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[Scerene]

Oh please. I have no idea why it's so hard for people here to admit the game has issues. It's honestly like trying to pry the ring for golem's hands. The lengths that people are going to defend Bioware here is astounding. And those that state an opinion are trolls apparently?

 

 

Why is that? Because people disagree with your opinion? Silence the heretics!

yes, the thread wasnt in need of moderation until somebody came along to shut leba up, who has been flamboyantly insulting everybody in the thread for pages upon pages. Look id like it if we all were to just keep it civil. With as little cattiness, and lame picture posting from both sides   

[keyip]

Oh please. I have no idea why it's so hard for people here to admit the game has issues. It's honestly like trying to pry the ring for golem's hands. The lengths that people are going to defend Bioware here is astounding. And those that state an opinion are trolls apparently?

 

I have no qualms in stating the game has issues. I do get sick of juvenile whining though. I don't get this modern day thing where people have to constantly whine at businesses. I'm old fashioned and like to vote with my wallet... without going on and on about how I'm voting with my wallet.

 

Also, did I state they were trolls? I don't like the term because the current definition means anything and everything. I do mean the user reviews are untrustworthy though, that's pretty obvious. Defending them is equally as ridiculous as the people you like to lambaste for defending Bioware.

[FKA_Servo]

Something similar to the camera used for the companion conversations aboard the Normandy in Mass Effect 1. At least that "brings you in" closer to the conversation, allowing you to easily be immersed instead of thr detached feeling I get from the DAI "over the back" camera angle.

 

The funny thing is that I recall the ability to move the camera during cutscenes as being something the the more hardcore camp was asking for, once upon a time.

 

Would be nice if you could choose - for example, lock on to the NPC your talking to to have the camera zoom into an over the shoulder perspective or something. It's not something that really bothers me all that much.

[The Loyal Nub]

Why is that? Because people disagree with your opinion? Silence the heretics!

 

I personally could care less whether you do or do not. You're free to dislike the game all you want. However the lack of civility in the discussion I saw on that page coupled with the hysterical (in a non-comedy...well maybe comedy) manner in which they were being posted (see bolded part) lead to my comment. 

[Scerene]

I personally could care less whether you do or do not. You're free to dislike the game all you want. However the lack of civility in the discussion I saw on that page coupled with the hysterical (in a non-comedy...well maybe comedy) manner in which they were being posted (see bolded part) lead to my comment. 

where has youre civility "policing" been when leba was harrassing ORtesc or throwing around insults with pictures in every post?  The entire thread is littered with that crap

[keyip]

Let's not bring up who started it, because in my opinion it was Ferdango's trolling.

[Scerene]

Yes its quite pointless at this point to continue squabbling. The game has issues, both major and minor. It is what it is. It remains to be seen where bioware intends to go from this, and how many will follow. Hopefully the customers they gain will outweigh the ones they lose. In spite of everything its still been my favorite rpg making company and i dont want to see them go.

[Tsunami Chef]

Illogical is your opinion, especially when the same opinions continue to be voiced on a daily basis. Mine is that you're defending a game that you aren't playing, as you admit. You've been responding to and defending against anything negative on this website since the game launched.

Lmao...so this forum should be 100% people complaining? Ever think people aren't playing because it's been out for 2/3 of a month and most people don't spend every free moment of their life playing a video game.

 

The thing you guys keep turning on us is that we are against the detractors having an opinion...we're not, but i think most people are against detractors coming on here as if their opinion is fact and then acting like anyone who disagrees with them is an idiot and doesn't understand how much a fetch questing PoS this is.

 

Some people don't think it. Some people think this game had a **** load of quality content, some interesting sidequests (certainly just as much as Origins IMO), and some utterly boring ones (hey, just like origins?).

 

Can some of you highlight some great sidequests in DA:O?

 

The ones I've seen mentioned over and over are

 

Dagna quest: Which is even less than a fetch quest. It is a talk to someone, then talk to someone else, then return quest without doing anything quest. Is this good quest design? Dagna also had more dialogue in DA:I, as well as a war table mission. So does this count as a side quest for DA:O and not DA:I despite her having more impact and more dialogue in DA:I?

 

Blacksmiths daughter quest: Again...you talk to the blacksmith, and then while doing another mainquest you nonchalantly save his daughter. Is this good quest design?

 

Ruck: You run into the insane guy and then return to his mom...again, great quest design.

 

Gheyna: You get the chance to **** this guys dream girl and not do the quest, or do a fetch quest so he can be with her. Another epic quest design from the pinnacle of gaming DA:O.

