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When can you craft +guard?


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AVIVA

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When can you craft a weapon with +guard on hit, the soonest?

 

Im thinking of making a rogue but i want to make him a bit more survivable



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As soon as you arrive to Skyhold. You just need to have the daft hands perk and acquire dagna, then you can find fade touched obsidian in redcliff under a closed door. It is the earliest masterwork craft you can make, actually.

P.S: you can either use the inventory glitch to have as much fade touched obsidian as you want (so you don't need to "waste" it in early equipment). It is up to you if you want to use it or not.


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Made a list of all the Mastercraft items in the game. Here it is: http://forum.bioware...tercraft-items/

From GhoXen at the Attributes Theorycrafting Thread. http://forum.bioware...-testing/page-8

 

Tier 1:

Fade Touched Lambwool 2 guard on hit. 

Fade Touched Onyx 2 guard on hit

 

Tier 2:

Fade Touched Obsidian 3 guardon hit

 

 

Tier 3:

Fade Touched Silverite 5 guard on hit

 

Lambswool and Onyx can be found in the Hinterlands. Tier 2 schematics can also be found in Hinterlands. So you could get a Tier 2 masterwork weapon with 2 guard on hit as early as level 3. 

 

Realistically, though, you can get it after skyhold as all the areas you need are open. Hinterlands and Storm Coast are filled with Tier 1 schematics and materials, and tier 2 schematics are rather rare. I am unsure if there even is tier 1 masterwork schematics.. I have yet to see one!

Material-wise you need to get lucky, or spend a long time farming. I am a bit unsure how getting fade touched metals work, but I think it's just a chance each time you "mine"/gather a mineral node.



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As soon as you arrive to Skyhold. You just need to have the daft hands perk and acquire dagna, then you can find fade touched obsidian in redcliff under a closed door. It is the earliest masterwork craft you can make, actually.

P.S: you can either use the inventory glitch to have as much fade touched obsidian as you want (so you don't need to "waste" it in early equipment). It is up to you if you want to use it or not.

 

Two questions:

  1. Daft hands to open the locked door in Redcliffe?
  2. What's the inventory glitch process?


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Two questions:

  1. Daft hands to open the locked door in Redcliffe?
  2. What's the inventory glitch process?

 

 

1. Deft hands (I did a typo before, sorry) is an inquisition perk (inside secrets). There are two doors on the Redcliffe area that's locked and you can open them only if you have that perk. Behind one of those there's a chest with fade touched obsidian
2. Take only the item you want (fade touched obsidian in this case) in the chest but leave the others inside. Exit area, return. The item you took will respawn. I don't know if this glitch will get resolved so in case you want to use it do it now, as it can work anymore after patching.


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Daft hands! Haha, sounds like it would fumble locks. The ft obsidian is in the locked house closest to the inn. You can just get it, walk in the inn and out, and get it again, wash rinse repeat

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Is it worth to put +guard on hit in Tanks weapon ?

I dont know why, but Cassandra like to hit enemies even though i put Shield Wall preferred on Tactics

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Not really. Guard on hit isn't very efficient on a slow hitter. And a tank can generate enough guard without it! I'd rather get 1% health on hit on the tank.

The only classes i see benefit guard on hit are: DW rouges and Mages. Simply because they can hit very rapidly (Energy barrage = a lot of guard!).