For these two...
To much enthusiasm...
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Posté 05 décembre 2014 - 12:00
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Go watch Legend of the Galactic Heroes for your sci-fi needs.
Jeez
Probably better than both of those anyway.
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Posté 05 décembre 2014 - 12:04
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Star Wars: Meeeeeeh.
Mass Effect: THE HYPE! Though i doubt we'll be getting any new info on NME any soon.
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Posté 05 décembre 2014 - 12:32
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Star Wars: Meeeeeeh.
Mass Effect: THE HYPE! Though i doubt we'll be getting any new info on NME any soon.
Does Mass Effect have hype? I thought it just had despair and the gnashing of teeth?
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Posté 05 décembre 2014 - 12:32
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For both, the real deal are still more than a year away.
I ain't boarding no hype trains here.
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Posté 05 décembre 2014 - 12:33
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Does Mass Effect have hype? I thought it just had despair and the gnashing of teeth?
That's mass effect 3. 
Not the mass effect franchise.
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Posté 05 décembre 2014 - 12:38
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That's mass effect 3.
To many people, the Mass Effect franchise ended forever with this:
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Posté 05 décembre 2014 - 12:43
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To many people, the Mass Effect franchise ended forever with this:
Y U DO DIS, Jimmy?! Do not remind me of this.
Seriously though, No. I have always thought that the mass effect universe isn't just about the reapers and i have fully supported BioWare to do ME4. About Shepard, Yes, He/she's fundamental to the universe, But the MEU isn't just about him. I'd have preferred Shepard and his squad to end the reaper threat and then settle in for a while. Becoming a modern legendary story to the galaxy. Eventually, He would have to reappear, But when the time is right. None of this really matters as Shepard is technically dead. 
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Posté 05 décembre 2014 - 12:48
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Mass Effect is done. If they really wanted to do something more with this series they should've, y'know... had a different ending that didn't damage the series beyond repair and also left things more open-ended?
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Posté 05 décembre 2014 - 12:50
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I feel the exact opposite of Leo8
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Posté 05 décembre 2014 - 12:51
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Y U DO DIS, Jimmy?! Do not remind me of this.
Seriously though, No. I have always thought that the mass effect universe isn't just about the reapers and i have fully supported BioWare to do ME4. About Shepard, Yes, He/she's fundamental to the universe, But the MEU isn't just about him. I'd have preferred Shepard and his squad to end the reaper threat and then settle in for a while. Becoming a modern legendary story to the galaxy. Eventually, He would have to reappear, But when the time is right. None of this really matters as Shepard is technically dead.
So what...Shepard is Batman now?
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Posté 05 décembre 2014 - 12:53
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I'm fine with them continuing without Shephard. And I am BEYOND cool with them dropping the Reapers - outside of the initial OMG moment with Soveriegn in ME1, the Reapers seemed pretty stupid.Y U DO DIS, Jimmy?! Do not remind me of this.
Seriously though, No. I have always thought that the mass effect universe isn't just about the reapers and i have fully supported BioWare to do ME4. About Shepard, Yes, He/she's fundamental to the universe, But the MEU isn't just about him. I'd have preferred Shepard and his squad to end the reaper threat and then settle in for a while. Becoming a modern legendary story to the galaxy. Eventually, He would have to reappear, But when the time is right. None of this really matters as Shepard is technically dead.
But they left their game world an absolute smoldering ruin - both literally and figuratively. And while they can rebuild the literal destruction, the nonsense and broken narrative and logic just flat out killed any excitement I have for a title in that universe. I do not care to partake in anything that is made by the team given how little they can weave a story if that's where they wind up taking a five year trilogy with millions of fans and countless man hours spent. That they have so little consideration for their fans and their own work to create such bilge and not even be aware of it's massive shortcomings is a sign to me that I think it would be best if this unholy IP was forever left to rot. Shephard did not stop the Reapers, he was indoctrinated and he will forever be buried dead under the rubble, unable to even get a last breath, powerless in the face of an undefeatable foe. That steaming like of story is still twenty times better than any ending we got from Bioware.
So no... I'm not hype about a new ME. Unless they completely reboot the series and pretend the story of the entire first three games never happened at all. Trying to accomodate anything from the prior games in light of the RBG endings is going to absolutely make the series of zero worth to even look at, let alone play in.
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Posté 05 décembre 2014 - 12:54
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So what...Shepard is Batman now?