 

I'd be completely fine with the amount of hatred and criticism DA:I gets if the same people weren't fangasming over DA:O like it didn't have just as boring fetch quests. The opinions don't bother me, that alternate history that is used to justify these opinions does.

[keyip]

I view this game as Bioware's "Oblivion." They've tried to radicially modernise their gameplay and they've changed or reverted a lot of their design goals, and that's caused a lot of problems. Some can be patched, others will have to be fixed for the next game. Bioware went from massive open-world games, to smaller/linear/narrative based stuff, and now they're trying to to go back to open world. But the industry has moved on from Baldur's Gates' time so they're having to figure a lot of stuff out by themselves. 

[ORTesc]

Yes its quite pointless at this point to continue squabbling. The game has issues, both major and minor. It is what it is. It remains to be seen where bioware intends to go from this, and how many will follow. Hopefully the customers they gain will outweigh the ones they lose. In spite of everything its still been my favorite rpg making company and i dont want to see them go.

 

Honestly, maybe it's time they go. Bioware hasn't been the same since ME2... maybe even Origins. They're just a division of EA now, it's all about action and flashy stuff. "Artistic masterpiece" and all that. Maybe one day the good doctors will make another studio and not sell out this time. The RPG genre isn't dead, but publishers like EA sure are doing their best to kill it. We all knew this was going to happen when EA bought out Bioware.

[keyip]

Honestly, maybe it's time they go. Bioware hasn't been the same since ME2... maybe even Origins. They're just a division of EA now, it's all about action and flashy stuff. "Artistic masterpiece" and all that. Maybe one day the good doctors will make another studio and not sell out this time. The RPG genre isn't dead, but publishers like EA sure are doing their best to kill it. We all knew this was going to happen when EA bought out Bioware.

 

No. Maybe YOU don't like the studio anymore but trying to close it down because it no longer conforms to your entertainment desires is just selfish.

[ORTesc]

I view this game as Bioware's "Oblivion." They've tried to radicially modernise their gameplay and they've changed or reverted a lot of their design goals, and that's caused a lot of problems. Some can be patched, others will have to be fixed for the next game. Bioware went from massive open-world games, to smaller/linear/narrative based stuff, and now they're trying to to go back to open world. But the industry has moved on from Baldur's Gates' time so they're having to figure a lot of stuff out by themselves. 

 

All they had to do was make more games like Origins. The game went tripple platinum, it was highly successful. I'll never understand why the decision was made to change what worked. You're not Bethesda. You're not making Call of Duty. Stick to making excellent RPGs.

[ORTesc]

No. Maybe YOU don't like the studio anymore but trying to close it down because it no longer conforms to your entertainment desires is just selfish.

 

I'm personally trying to close them down? What? I stated an opinion. Seriously dude.

[FKA_Servo]

All they had to do was make more games like Origins. The game went tripple platinum, it was highly successful. I'll never understand why the decision was made to change what worked. You're not Bethesda. You're not making Call of Duty. Stick to making excellent RPGs.

 

In the meantime, there are lots of people here who have been playing Bioware's games for going on 15 years who are nevertheless very pleased with the way Inquisition has turned out. More, I suspect, than the hysterical haters shitlording all over the forum. I certainly regard this game as a return to form for them.

 

I'm personally trying to close them down? What? I stated an opinion. Seriously dude.

 

It's a ridiculous opinion, and a silly thing to say.

[keyip]

I'm personally trying to close them down? What? I stated an opinion. Seriously dude.

 

"Maybe it's time for them to go" is definitely NOT your call to make. Bethesda's owners left after Morrowind, they then shifted their design philosophies radically and shed most of their long time users. Became more "casual", more "action oriented". A lot of people were saying they should shut then, but to their disappointment their sales keep getting stronger.

 

Blizzard shed the company who made Diablo after Diablo 2. Most of their fanbase said they should give up on the franchise, they were "diluting" it. Need I say what happened with Diablo 3.

 

The fanbase is changing and Bioware's trying to stay ahead of the curve. That means they'll be willingly shedding long time users in their hunt for newer fans and that magic 10million number. It's what the AAA RPG companies are looking to do, people looking for old-fashioned gameplay need to look at the Indie market. That doesn't mean Bioware "should go", though.

[Tsunami Chef]

In the meantime, there are lots of people here who have been playing Bioware's games for going on 15 years who are nevertheless very pleased with the way Inquisition has turned out. More, I suspect, than the hysterical haters shitlording all over the forum. I certainly regard this game as a return to form for them.

 

 

It's a ridiculous opinion, and a silly thing to say.

