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#26
Rifneno

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Defining civilian by lack of membership in a militant organization doesn't qualify either as Circles are organized institutions that teach mages, among other things, combat skills.

 

Also Circles are(or were) used in military conflicts, though doing so between southern Thedosian nations violates Chantry doctrine. Using them as an armed force against the Qunari was historically common.

 

Even if you do count them as a militia, it said "prisoners of war OR civilian detainees."  They're clearly one of the two.  And that's hardly the only definition of a war crime.  It's just the one that fit best among the list of the most appalling war crimes.  No matter how you slice it, mass murdering a group of prisoners is the kind of thing that led to the Geneva Conventions.



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Cullen because he's the dreamiest.



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Cullen hands down. Those ladies were like snakes, not reliable.



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Even if you do count them as a militia, it said "prisoners of war OR civilian detainees."  They're clearly one of the two.  And that's hardly the only definition of a war crime.  It's just the one that fit best among the list of the most appalling war crimes.  No matter how you slice it, mass murdering a group of prisoners is the kind of thing that led to the Geneva Conventions.

 

Thing is, you don't let prisoners be armed, have huge degrees of internal control over their community, or travel around the city(and sometimes the world).

 

If it were Tranquil being slaughtered, they're basically prisoners and unarmed, war crime totally follows.

 

The situation with mages has no straight analogy in the real world. I would say the closest situation would be something like attacking an armed group that more or less runs their own country within a country, but members of the group have additional regulations applied upon them as well as armed forces dedicated to monitoring their threat level. Like a ghetto(without the poverty from the connotation) but where everyone is armed.

 

Then the external monitoring force saw what they perceived to be an attack by the group from within the ghetto, and proceeded to attack them. Cullen did accept prisoners, but his actions are not clearly immoral at the moment he is taking them. He is unaware as to whether the attack genuinely came from the Circle or not(as his commanding officer insists its from the Circle). Had the attack actually been from the Circle, attacking them would be perfectly justified. In hindsight or with perfect knowledge, we know the attack was from a rogue individual, but the intention was retaliation against what was believed at the time to be an aggressive force.



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Josephine. But Cullen was a huge surprise for me, they really built upon his character from Origins and DA2. As someone who loved Leliana in Origins it's a little upsetting to what she has become, although I love the potential outcome for her in the end.



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Toss up between Cullen and Josephine. Cullen is adorably awkward. I said some bad stuff about him before the game released because I was sick of Alistair and Templars but when I started to talk to him, I just love him to bits. He just has certain kind charm that I didn't expect. 

 

For Josephine, I have a girl crush on her, well her and Cassandra (Go figure). She is just so cute! I love her voice. She could sell me a house in the middle of a fade rift and I would take it. 



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Thing is, you don't let prisoners be armed, have huge degrees of internal control over their community, or travel around the city(and sometimes the world).

You should play DA2 sometime.

 

(I can't believe I said something so horrible.)

 

And of course, you're aware that not every mage is like ours right?  A lot of mages can barely light a candle.

 

Let them travel around?  What the blue hell are you on about?  One of the big reasons for apostates is that many will never be able to see their family again if they go to the Circle.  There's special circumstances for war heroes like the one who owned Shale, or ones of powerful families like Hawke's, but the average mage is not leaving the Circle except in a box.

 

The fact is that the Chantry took these people prisoner because of something completely out of their control, and then executed the entire lot of them for a crime they knew to be the act of a single foreign apostate.  That is mass murder, that is a war crime, that is genocide.  Every templar who took part in the right of annulment should be hung for their crimes.  Every single one.



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Cullen is the most interesting to listen to. I have nothing against Josie other than the fact I find her kind of...dull to listen to. After the second act I found myself skipping through most of her dialogue. :/



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That's a tough question. They're all so remarkable in three totally different ways, both in their personalities and the kind of help they offer as advisors.
Josie's perfect. What is there not to love?
I do love Leli, but I feel like it is mostly out of sentiment. It saddens me a little to see that she's become incredibly ruthless. There's nothing wrong with a tough lady, but I've avoided some of her suggestions at the war table because I felt they make a bully out of the Inquisition.
I was very lukewarm about Cullen in the past because he to me he was just another troubled templar. But I loved the direction they took his character in DA:I. They made really good use of his history to carve a very interesting path in his character development and how he feels about the templar order. I've been uber pro-mage from the start, so I really respect how he has realized he had served out of blind fear, and decided to completely sever ties with an order he spent most of his life with, to the point of risking his life with lyrium abstinence. Those kind of choices say alot about the kind of person he has become.

