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After I promote a character and I'm doing a routine run and a couple threatening runs, I care not about the miniscule amount of gold you so desperately want.

Go ahead and open the door yourself and waste your own time, I'll go clear the next room solo. Because I can.

I run perilous for gold.


Don't worry AW I'm sure they will gut the class so you can't even set foot in a Routine without dying.

Or maybe you're a Reaver? In which case they take away all your base defences and add a massive hp cost to Dragon Rage spamming.

Point is, Being OP doesn't last forever being a jerk about it however, that's something that sticks and will follow you around like a bad smell.

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You're such a leet badass bro!!!!!!


Cool thanks

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Don't worry AW I'm sure they will gut the class so you can't even set foot in a Routine without dying.

Or maybe you're a Reaver? In which case they take away all your base defences and add a massive hp cost to Dragon Rage spamming.

Point is, Being OP doesn't last forever being a jerk about it however, that's something that sticks and will follow you around like a bad smell.


You sound jealous. I can solo threatening with:

Ele, aw, leg, reaver, assassin, probably alch (havnt tried), probably Hunter (havnt tried), necro, and keeper.

I'm sorry to hear that you can only do it with aw.

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You sound jealous. I can solo threatening with:

Ele, aw, leg, reaver, assassin, probably alch (havnt tried), probably Hunter (havnt tried), necro, and keeper.

I'm sorry to hear that you can only do it with aw.


Cool Story Troll.

Almost got me, but not quite

#30
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Cool Story Troll.

Almost got me, but not quite


that's right, I'm trolling. Because I claim to do things that are 100% possible and achieved by not only myself, but others as well.

Logic.

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that's right, I'm trolling. Because I claim to do things that are 100% possible and achieved by not only myself, but others as well.

Logic.


Achievable or not is irrelevant. I took a moment to look at your post history to note that you take the trying to pick an argument and get a rise out of your fellow forumers route to the majority of your posts.

Therefore you're a troll, not a special snowflake, not a cool original dude.

Just yet another internet troll.

Good Day to you Sir.

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Please make me a detailed list of everything in my post history I've been wrong about.

I'd love to see you try.



Oh, and you're not the white knight you think you are.

You're just another internet troll that goes around calling other people trolls and trying to get a rise out of them.


Remember, the VERY FIRST thing you said to me was a series of false assumptions and personal attacks.

That's how you introduce yourself.

Troll.

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Please make me a detailed list of everything in my post history I've been wrong about.

I'd love to see you try.


Your entire attitude and approach to other posters is more than enough to label you as a troll.

Did you have to go into the Katari guys thread and be a Jerk about your feelings on the class being under powered?

Did you have to come into this thread with a "I'll screw you guys over on Threatening Ops because I can" Attitude?

No you didn't. You did it to get a Rise to gorge your ego on.

I sincerely hope I never come across you in game because playing in a map with you sounds like you'd be one of those loud mouths constantly trash talking and insulting others.

I wouldn't care if you're the best player of DAMP in the world, I'd rather play with 1000 Well mannered and undergeared players that play for fun than someone like you.

Like I said.

Good Day Sir.

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that's right, I'm trolling. Because I claim to do things that are 100% possible and achieved by not only myself, but others as well.

Logic.



Why must we fight in front of the children? Is this why we can't have nice things? Ohh wait... No. It's because someone who already has what they want character and equipment wise, who solos Threatening, has to join a Routine PUG to complete challenges, dragging other players, who still have yet to unlock all characters or get decent equipment, past their means of doing so, simply because Routine level amounts of Gold and Items are beneath them, as are the other players who might want to break pots and open treasure rooms....but they need to PUG to meet challenge unlocks and level recently promoted characters. Phew

Solution: BA solos Threatening with newly promoted character with mad awesome Equipment they already have unlocked, until BA is high enough level to run Perilous. This way, those of us who do not want to be dragged forward get what we want and BA gets their challenge unlocks and XP faster... Because they are just that BA... So yeah... Problem solved.
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Your entire attitude and approach to other posters is more than enough to label you as a troll.

Did you have to go into the Katari guys thread and be a Jerk about your feelings on the class being under powered?