Exactly...I view this among the best games they've ever made, certainly the best game they've made since ME2.

[ORTesc]

In the meantime, there are lots of people here who have been playing Bioware's games for going on 15 years who are nevertheless very pleased with the way Inquisition has turned out. More, I suspect, than the hysterical haters shitlording all over the forum. I certainly regard this game as a return to form for them.

 

And anyone who doesn't share that regard are either "haters" or "trolls", right?

 

This is exactly what I've been talking about for a week now. Silence the heretics! Heathens! My... precious.

[FKA_Servo]

And anyone who doesn't share that regard are either "haters" or "trolls", right?

 

This is exactly what I've been talking about for a week now. Silence the heretics! Heathens! My... precious.

 

Not everyone. The ones who are are pretty easy to spot, though.

[Tsunami Chef]

And anyone who doesn't share that regard are either "haters" or "trolls", right?

 

This is exactly what I've been talking about for a week now. Silence the heretics! Heathens! My... precious.

You just made a post questioning if someone really liked the game since they were taking the time to post that they liked it on the forum. You are one of the most disingenuous hypocritcal troll posters i've seen in a while.

[ORTesc]

"Maybe it's time for them to go" isn't definitely NOT your call to make. Bethesda's owners left after Morrowind, they then shifted their design philosophies radically and shed most of their long time users. Became more "casual", more "action oriented". A lot of people were saying they should shut then, but to their disappointment their sales keep getting stronger.

 

Blizzard shed the company who made Diablo after Diablo 2. Most of their fanbase said they should give up on the franchise, they were "diluting" it. Need I say what happened with Diablo 3.

 

The fanbase is changing and Bioware's trying to stay ahead of the curve. That means they'll be willingly shedding long time users in their hunt for newer fans and that magic 10million number. It's what the AAA RPG companies are looking to do, people looking for old-fashioned gameplay need to look at the Indie market. That doesn't mean Bioware "should go", though.

 

Dude when did I say it was my call to make? I stated an opinion.

 

a view or judgment formed about something, not necessarily based on fact or knowledge.

 

Fanbase isn't changing. Fanbase is the same as it's always been. Some people like more action oriented games. Some like RPGs. Some like point and click games. Some like Mario. That's why we have genres. This isn't some new age culture change. People didn't suddenly say "oh let's go bash our head on the controller".

[ORTesc]

You just made a post questioning if someone really liked the game since they were taking the time to post that they liked it on the forum. You are one of the most disingenuous hypocritcal troll posters i've seen in a while.

 

I'm a hypocritical troll now!

[Natureguy85]

I'm a hypocritical troll now!

 

Just say that this is the best game ever, that every change is great, and that all games from now on should be like this one. Then they will all love you and you'll be at peace.

[SadisticChunkyDwarf]

I have no qualms in stating the game has issues. I do get sick of juvenile whining though. I don't get this modern day thing where people have to constantly whine at businesses. I'm old fashioned and like to vote with my wallet... without going on and on about how I'm voting with my wallet.

 

Pretty much this for me too. In context though, I come from an era in gaming like in original EQ and SWG where they just gave you a knife/blaster and turned you loose upon the world with no direction and no real obvious rules about what can or can't be done and let you figure it out on your own. The handbooks were either minimal or full of outright misinformation and lies even directly after launch. The people around you were cool and helped you out, be it on forums or in the actual game.

 

We played them and we loved them, few complained, they just wanted help or to know more than what they already know. Now if everything is not horribly transparent at launch or the "hardcore fans" don't feel like they're directly involved in development they have throw a spastic fit. Quite sad if you ask me, but that's just MHO.

[ORTesc]

Pretty much this for me too. In context though, I come from an era in gaming like in original EQ and SWG where they just gave you a knife/blaster and turned you loose upon the world with no direction and no real obvious rules about what can or can't be done and let you figure it out on your own. The handbooks were either minimal or full of outright misinformation and lies even directly after launch. The people around you were cool and helped you out, be it on forums or in the actual game.

 

We played them and we loved them, few complained, they just wanted help or to know more than what they already know. Now if everything is not horribly transparent at launch or the "hardcore fans" don't feel like they're directly involved in development they have throw a spastic fit. Quite sad if you ask me, but that's just MHO.

 

Yep and back in my day ice cream was a nickel. Kids these days with their opinions and what not. Bah.

[SadisticChunkyDwarf]

Yep and back in my day ice cream was a nickel. Kids these days with their opinions and what not. Bah.

 

Back then we had opinions as well, but we also had tact.