaidan because I didn't have an alternative male option.  :huh:

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Tootles FTW wrote...
I am starting to wonder if I simply fell for Kaidan because I didn't have an alternative male option.  :huh:


I like Kaidan, but not as much as I did Garrus from the first game. And yes, with only Kaidan as the male option... well...ME2 was a nice change to the available options.

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I only romanced Kaidan on my very first go-through of the game to get the achievement. It wasn't until I began to like Garrus and want him as a LI did I stop romancing Kaidan with my main Shep in every replay.



But fwiw, I do like Kaidan.

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Which is clearly how he survived his gunship encounter. Magnum stops projectiles in their tracks.


Clearly! But then his face was so gash-durned impressed with its smooth missile stopping expression that it kind of just exploded from the awesome anyway. So sad.

Anyone else think that Garrus went to talk to Mordin A LOT before the romance scene? I mean, some of Mordin's lines are specifically tailored for what happened in Garrus' scene.

"Less alcohol and mood music required."

Guess who brings alcohol and mood (albeit inappropriately lulzy) music? Garrus. Who's the only one who says they "should've watched the vids"? Garrus. I don't know, maybe my fangirl goggles are on too tight (likely) but it just seems highly coincidental how Garrus is the only one that brings said items to Shepard's cabin.

Jacob does bring a nice six pack with cheese, though. *cough*

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On the matter of digitigrade legs that was being discussed earlier.

Digitigrade has to do with what part of the body comes into contact with the ground when a being walks, and bone configuration, not necessarily shape of the leg. The ankle is usually greatly extended in digitigrade creatures, and most of what we consider the foot is comprised of their toes (digits), and the balls of their feet. 

It's kind of hard with turians--in a lot of the ME1 concept art, they're shown with feet than lean more towards plantigrade (humans are plantigrade), especially the early pics of Saren. In the new artbook, Garrus is shown with a slight digitigrade stance, though he could just be poised on the balls of his feet.

Krogan, and vorcha are the only races with a pronounced digitigrade stance, by our standards. Salarians and quarians definitely have a curved shape to their legs, but they appear to have calf-like musculature below the bend where the ankle joint would be. Krogans pretty obviously have no musculature below the ankle bone--I can't find a good picture of a vorcha, but I recall them having a similar stance. Geth stalkers definitely look digitigrade, but they're machines and do not possess bones or musculature, so they don't really count.

Of course, terms likle digitigrade, plantigrade, etc. only apply to creatures from earth. So I propose that the official scientific term for aliens whose legs bend in strange ways that don't quite jive with Earth biology crazyleg stance.

TL;Dr turians have crazylegs.

And on a side note, I love their spurs. I wonder if, unsheathed, they could do some damage to soft, squishy people like Commander Shepard? I wonder how long it would take Garrus to notice if someone tied a bow to one of his?

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Meta Ray Mek wrote...

I only romanced Kaidan on my very first go-through of the game to get the achievement. It wasn't until I began to like Garrus and want him as a LI did I stop romancing Kaidan with my main Shep in every replay.


I did one ME1 playthrough sans a LI and I felt it really took away from the story.  Seeing my FemShep hanging out by her lonesome during the locker scene...it would have been nice if they included a default Friend!Kaidan or Friend!Ashley interaction, instead of just nothing.

Side-note: Does anyone know when that e-mail from Dr. Michel is triggered?  I'm on my second playthrough and I haven't gotten it yet (and either I didn't see it during my 1st run, or I never got it to begin with).  What does she say, exactly?  Looks like two b*tches are going out the airlock!  :devil:

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Garrus will snipe you when your sleeping

Garrus will snipe you when your awake

Garrus will snipe you if your bad or good so run for your own damn sake.

Garrus does this and more?

WHo disagrees?

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Umanix wrote...

Anyone else think that Garrus went to talk to Mordin A LOT before the romance scene? I mean, some of Mordin's lines are specifically tailored for what happened in Garrus' scene.


zomg I LOVE this idea.  Someone also mentioned a few pages back about Garrus questioning the human crew members in regards to Shep's attractiveness/appearance (as seen through the eyes of her own species).  Cuuute!

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Tootles FTW wrote...