Nope. His/Her own legend. A true modern legend. That particular high regard of him and his squad was noticed many times specially in Citadel DLC. It's very reasonable for him to take sometime off the grid for now and for us to have a new hero that takes the story in a different direction.
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Posté 05 décembre 2014 - 12:56
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After ep 3 of star wars, I have no hope for a Star wars movie, and ME is finished in my books. Sims suggestion of watching a better sci fi show is viable.
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Posté 05 décembre 2014 - 12:57
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I'm fine with them continuing without Shephard. And I am BEYOND cool with them dropping the Reapers - outside of the initial OMG moment with Soveriegn in ME1, the Reaper seemed pretty stupid.
But they left their game world an absolute smoldering ruin - both literally and figuratively. And while they can rebuild the literal destruction, the nonsense and broken narrative and logic just flat out killed any excitement I have for a title in that universe. I do not care to partake in anything that is made by the team given how little they can weave a story if thagms where they wind up taking a five year trilogy with millions of fans and countless man hours spent. That they have so little consideration for their fans and their own work to create such bilge and not even be aware of it's massive shortcomings is a sign to me that I think it would be best if this unholy IP was forever left to rot. Shephard did not stop the Reapers, he was indoctrinated and he will forever be buried dead under the rubble, unable to even get a last breath, powerless in the face of an undefeatable foe. That steaming like of story is still twenty times better than any ending we got from Bioware.
So no... I'm not hype about a new ME. Unless they completely reboot the series and pretend the story of the entire first three games never happened at all. Trying to accomodate anything from the prior games in light of the RBG endings is going to absolutely make the series of zero worth to even look at, let alone play in.
I didn't find Sovereign stupid. But i guess to each their own.
Well, As the great Garrus Vakarian once said, "I'm all for second chances, Not sure of third ones". I'm giving the team a second chance to see what they have learned from the controversy of ME3. Besides, I hold the MEU in a very high regard that i won't be able to stop myself from getting any game that has anything to do with mass effect.
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Posté 05 décembre 2014 - 01:02
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I liked Sovereign's speech but when I look back on it the whole "our goals are beyond your comprehension" thing felt like a bit of a copout (although it ended up being true when the Reapers' unbelievably stupid goals were actually revealed). In fact after ME3 my suspension of disbelief kinda dissolved and I became more critical of the entire series and its many faults in logic and storytelling. That's what I mean when I say the franchise is damaged beyond repair.
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Posté 05 décembre 2014 - 01:03
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Sorry, that was a typo. I said "Reaper" but meant "Reapers," as a whole. They were menacing and crazy intimidating in ME1, but then they devolved into logic defying silliness, espeically towards the end of ME3. And all because the writers had zero idea with what to do with their own story and threat they had created.I didn't find Sovereign stupid. But i guess to each their own.
Well, As the great Garrus Vakarian once said, "I'm all for second chances, Not sure of third ones". I'm giving the team a second chance to see what they have learned from the controversy of ME3. Besides, I hold the MEU in a very high regard that i won't be able to stop myself from getting any game that has anything to do with mass effect.
Considering everyone who had much of any directional control and lead of the games, espeically the original games, are gone, I don't consider it a second chance. I consider it a team using the success of others to try and churn out another blockbuster. Nothing against them, but when your lead writers, lead developers and lead producers are different, you don't have NEAR the same feel for a game, no matter how hard anyone tries.
So if there is hype for ME:N (heh), then I would consider it my duty to squelch it and snuff it out, anywhere it presents itself.
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Posté 05 décembre 2014 - 01:06
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I liked Sovereign's speech but when I look back on it the whole "our goals are beyond your comprehension" thing felt like a bit of a copout (although it ended up being true when the Reapers' unbelievably stupid goals were actually revealed). In fact after ME3 my suspension of disbelief kinda dissolved and I became more critical of the entire series and its many faults in logic and storytelling. That's what I mean when I say the franchise is damaged beyond repair.
Nope. ME1 and ME2 were setting things up for ME3. However, ME3 team didn't really know how to make the game entirely Mass Effect-ish, Specially after the departure of the brilliant Drew Kaypshyr. These plot holes weren't left there without a purpose, They were just setting things up for the ultimate twist at the end ME3 that never happened.