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Very close between all 3 but if I really had to go with one it would be Josephine



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Its a toss up for me between Josephine who character who I like and Cullen who has powerful scenes and who's character has majorly evolved from that shuttering Templar of DAO.



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Leliana. I'm biased towards muh waifu, though. Little sad to see how she changes.

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Cullen, of course. He consistently brought me the most throne upgrades, in addition to being my game husbando. Every girl loves gifts. ;)

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This is strange perhaps to some who loved Leliana in DAO, because I also loved her in DAO but I always thought of her "true" internal character to be the way she is now in Inquisition. In other words, in Origins she was just "looking for herself", trying to understand her own nature, her identity, almost like an adolescent, she was a bit too naive in Origins at times (Morrigan often reminded her but of course Leli would just try to comfort herself by replying something soft and girlry-girly, I'm-seeing-the-world-with-glasses-made-out-of-roses).

 

In Inquisition I feel that the Leliana we're seeing is the blossomed one, the true Leliana. In Halamshiral the Inquisitor comments to her directly about how she seems "different" than back at Skyhold, and Leliana replies something along the lines of "It's The Game...". And more to it, I don't recall the whole reply, but essentially she puts on a mask even though she does seem to be more in line with her Origins' demeanor at that point, which leads me to believe that indeed in Origins she was wearing a mask but she herself wasn't fully aware of it yet. In Inquisition she accepts who she is. Additionally, during the Mage support arc, in the future part she sacrifices herself, and back at Skyhold eventually you can have a conversation with her, in which you tell her how she was in that future, and instead of perhaps being "surprised" of her actions, she understands why her future self did it and even replies that she'd do the same again (which does cement in my book how Leliana is fully "herself" now and understands her own true nature and merely accepts it and "lives with it because that's herself").

 

I'm saying all of this because - to me anyway - Leliana in Inquisition seems more mature, more "aware of herself", less innocent.

 

And, I do like her as an Adviser, but I like all three anyway because they're specialized to their own "profession", their own tactics. We have Cullen who prefers a direct approach, he's the usual "military guy", just as Josy puts it in Haven if you ask about her opinions on the others, she replies that indeed Cullen sometimes can appear like a hammer to whom all problems turn out to be a nail (or something like that). But that's fine, that's Cullen's job, his specializtion, he wouldn't know (or "know well enough") on how to approach problems with "other" types of solutions. As for Josephine, well, she's a diplomat from the inside out, so she approaches situations with elegance, politeness, tact... and more importantly, words (but words that aren't wasted and are used for the task at hand). And Leliana is the spymaster, her solutions involve "the shadows", being subtle, secrecy, deception, and for more extreme problems; lies or assassination (she'd do it herself without hesitation if necessary).

 

I for one like them all for different reasons when presented with different types of problems. If I need a settlement, village, trade road guarded I'll ask Cullen to send troops. If I need anything solved that revolves around nobles, kings, queens, princesses, or if I need an alliance be done or a trade agreement... I'll ask Josephine. And if I need some lost artifact be found "discretely", if I need to track down someone, if I need a subtle approach to avoid direct association with the Inquisition, if I need "someone dealt with" specifically, then I'll ask Leliana. All those problems show up eventually sooner rather than later during the entirety of the game's duration, and all three Advisers can be (and are) used. So all three are useful for their own purposes.

 

Now as far as my favorite goes due to their own individual personalities... I don't know. The thing is they're on duty at the war table, they're not taking a break. It's like you, in real life, at work, are you the same person at work when compared to when you're back home? Perhaps, or maybe not (maybe you think you are, and you aren't because you'd need someone else to tell you to realize it). I honestly think that I do like them all equally. I do understand, however, how some people think that Leliana seems to be "darker" or at least less "lovely" than she was in Origins, but back in Origins I for one always felt that she wasn't her true self anyway. Still, I admit, I loved her in Origins nonetheless... and love her the same in Inquisition.