Santiri_azz wrote...

huh where's the turian tongue pic?


Von Verrikan was nice enough to post it a few pages back - i977.photobucket.com/albums/ae254/vonverrikan/umodel2010-02-0820-10-13-32.jpg

It seems there is a lot of Kaidan hate here.  I wasn't excited over him going into ME1, but he totally won me over to the point where (until Garrus as a LI was revealed) I was determined to stay faithful to him in my main FemShep playthrough.  Of course, what with ME2 and the utterly craptastic LI that is Jacob (who is constantly compared to a "less bland" Kaidan) I am starting to wonder if I simply fell for Kaidan because I didn't have an alternative male option.  :huh:


ooo thks! nice parrot tongue! :devil:

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AxoneNeurone wrote...

On the matter of digitigrade legs that was being discussed earlier.

Digitigrade has to do with what part of the body comes into contact with the ground when a being walks, and bone configuration, not necessarily shape of the leg. The ankle is usually greatly extended in digitigrade creatures, and most of what we consider the foot is comprised of their toes (digits), and the balls of their feet. 

It's kind of hard with turians--in a lot of the ME1 concept art, they're shown with feet than lean more towards plantigrade (humans are plantigrade), especially the early pics of Saren. In the new artbook, Garrus is shown with a slight digitigrade stance, though he could just be poised on the balls of his feet.

Krogan, and vorcha are the only races with a pronounced digitigrade stance, by our standards. Salarians and quarians definitely have a curved shape to their legs, but they appear to have calf-like musculature below the bend where the ankle joint would be. Krogans pretty obviously have no musculature below the ankle bone--I can't find a good picture of a vorcha, but I recall them having a similar stance. Geth stalkers definitely look digitigrade, but they're machines and do not possess bones or musculature, so they don't really count.

Of course, terms likle digitigrade, plantigrade, etc. only apply to creatures from earth. So I propose that the official scientific term for aliens whose legs bend in strange ways that don't quite jive with Earth biology crazyleg stance.

TL;Dr turians have crazylegs.

And on a side note, I love their spurs. I wonder if, unsheathed, they could do some damage to soft, squishy people like Commander Shepard? I wonder how long it would take Garrus to notice if someone tied a bow to one of his?


I am of the personal opinion that the "spurs" are actually vestigial digits (think: dewclaws found on mammals, birds, and reptiles), due to turians having three digits per hand.  They have the two toes and then the vestigial spur-like "toe" on their legs.  I do wonder if they can get any modified use out of it...perhaps it helps with heat management? (Think: rat tails XD)

Well...I think I'm about finished updating the OP.  Just have to get the new Garrus Vakarian fact and then the art and then I'm (finally) finished. :D

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Tootles FTW wrote...

zomg I LOVE this idea.  Someone also mentioned a few pages back about Garrus questioning the human crew members in regards to Shep's attractiveness/appearance (as seen through the eyes of her own species).  Cuuute!


HEEEEE. That would kill me with a joy that they have no words for! The only thing that is even slightly comparable to the JOY factor that this would give me would be this gem of a brainchild:

Tootles FTW wrote...

Like a landing strip?!   Can we say "bioluminescent happy trail", people?  Image IPB


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As for Kaidan dislike: Eh, I romanced Kaidan the most on my Mass Effect playthroughs. I did realize that I was settling for less at one point, though, and on my latest playthrough was more than happy to leave him behind on Virmire. Poor Ash had been nuked in the name of pseudo romance way too many times. She earned the right to live. Plus, she just seemed like a more interesting character for my Fem!Shep to roll with. Kaidan was pretty bland in comparison.

That, and watching Kaidan's romantically involved reunion with Fem!Shep on DA 'TUBE just gave me more ammunition to draw similarities between him and Carth. I was once someone who saw little likeness between the two at all (sans the voice) but after Horizon...man, I just didn't have a leg to stand on anymore.

"You betrayed me."

Carth...is that you?

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Eradyn wrote...

I am of the personal opinion that the "spurs" are actually vestigial digits (think: dewclaws found on mammals, birds, and reptiles), due to turians having three digits per hand.  They have the two toes and then the vestigial spur-like "toe" on their legs.  I do wonder if they can get any modified use out of it...perhaps it helps with heat management? (Think: rat tails XD)


An interesting theory! That means... I wonder if he can wiggle it.

