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[Lebanese Dude]

And which assumptions were made? You admitted that you aren't playing the game because you're busy with school... I put over 70 hours into the game. I did mention it played like a singleplayer mmo.

 

 You're still defending a game that you admit that you aren't even playing.

 

More ad hominem!  You're still trying to discredit me with "You haven't played the game" when I simply said I am not playing it at the moment. I've already put in 50 hours but I can't afford to do more. Do you need proof of that too or something? Get over yourself lmao.

 

Your multiplayer aspects can be found in the multiplayer mode, which includes microtransactions in a full retail priced release. Of course, that's not our topic.

 

 

We're talking about the bulk of the game (SP) that includes your dreaded fetch quests here. Nice strawman. Glad you realized it though.

 

 If anything, you're using the false-consensus as it is, as usual, severely understated given the number of people that aren't voicing their opinion. Most people simply trade in, uninstall or refuse to purchase that which they don't like.

 

Similarly, a lot of people aren't voicing their opinion on the game on completion. Why are you assuming that those that like it necessarily talk about it?

 

We're discussing this in the scope of "what is on the internet". There is no consensus, but there's a clear divergence in responses. Check out Reddit, GS forums, or anywhere else and see for yourself.

 

You seem adamant to paint a consensus that people view the game as an MMO when there is none. Quit it.

[Scerene]

why should s/he quit it? go to gamespot or metacritic, you can accuse people of trolling on meta all you want but half of those user reviews repeat the exact same thing, mmo style fetch quests, boring filler, boring gameplay, boring combat, mmo feel,terrible pc controls etc, terrible optimization. There is definitely a large consensus that people view at as an mmo, even on this very forum   I mean look around you, there are people making threads about it and mentioning their take on it in other threads. The most common complaint being mmo style fetch quests, pointless collecting, terrible pc controls and poor optimization. Everyone i know irl says it feels like a single player mmo, with boring gameplay and boring quests. Btw you do know that mark darrah told gamespot that it was meant to be an online only game? Well it shows  I decided to make a rogue out of curiousity, and now i understand what people mean by dreadful controls. Ive been playing mage this whole time so ive only had to hold the right mouse button and occasionally click one or two other buttons, but boy oh boooy are the controls for melee dreadful. Combat and questing in DAI manages to make the average korean mmo seem exciting in comparison.  I had more fun playing archeage than i do DAI.  Also, PC game for pc gamers?   terrible performance, messes up people's hardware and the worst pc controls ive ever endured. Also seriously, this leba dude hasnt even played the game and he is flapping his gums about what it is and isnt?  (havent read through the entire thread yet) 

[Scerene]

Gamespots user review are fine. Its only metacritic with the user review trolling. And it is indeed trolling. There were countless, and I mean countless, 0 score reviews just hours after this game was released. It shows how petty and self absorbed the pc master race is. If they dont get thier way, they bombard metacritic in order to ruin a company's reputation. Outside of this forum, the feedback has been immensely positive. Its just this forum, and it will always be this forum. The bioware social network has always been like this. The people here will never be happy. You should have seen the feedback here when ME2 was released, this place is just toxic. This forums opinion means zilch and its meant zilch since Jade Empire. I repeat, this forum turns extremely negative after EVERY DAMN RELEASE! Bioware can never do right anymore, and this forum was a mess after DA:O to, peoples rose colored glasses blind them to that fact.

 Why dont you go on an actual game forum and see how people are viewing this game, its immensly positive. Also, all of my friends love this game. Annecdotal evidence means squat. 

lol so because some people decided to troll suddenly everybody does, clearly none of those reviews that repeat the same thing over and over have anyyyyy substance to them. Yea giving the game a 0 review is exaggeration, but the things they point out, however are not.

[Lebanese Dude]

*snip comedy gold mine*

Thank you for rehashing all the fallacies presented throughout the thread into a nice little summary. Considering you're the thread creator it was only appropriate.

 

[Scerene]

Gamespots user review are fine. Its only metacritic with the user review trolling. And it is indeed trolling. There were countless, and I mean countless, 0 score reviews just hours after this game was released. It shows how petty and self absorbed the pc master race is. If they dont get thier way, they bombard metacritic in order to ruin a company's reputation. Outside of this forum, the feedback has been immensely positive. Its just this forum, and it will always be this forum. The bioware social network has always been like this. The people here will never be happy. You should have seen the feedback here when ME2 was released, this place is just toxic. This forums opinion means zilch and its meant zilch since Jade Empire. I repeat, this forum turns extremely negative after EVERY DAMN RELEASE! Bioware can never do right anymore, and this forum was a mess after DA:O to, peoples rose colored glasses blind them to that fact.

