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[dsl08002]

Another thing why the campaing felt to short was that it wasnt anything to do around it. I completed the main campaign in 15 hours and i managed to do all the companion quest during that time as well.

Upgrading your castle, exploring areas, gather power, close rifts none of those things felt importent and interesting to do. It was boring.

[AlexiaRevan]

-Story too short 

-Story lack depth and emotions (yes corny is Boring ! yes there is no stress to wanna chase him ! yes couldve been an explosive ending but wasn't ! yes Dialogues lack emotions and so does the Story!) 

-Tie maps to main Story otherwise...I really don't care to go to x map so i can read some codex . 

-War room good idea , but I wish your personal background Missions were like companions personal Quest . I wish I could meet my Qunari old merc in Skyhold instead of having to read a short letter and appoint it as a mission on the war Table . 

-Skyhold = Biggest dissapointement . useless upgrades , I dont want a new castle ! But we couldve fixed more of it . And I really really want those Pampous masked dude out of my Hall ! I wanted to see Guard patrolling ! Prisoners actually waiting in cells ! More Upgrades ! To be able to arm your army (instead of just getting 1 power when you do those) ...etc..

-More chaos please . Rift everywhere , but really? no running peoples....no npc being killed by roaming Templars and Mages ? 

-The Ability to change the peoples mind about you being herald . As well as either adding the friend/rival system back or Give me a renegade Interrupt ! I wanna punch Alexius ! 

[Torgette]

Another thing why the campaing felt to short was that it wasnt anything to do around it. I completed the main campaign in 15 hours and i managed to do all the companion quest during that time as well.

Upgrading your castle, exploring areas, gather power, close rifts none of those things felt importent and interesting to do. It was boring.

 

I feel like they should've made closing the rift a bigger deal in each zone than just "close X number of small rifts", also that each zone should've had a Crestwood-style quest that adds to your power rather than establishing camps (which really should've added nothing - being able to fast travel and refill supplies should be enough incentive). Add to that more cutscenes and more "show and tell" with those Crestwood-style quests as well as more power required to finish the main quest (thus justifying doing these big crestwood-style side quests) and the overall game would've felt a lot more fleshed out.

 

As for the main quest itself, I felt the fade part after Adamant was way too short and straightforward - here we should've had a major encounter with Corypheus even if not his physical self or at the least something equivalent to our fade trip in DAO at the mage tower. Also of course as i've mentioned before on this site more involvement of the Well of Sorrows and the Eluvian mirrors with the finale - re: make it so you're being fed locations of the mirrors and can pre-empt Corypheus' every move instantly while your armies are still heading back from the Arbor Wilds. Corypheus is forced to send the dragon to attack skyhold without your armies to back you up, you get a taste of the final battle and a reason to tame a dragon. Then the finale happens, like on top of a mountain or something where Corypheus is trying to open the fade again - would've given the game more punch.

[DSiKn355]

Dude...the main story alone is WAY longer than either previous game. I didn't do even HALF of the sidequests and I finished my first playthrough clocked in at 120 hours. 

 

The story is as long as the other games. 

 

 

Both of you are liars

 

DA:I is only 6hrs of main quest when you remove the time building power.

 

No other DA games has ever been that short or that meaningless and unfulfilling with it's story.

 

One of the most interesting aspects the Templar mage war was so short lived I actually questioned why it was even referenced from DA2 at all.

 

Corypheus is just generic and seriously lacking any type of character depth even worse than Meredith.

 

The whole game just feels pointless and as if it is only used as a setup to whatever Solas' plot will be revealed as in the next DA game.

 

As for side quests it would have made more sense to make the closing of the rifts more main quest related giving some kind of dialogue/interaction/cutscene when an area is clear of breaches to keep interest in the story going.

[Vargeisa]

I'm not sure how relevent this comment will be to this thread, but what I think would help with the pacing of this game is a story DLC that, instead of having it's own zone, would take you to all the zones the main quest doesn't force you to go to.