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Posté 05 décembre 2014 - 01:10
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Nope. ME1 and ME2 were setting things up for ME3. However, ME3 team didn't really know how to make the game entirely Mass Effect-ish, Specially after the departure of the brilliant Drew Kaypshyr. These plot holes weren't left there without a purpose, They were just setting things up for the ultimate twist at the end ME3 that never happened.
lol don't make me laugh. Drews plans where just as bad, not to mention he was the one that started many plot lines we saw in ME3.
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Posté 05 décembre 2014 - 01:11
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Sorry, that was a typo. I said "Reaper" but meant "Reapers," as a whole. They were menacing and crazy intimidating in ME1, but then they devolved into logic defying silliness, espeically towards the end of ME3. And all because the writers had zero idea with what to do with their own story and threat they had created.
Considering everyone who had much of any directional control and lead of the games, espeically the original games, are gone, I don't consider it a second chance. I consider it a team using the success of others to try and churn out another blockbuster. Nothing against them, but when your lead writers, lead developers and lead producers are different, you don't have NEAR the same feel for a game, no matter how hard anyone tries.
So if there is hype for ME:N (heh), then I would consider it my duty to squelch it and snuff it out, anywhere it presents itself.
About the reapers, Many of you guys see them as massive space jerks who are just in the way of progress. I see them differently, You're actually their tool, You develop according to their plans because you use technology that you don't understand. Legion spoke of this issue quite eloquently. And quoted Sovereign several times while talking about the matter. It really made sense to me that we didn't understand the reapers' motives just yet, And i had hoped that ME3 would explain the entire mystery, As Drew was intending to do by his dark energy ending, If it had been properly developed. But after his departure, The storyline went in a different direction.
As for the devs, That's sadly true.
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lol don't make me laugh. Drews plans where just as bad, not to mention he was the one that started many plot lines we saw in ME3.
If you think that the dark energy concept of Drew is bad, You need to revise your knowledge of the lore of mass effect. Drew wasn't even in ME3, He quit after ME2.
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Posté 05 décembre 2014 - 01:12
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Nope. ME1 and ME2 were setting things up for ME3. However, ME3 team didn't really know how to make the game entirely Mass Effect-ish, Specially after the departure of the brilliant Drew Kaypshyr. These plot holes weren't left there without a purpose, They were just setting things up for the ultimate twist at the end ME3 that never happened.
That's a cop out. I could go on and tell a joke with so much set up and which has you just waiting on the edge of your seat for a punch line and then say "and everyone died" at the end without any closure to the joke. But you wouldn't say "man, Fast Jimmy had the funniest joke the other day." You'd say "man, Fast Jimmy wasted my time telling me the most idiotic joke."
I've told a joke like that before. It's called "The Pink Joke." It's insaenly funnier to be the person telling it than to be the one being told it. Which is a lot like ME3, except their prank was (hopefully) not intentional.
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Posté 05 décembre 2014 - 01:14
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That's a cop out. I could go on and tell a joke with so much set up and which has you just waiting on the edge of your seat for a punch line and then say "and everyone died" at the end without any closure to the joke. But you wouldn't say "man, Fast Jimmy had the funniest joke the other day." You'd say "man, Fast Jimmy wasted my time telling me the most idiotic joke."
I've told a joke like that before. It's called "The Pink Joke." It's insaenly funnier to be the person telling it than to be the one being told it. Which is a lot like ME3, except their prank was (hopefully) not intentional.
I disagree. As I've explained before, The storyline required it. The reapers storyline.
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Posté 05 décembre 2014 - 01:17
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Sorry I don't buy it. I think they were winging it from the start and didn't have any real idea where they planned to go with the series and its muddled storyline, which is part of why ME2 actually did very little to advance the main plot and ME3 is so shoddy and disparate compared to the previous two. Maybe they meant to fill in the gaps later but if they did they failed miserably.
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Posté 05 décembre 2014 - 01:17
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If you think that the dark energy concept of Drew is bad, You need to revise your knowledge of the lore of mass effect. Drew wasn't even in ME3, He quit after ME2.
False. He left Bioware for good sometime after he finished his third ME book, which you know, built up Cerberus role in ME3. People like to blame Mac but really, half the issues where Drew and lack of proper planning. He already admitted that Cerberus was a asspull for ME2 and they never planed that/ There was never any plans, only ideas and that is why the series as a whole is a giant mess.
Drew is just as bad as Mac.