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Cullen's personality made a 180 in Inquisition, I like his new self but still hate the old DA:O/DA2 personality, Josephine's accent is just aahhhhh *shivers* please talk to me for the rest of my life, thanks + she's totally adorable! And Leli... well... I don't know... she's my Warden's BFF, only redeeming factor, really.

So it's a tie between Josie and Cullen, really.

EDIT: strategic/gameplay wise I preferred Josie and Leli. Didn't like Cullens "GUHR DUHR HUR LETS STAB IT" solutions.



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You should play DA2 sometime.

 

(I can't believe I said something so horrible.)

 

And of course, you're aware that not every mage is like ours right?  A lot of mages can barely light a candle.

 

Let them travel around?  What the blue hell are you on about?  One of the big reasons for apostates is that many will never be able to see their family again if they go to the Circle.  There's special circumstances for war heroes like the one who owned Shale, or ones of powerful families like Hawke's, but the average mage is not leaving the Circle except in a box.

 

 

 

 

It looks like you simply haven't been paying very close attention.

 

We have documented instances of mages being allowed to travel, from apprentice level and above, around Thedas without templar supervision. Now it becomes clear that at some rank around Senior Enchanter that they can go for such extended periods of time that they wouldn't be considered legal residents of the district in which the Circle resides in our world(we meet one of these Senior Enchanters in Awakening).

 

This travel is subject to the whims of the First Enchanter however, whose consent is needed for a mage to leave the tower, for a Harrowing to occur, or for mages to be made Tranquil.

 

Now its not like templars have no method of finding them should something go wrong, phylacteries have been gone over on a number of occasions.

 

 

Military Force A believes its under attack from Military Force B(turns out Military Force A is wrong, but it wasn't an unreasonable assumption at the time since what Anders executes is magic of greater power than anything we had seen to that point, so the involvement of multiple mages and a great deal of lyrium or blood magic would naturally be suspected) and retaliates immediately. A misunderstanding sure, but not a misunderstanding out of the blue, it was a misunderstanding a third party(Anders) was attempting to create.



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Cullen for the reason of his mission notes after you judge the remains of Florianne.

"It's not like we're going to put her head on a pike...
(Sigh)
You want her head on a pike."


Then the completion is something like

"Great. Now I have a soldier whose sole job is to wave it around in people's faces"

Laughed so hard.
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#43
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Cullen.  And me romancing him has nothing to do with it.  Maybe.  :ph34r:

 

There was a lot of character growth on his part.  He's a determined and practical individual, and I found myself agreeing with him most of the time.  But, I think I used all three advisers pretty equally across the board concerning war table missions. 

 

But, seriously, I liked all three of them to be honest.  They all contributed in some way.  Josephine felt like she was someone you could relate to, or someone the Inquisitor could relate to.  She's put into this huge, unexpected situation and a lot is put on her shoulders.  It's similar to what happened to the Inquisitor.  Also, I loved her quirkiness.  Even though I found Leliana annoying and rather scary sometimes, she added a lot.  It was extremely interesting when she was saying she wanted to be the Divine.  I'm like, "No way in hell!"  Haha, she was way too bitter and hardened.



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Leliana hands down, but then she is one of the best characters in DA so far, second only to Morrigan in my opinion.



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Definitely Leliana. I had my doubts about her returning but I think she was handled really well.



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Morrigan > Cullen > Josie > Leliana

 

Morrigan turns into a dragon and almost dies in the last fight. She's reliable, cunning and witty as ever. That and she has some really heartfelt moments. Cullen is just such a good commander, I adore his personality. He's always got your back. Josie is simply wonderful, but lacks some heartfelt moments and involvement I feel. Leliana stays an ice-queen for most of the game and only really returns to her right self at the end, and that is why she is last. Her character arc is understandable, but as the inquisitor you never really get the same intimacy with her as you do as the Hero of Ferelden.