Did you have to come into this thread with a "I'll screw you guys over on Threatening Ops because I can" Attitude?

No you didn't. You did it to get a Rise to gorge your ego on.

I sincerely hope I never come across you in game because playing in a map with you sounds like you'd be one of those loud mouths constantly trash talking and insulting others.

I wouldn't care if you're the best player of DAMP in the world, I'd rather play with 1000 Well mannered and undergeared players that play for fun than someone like you.

Like I said.

Good Day Sir.

1) in the katari thread I never once insulted him. I said his class deserves a buff. In that very same thread, you convinced me you've never gone beyond routine. Go look at the other people's responses that were INFINITELY more rude than mine.

2) my attitude has nothing to do with screwing people over, you're just making crap up. When I run through routine or threatening my teammates get free, easy, fast wins because I am well geared and knowledgeable. Hence my extensive friends list and all the people who ask me for advice

3) THE VERY FIRST THING YOU EVER SAID TO ME WAS A SERIES OF FALSE ASSUMPTIONS AND PERSONAL ATTACKS.

JESUS Christ get over yourself kid. You're a terrible human being trying to backtrack and act like you're a saint.

Reply any more you want, you have nothing constructive to add to any of these threads and I've already said my piece here (before You decided to troll and act like a jerk) so I'm done here.

"Good day sir"

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After I promote a character and I'm doing a routine run and a couple threatening runs, I care not about the miniscule amount of gold you so desperately want.

Go ahead and open the door yourself and waste your own time, I'll go clear the next room solo. Because I can.

I run perilous for gold.

Just thought I'd requote this because you seem to forget so quickly what you wrote.

Either English is not your first language in which case, I humbly apologise, but if it's not please re-read what you wrote.

"I Don't care what you want, I'll go solo because I can"

In a thread where folk are discussing the issue of people that are rushing through ops and screwing the team out of Gold.

That's why I asked not so politely if you were a AW or Reaver player because that's where the attitude is most commonly found.

Edit: Also trying to Reverse it by calling me a troll and saying I personally attacked you when (read your own post) you clearly came into this thread with the entirely wrong attitude?

You use so many tired internet Clichés anyone might mistake you for a 4Chan bot.

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You're saying that I'm not allowed to post my opinion because it's different than yours.

But you're...not a troll?

This is actually becoming funny.

You seriously think you're a good person? How is that even possible?

A few centuries ago you'd be arguing that the world is flat.

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You're saying that I'm not allowed to post my opinion because it's different than yours.

But you're...not a troll?

This is actually becoming funny.

You seriously think you're a good person? How is that even possible?

A few centuries ago you'd be arguing that the world is flat.

There's a difference between having a difference of opinion and being quite frankly a stuck up Elitist about it.

You could have easily said "Well I don't mind that people go do their thing with full clears but I'd prefer to speed run it"

Is that really so hard?

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There's a difference between having a difference of opinion and being quite frankly a stuck up about it.

You could have easily said "Well I don't mind that people go do their thing with full clears but I'd prefer to speed run it"

Is that really so hard?

Getting stuck on semantics and completely ignoring what's being said is a classic troll tactic.

Also, calling someone stuck up when that's exactly how you were/are acting is another part of troll 101.

Sure does sound like you're the biggest troll in this thread.

I wonder how many more times you'll reply to me tonight.

(Hey go look at your baby katari thread. Take special note of all the people agreeing with me, in a far more rude fashion. You should probably go yell at all of them for having a different opinion than you do)

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You two do realize that every single one of your posts in this thread can be summed up with "NO U", right? Just saying ...


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After I promote a character and I'm doing a routine run and a couple threatening runs, I care not about the miniscule amount of gold you so desperately want.

Go ahead and open the door yourself and waste your own time, I'll go clear the next room solo. Because I can.

I run perilous for gold.


Why don´t you just solo those runs?

#42
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Why don´t you just solo those runs?

Because speed.

Also, literally every time I pug a freshly promoted character I come across at least 1 other person doing the same thing who then adds me to friends and bolsters the number of people I have to run perilous with.

Pugging perilous is infinitely less successful than using friends list. Too many no banner + no emblem lvl 14-16 archers

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Getting stuck on semantics and completely ignoring what's being said is a classic troll tactic.

Also, calling someone stuck up when that's exactly how you were/are acting is another part of troll 101.

Sure does sound like you're the biggest troll in this thread.

I wonder how many more times you'll reply to me tonight.

(Hey go look at your baby katari thread. Take special note of all the people agreeing with me, in a far more rude fashion. You should probably go yell at all of them for having a different opinion than you do)


And yet you continue, when I try to find a compromise and actually state why I even started the Dialogue and you start trying to fill it with Hyperbole to try win some strange Victory?

I'm talking to you, not them. Stop deflecting and changing the subject, stop trying to be a smartarse by increasing the Grandeur of your posts to detract from the fact you came into this thread looking to stir and that's EXACTLY why you worded it the way you did.

I will gladly apologise for my original comments if it felt like a Personal attack then I am indeed sorry, but I won't apologise for you trying to cover your backside by steering the conversation in attempt to make yourself look the victim because you got called out for quite clearly a post that had every intention of fishing with flame bait.

And Should anyone hit the report button both you and I will get warnings, I for responding, You for Trolling and Flame baiting.

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Just thought I'd requote this because you seem to forget so quickly what you wrote.

Either English is not your first language in which case, I humbly apologise, but if it's not please re-read what you wrote.

"I Don't care what you want, I'll go solo because I can"

In a thread where folk are discussing the issue of people that are rushing through ops and screwing the team out of Gold.

That's why I asked not so politely if you were a AW or Reaver player because that's where the attitude is most commonly found.

Edit: Also trying to Reverse it by calling me a troll and saying I personally attacked you when (read your own post) you clearly came into this thread with the entirely wrong attitude?

You use so many tired internet Clichés anyone might mistake you for a 4Chan bot.

Discussing is a stretch, it's more of a whine thread... Also he has the "entirely wrong attitude"? Who are you again? Maybe you should reflect

 

If anything you should be mad at the system that's in place. You're asking a player who has put in 100s of hours into MP to slow down to a painful pace for a petty amount of gold comparatively to perilous. Sounds terribly inefficient. I myself am going to clear through the rooms with or without you, and if I see a door I can open I'll open it and continue. Also, you attacked him for acting like an elitest jerk, when in reality he's just among players who have put in more time than you and play the game efficiently, and sorry there's no sugar coating that. If there was an easier way to do it, trust me I'd avoid the routine and threatening community altogether



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fact you came into this thread looking to stir and that's EXACTLY why you worded it the way you did.


I came into this thread stating a dissenting opinion and you proceeded to tell me that I'm not allowed to post how I feel, because you don't feel the same way. Need me to quote your previous posts? I can if you need me to.
You also started speaking to me with purely false assumptions and personal attacks (again, if you need me to quote you, I can) which you then led into trying to act like you're above me.

I didn't come here to "stir" anything and in case you hadn't noticed, there is exactly ONE person getting riled up by what I had to say - you.

You are not the voice of the masses so get off your pedastal.


FACT - if I was the only person who felt the way that I do, this thread wouldn't exist.

FACT - I said you're welcome to spend your own time in a low difficulty run with me opening treasure rooms while I gladly clear the next room in effort to complete the run faster. This results in you getting the gold you want, finishing the run in a timely manner, and being able to complete more runs in your limited time you have to play (assuming you're a normal human being with things like a job and/or a life)

FACT -I teach people in low difficulty runs how to beat the game effectively. It's shocking to me how many people don't know how to beat demon commander. Run with me, you'll know how.



You saying I'm a jerk doesn't make it true.

You painting your false assumptions onto me DOES make you a jerk.

Opinions are all your own.
Getting your panties in a bunch because of how I form a sentence is a personal problem.


Facts are irrefutable.

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Pugging perilous is infinitely less successful than using friends list. Too many no banner + no emblem archers

 

I ran into a bunch of Russians earlier who promoted and played their lvl 1 characters on Perilous. We made it to stage 5 in that game and finished all the other ones.

 

So far my experiences with Perilous pugs have been quite positive. Most of the no banner Archers seem to be on Threatening.



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You're asking a player who has put in 100s of hours into MP


...how did you know I have hundreds of damp hours logged?