 

It wouldn't be too difficult to add a dungeon here or there.

If the story in this DLC would relate to the main quest in one way or another, I believe the main quest would not seem as short as it does now.

[Torgette]

Both of you are liars

DA:I is only 6hrs of main quest when you remove the time building power.

No other DA games has ever been that short or that meaningless and unfulfilling with it's story.

One of the most interesting aspects the Templar mage war was so short lived I actually questioned why it was even referenced from DA2 at all.

Corypheus is just generic and seriously lacking any type of character depth even worse than Meredith.

The whole game just feels pointless and as if it is only used as a setup to whatever Solas' plot will be revealed as in the next DA game.

As for side quests it would have made more sense to make the closing of the rifts more main quest related giving some kind of dialogue/interaction/cutscene when an area is clear of breaches to keep interest in the story going.

Uh 6 hours? That would make each mission like 35 minutes long.

[DSiKn355]

Uh 6 hours? That would make each mission like 35 minutes long.

 

Gameplay is not story content.

 

I could stand in one spot for 10hrs during gameplay of the first quest but that wouldn't make the story content any longer would it?

 

No.

 

The story content we got that is supposed to inspire us, captivate us and draw us in is only 6hrs long.

 

Just because you chose to do things that dragged it out doesn't mean that it is 14hrs+ long.

 

[AlanC9]

I presume someone has done videos like that for other Bio games. How long are they?

[jones81381]

I'm at 75+ hours play time and I feel like I'm nowhere near finished with the story yet. To be fair, I played a dorf warrior for about 25 or 30 hours then decided I wanted to be a rogue instead so I started over AND I do a lot of tabbing out to post here or elsewhere or eat something so that probably counts toward the time too.

[Il Divo]

I presume someone has done videos like that for other Bio games. How long are they?

 

Honestly, if we're playing the "gameplay doesn't count" game, then I shudder to think what happens to Mass Effect 1. Take out all the pointless side quests, random side npc's, etc, and I suspect it's as bad, if not worse. Hell, do that with Baldur's Gate, since the entire game is pretty much combat and exploration, but still seems to have an amazing reputation. 

[Torgette]

Gameplay is not story content.

 

I could stand in one spot for 10hrs during gameplay of the first quest but that wouldn't make the story content any longer would it?

 

No.

 

The story content we got that is supposed to inspire us, captivate us and draw us in is only 6hrs long.

 

Just because you chose to do things that dragged it out doesn't mean that it is 14hrs+ long.

 

 

If gameplay isn't content, then most of DAO's main missions would be short as hell too - all of them had tons of combat filler that would go on seemingly forever. Sorry but this is a ridiculous complaint for any video game.

[AlanC9]

Honestly, if we're playing the "gameplay doesn't count" game, then I shudder to think what happens to Mass Effect 1. Take out all the pointless side quests, random side npc's, etc, and I suspect it's as bad, if not worse. Hell, do that with Baldur's Gate, since the entire game is pretty much combat and exploration, but still seems to have an amazing reputation.

Yeah, that's my impression too. I've always suspected that you could put together a coherent cinematic edit of a ME1 playthrough that would be about the length of a feature film. I wonder if anyone's tried it?

[CronoDragoon]

Mass Effect 3 probably holds up the best in these terms. Mass Effect 2's "main story content" is probably under an hour.

 

Yeah, that's my impression too. I've always suspected that you could put together a coherent cinematic edit of a ME1 playthrough that would be about the length of a feature film. I wonder if anyone's tried it?

 

[Cheviot]

So what I've learned from this thread is that the important part of video games is cutscenes.

[jones81381]

So what I've learned from this thread is that the important part of video games is cutscenes.

 

Apparently, which I disagree with.

[animedreamer]

i believe the idea was to play the main game, then get addicted to multiplier until you forget about the main game.... unfortunately it kind of backfired.