 Why dont you go on an actual game forum and see how people are receiving this game, its immensly positive. Also, all of my friends love this game. Annecdotal evidence means squat. 

btw it has nothing to do with bioware not being able to please everybody. They would have pleased many people just fine, if they werent lying through their teeth. They said main quest was 50-60 hours,  very false. They said the game would have interesting area specific storylines,meaningful "choices", very false. They said that there would be keeps that would be customizable, false.They said that it was a pc game made for pcs, very very false. They said they wanted to go back to more DAO style, very false. They said game has 40 endings, false. The list goes on and on

[Scerene]

 

Please. Any post of yours I reply to has been stooped in hyperbole and exaggeration. That you have failed to actually back up your claims with anything but conjecture and over-simplifications just goes to show how much of a troll you have been since the game was launched. That you fail to see the irony of you being present in every thread I am in paints you in the same "obsessive" brush you keep gawking about.

Having to resort to attacking your opponent's character and "life choices" goes to show how desperate your replies have become.

 

State your opinions regarding the content as they are without framing them in B.S.

Lol youre lack of self-awareness is quite staggering. You are obsessively defending a game, based on your own conjecture and over simplification, that you know nothing about, havent played, and using silly pictures and hyperbole to get your point across without any evidence to back up your case, and youve been doing it ever since the game was released. Yes, you most certainly fail to see the irony.

[shinrahunter]

I'm with the OP on this. Whilst I am enjoying the game because it has elements of the Dragon Age series in it, it certainly doesn't FEEL like a Dragon Age game.
The series was always about strong character building and storyline progression, this open world environment they've gone for is far too Skyrim-ish for me to really enjoy.
I'm not saying Skyrim is a bad game, just that it doesn't hold my interest. DA"I is suffering from the same issues, endless collecting of 'stuff', no sense of urgency to continue with the main plot and really, no major exposition on things to the point I'm at (got to Skyhold)

 

The war table feels like it doesn't have any impact on things, my character being th eleader of teh inquisition doesn't seem to fit with what you're tasked with in the game, I mean, I'm an agent, not a leader. Why would a leader have to go complete thes menial tasks?

The characters also don't feel as interesting this time around. Cassandra is intrigueing but she's really the only one besides Leliana (but she doesn't seem to have much to offer either)

[Scerene]

This will definitely please Lebanese Dude...

 

Receipts please.

 

(it means source)

as if i give a rats too too, what somebody with the self-awareness and rhetorical abilites of a dead rat thinks. There are articles on gamespot and other places on the web to back my claims up, ive devoured every bit of info i could on this game.

[Scerene]

youre assuming you are important enough that im invested in proving something to you, well dear, you most certainly are not. i couldnt care less, what you want to see.

[Majestic Jazz]

I hope Mass Effect 4 does not follow the same formula as DAI.

[Majestic Jazz]

When you begin an argument by claiming something you cant back up, it looks bad on your end. But you don't care what I think so just ignore this then.

Who?

[Majestic Jazz]

Mass Effects side quests were pretty fantastic so if they take DAIs openness and ME2s style of side quests, I'd be a very happy camper.

But they are not going to do that if DAI is to be an example. They sacrificed a lot of quality content that requires cinematics for the quantity of dialog and quest.

[FKA_Servo]

But they are not going to do that if DAI is to be an example. They sacrificed a lot of quality content that requires cinematics for the quantity of dialog and quest.

 

More like they just didn't fix the camera on whoever is talking. I'm not sure those count as cinematics.

[keyip]

why should s/he quit it? go to gamespot or metacritic, you can accuse people of trolling on meta all you want but half of those user reviews repeat the exact same thing, mmo style fetch quests, boring filler, boring gameplay, boring combat, mmo feel,terrible pc controls etc, terrible optimization. 

 

Half the reviews on there are obviously from people who don't own the game and/or have no interest in posting a serious review. They have ulterior motives and thus people don't pay attention to them. Once again it's a classic example of how "user reviews" are no better than "published reviews."

[The Loyal Nub]

I see a thread in desperate need of a moderators visit.

[Scerene]

Sorry, that was meant for @ Scerene.

and of course you are the first to come to lebanese defence, it seems only things you disagree with need to be backed up and "proven". What proof do you or lebanese have for the things you argue? Why is the burden of proof on me and not you or leba? Hell leba hasnt even played the game but  insists on spamming every page, and/or thread related to the topic with flamboyant nonsense and throwing around "conjecture" and other "fancy" words out of context every other sentence to add weight to an argument where there is none. You mentioned him like some big authority i need to answer to even though neither you nor he provide anything of substance to your own arguments, so please.  

[ORTesc]

Half the reviews on there are obviously from people who don't own the game and/or have no interest in posting a serious review. They have ulterior motives and thus people don't pay attention to them. Once again it's a classic example of how "user reviews" are no better than "published reviews."

 

Oh please. I have no idea why it's so hard for people here to admit the game has issues. It's honestly like trying to pry the ring for golem's hands. The lengths that people are going to defend Bioware here is astounding. And those that state an opinion are trolls apparently?

 

I see a thread in desperate need of a moderators visit.

 

Why is that? Because people disagree with your opinion? Silence the heretics!

[Majestic Jazz]

More like they just didn't fix the camera on whoever is talking. I'm not sure those count as cinematics.

Something similar to the camera used for the companion conversations aboard the Normandy in Mass Effect 1. At least that "brings you in" closer to the conversation, allowing you to easily be immersed instead of thr detached feeling I get from the DAI "over the back" camera angle.