ARE YOU STALKING ME?

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Discussing is a stretch, it's more of a whine thread... Also he has the "entirely wrong attitude"? Who are you again? Maybe you should reflect

If anything you should be mad at the system that's in place. You're asking a player who has put in 100s of hours into MP to slow down to a painful pace for a petty amount of gold comparatively to perilous. Sounds terribly inefficient. I myself am going to clear through the rooms with or without you, and if I see a door I can open I'll open it and continue. Also, you attacked him for acting like an elitest jerk, when in reality he's just among players who have put in more time than you and play the game efficiently, and sorry there's no sugar coating that. If there was an easier way to do it, trust me I'd avoid the routine and threatening community altogether


I've pumped a fair few hours into the mode myself (up to around 30-40) I commonly play Assassin but also a full Utility Barrier specced Keeper and a Holy Wrath Templar (more Tank inclined) I stick to Threatening mode as I'm not having the greatest RNG luck in terms of loot (plenty of purple runes only 1 level 23 white Bow in more chests that I care to count).

I prefer to play to the pace of the team, if they are speed running, I'll speed run, if it's a full clear so be it, the needs of the many and all that.

I like to do 2 Runs before buying and Checking what Crafting/Salvaging/Gear I got, Normally 2 Full Clears net enough gold for 1 Large and 1 Medium chest.

While I understand that those that are geared for Perilous prefer to Speed Run, it's that they don't respect the desires of the three other people with them. While I'm sure they could solo the whole thing perfectly fine, is it fair to expect three perfect strangers to speed run too if they aren't hosting? Not really.

We are all in the same boat after all, the RNG treadmill, some get lucky and geared quickly, others don't and need all the gold they can get for more shots at loot.

Wouldn't it be better to strike a compromise? such as hitting only the Treasure rooms that are directly en route and merely a loss of seconds than forcing them to lose all the treasure rooms and thus potentially having a lobby filled with annoyed players that may remember it when they are finally geared enough for Perilous and repay in kind with vote kicks?

Just how I feel on it.

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Discussing is a stretch, it's more of a whine thread... Also he has the "entirely wrong attitude"? Who are you again? Maybe you should reflect
 
If anything you should be mad at the system that's in place. You're asking a player who has put in 100s of hours into MP to slow down to a painful pace for a petty amount of gold comparatively to perilous. Sounds terribly inefficient. I myself am going to clear through the rooms with or without you, and if I see a door I can open I'll open it and continue. Also, you attacked him for acting like an elitest jerk, when in reality he's just among players who have put in more time than you and play the game efficiently, and sorry there's no sugar coating that. If there was an easier way to do it, trust me I'd avoid the routine and threatening community altogether


Who cares how many hours one puts in a game?
No, he is not playing the game efficiently. He is blasting through an ez mode game, doing much disservice to newcomers that would like to learn to play the game and gathering some gold for getting better equipment.
If he was efficient he would take his level 1 kit in a threatening or perilous game, with his buddies.
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2) my attitude has nothing to do with screwing people over, you're just making crap up. When I run through routine or threatening my teammates get free, easy, fast wins because I am well geared and knowledgeable. Hence my extensive friends list and all the people who ask me for advice

 

As an aside, I'd just like to say: I hate, hate, hate, hate running into people like you. I've been trying to get into the multiplayer, but when every other game I feel like a third wheel just tagging along for the ride it completely ruins any fun the multiplayer might have. It might a 'free easy, fast' win, but I'll take a slow and steady win where I actually feel like I contributed.

 

It's actually one of my biggest complaints about the multiplayer so far. (Although I have very limited experience with it due to it) The importance of gear in terms of weapon damage is absolutely insane, and in a lot of ways it feels like it negates the point of levels in a lot of ways. (At least on the lower difficulties) I've seen like 15+ characters still not doing any significantly more damage than myself when I was trying out archer at level 5 because they were still using crappy gear, if not the starter gear, while I've seen level 1s who just roflstomp everything with their silly high damaging weapons.

 

It's incredibly frustrating. And it's not just myself at the least, I know the two friends that also have been messing with multiplayer have stopped bothering entirely because of this.


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