I can see it now. Shep and Garrus on a mission. They're taking a moment to stretch a bit after clearing a room. Garrus wiggles his (lovably) freakish knee-toe. Shepard drops her gun.

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I was thinking the vestigal spur on the back of there leg might be a useless addtion of the body. Like Tonsils and the appendix to a human.

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Mr Heatsink wrote...

I was thinking the vestigal spur on the back of there leg might be a useless addtion of the body. Like Tonsils and the appendix to a human.


Well, the human body does still get some use out of those organs, but I think it safe to say that they aren't "mandatory" for survival.  I think it equally safe to say that turians wouldn't be completely at a loss if they lost one or both of their vestigial digits. XD

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Eradyn wrote...

Well, the human body does still get some use out of those organs, but I think it safe to say that they aren't "mandatory" for survival.  I think it equally safe to say that turians wouldn't be completely at a loss if they lost one or both of their vestigial digits. XD


Maybe it all has to do with mating.

"Jeez, look at the size of his spurs. Maybe I need to start reading more of that junk mail I get on my extranet account"

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Just here to show my support for Garrus. He was my favorite squad member in ME1, I hope he goes on to ME3 as a squadmate and LI. :)

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Well we know that turians have junk thats true. The poin t being how would those spurs be used for mating? Maybe I need to do some "research" and find out how this works. But i guess with out the female of the speices we won't know. Still like maybe they are just bits of the turians body that eveloved unesscearliy or maybe it has to do with Palevens weak gravity as it has a metal poor core.

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Mr Heatsink wrote...

Well we know that turians have junk thats true. The poin t being how would those spurs be used for mating? Maybe I need to do some "research" and find out how this works. But i guess with out the female of the speices we won't know. Still like maybe they are just bits of the turians body that eveloved unesscearliy or maybe it has to do with Palevens weak gravity as it has a metal poor core.


Well, I didn't mean that they're necessarily part of the physical act. I meant, maybe it's some sort of trait that shows a male's prowess. Like bright colors or other things on Earth animals.

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Another banner, because you can't have too much Garrus. XD



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I never thought of that. Maybe they are used. I wonder if turians eveolved from four legged animals? If they did then maybe that would explian the spur. I'm just putting out possablities. I'm looking at my cat here. (Yes Kitty Garrus) and thats when I got the idea.

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The space race wasn't about beating the commies to the moon. It was about beating them to Garrus Vakarian.

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 :[/b] walking on the digits with the posterior of the foot more or less raised

That's the definition of digitigrade as given by merriam webster.  Now, there may be some much more specific zoological defintion but I wouldn't know about that.  I'm no zoologist after all.  I kinda like Eradyn's idea that it is something of an adapted dewclaw.  I also like the idea that's it's something only male turians have or that's it's much smaller on female turians.  I don't know why.  It would just be cool.

On another note, UH!  If Kaidan comes back at Garrus' expense I will spit red hot coals.  I hope those guys get Kaidan back and we get Garrus.  I don't want to compete, and I REALLY, REALLY don't want to lose.

I also think Garrus went to Mordin.  ( I would give my arm, my leg, and part of my soul to see THAT conversation!) The one I can't figure out is that if you hit on Jacob while the Garrusmance is on Jacob also knows about it.  I always thought the Garrus thing was kind of subtle and that the rest of the  crew didn't know until close to the suicide mission or even after (or maybe they didn't even know then.)  Do you think Garrus asked Jacob something or are we just not nearly as sneaky as we thought we were?

Modifié par Ragabul the Ontarah, 13 février 2010 - 12:46 .


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Ragabul the Ontarah wrote...
On another note, UH!  If Kaidan comes back at Garrus' expense I will spit red hot coals.  I hope those guys get Kaidan back and we get Garrus.  I don't want to compete, and I REALLY, REALLY don't want to lose.

Amen. I know that it's more than likely that one group will be left holding the bag while the other gets all the goodies but I really hope that everyone gets their way for ME3. It's the end of the trilogy, they could at least throw us all a bone right? D: