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Okay, so after you get Skyhold, and you leave for the first time, a lot of repairs have started and finished on the castle when you return. The Throne Room isn't in shambles, but has Orlesian guests and scaffolding. There's scaffolding everywhere. The Tavern and Armory and Quartermaster are functional. But lots of rooms are still a mess. The hole in what I'm calling the Western Battlements (over by where you meet Hawke) are fixed, but the hole in the Eastern Battlements (over by the Stables) is not. If you go up to your bedroom you can find schematics on your desk that allow you to upgrade your Courtyard, Garden, and Main Tower (come on, is it really the "Main" Tower?) And if you find enough quarries and logging stands out in the world you can upgrade each. Great. Also, after you've completed Adamant and Halamshiral, all the scaffolding disappears and you have more guests. But not all the repairs are done. The interior for most of the towers are still a mess. Some doors still won't open, and the Eastern Battlements are still broken. And it has stayed that way until I beat the game.

 

So repairs are based off game progress and schematic completion, right? Why can't I fully fix Skyhold then? Am I missing something? Are there more schematics somewhere? Or is it supposed to stay that way throughout? The customizer in the Undercroft doesn't seem to affect that stuff.

 

Also, these upgrades are pretty cheap. I spend so much time wandering the countryside, unlocking all of these quarries and stands, and the upgrades hardly change anything at all. I thought the sparring ring would be similar to the training grounds you saw at Haven. A ton of guys going through sword forms with a few drillmasters looking on? The garden is bad too. I can either get a few more flower pots, which produce new herbs in such low quantity and speed as to be useless, or an equally useless and completely solitary totem/obelisk/statue thing in one corner of the garden. I guess the Mage/Templar tower is a little better. You at least can trick yourself into thinking "Ah, 10 of the senior mages I recruited don't have to sleep in tents down on that frozen lake anymore. It's too bad this tower is so sparsely stocked with mage equipment."

 

Also, what is the point of the Secret Library? There's some sort of room near the kitchen and wine cellar, that I am assuming could be used as a private dining area for important guests if we ever got furniture in there. Off of that is this additional library, with a big spooky book. The Dark Library. Whatever you want to call it. I saw it and said "This is where Morrigan will stay when she gets here." Nope. She's in the garden. And where is the Eluvian she brought with her? In a spare storage room, next to the garden. *Flips table in mock exasperation*

 

If someone can provide some clarity, it would be much appreciated.



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Ya some of the stuff was kinda like hmm?  But basically all repairs are done by the end of the game, and it is triggered by story missions, or when that little note next to the stairs updates with new world news.  I'm hoping they add more stuff



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Also, what is the point of the Secret Library? There's some sort of room near the kitchen and wine cellar, that I am assuming could be used as a private dining area for important guests if we ever got furniture in there. Off of that is this additional library, with a big spooky book. The Dark Library. Whatever you want to call it. I saw it and said "This is where Morrigan will stay when she gets here." Nope. She's in the garden. And where is the Eluvian she brought with her? In a spare storage room, next to the garden. *Flips table in mock exasperation*

 

If someone can provide some clarity, it would be much appreciated.

 

It's my private office for when I can be working late and don't want to be found! That way I'm just down the hall from Josephine!

 

But yes, I totally agree. The walk way to the war room being littered with bricks is not okay in my books. What happens when it rains or snows? 



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It's my private office for when I can be working late and don't want to be found! That way I'm just down the hall from Josephine!

 

But yes, I totally agree. The walk way to the war room being littered with bricks is not okay in my books. What happens when it rains or snows? 

 

Ya I kept waiting for that to be fixed, like umm I'm pretty sure the advisors don't want to be freezing while we are meeting on how to change the world.


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Ya I kept waiting for that to be fixed, like umm I'm pretty sure the advisors don't want to be freezing while we are meeting on how to change the world.

 

I keep waiting to have my inquisitor trip over a brick and have to run to the infirmary with either a sprained ankle or bloody nose. :P 


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Ya I kept waiting for that to be fixed, like umm I'm pretty sure the advisors don't want to be freezing while we are meeting on how to change the world.

 

I just got a conversation at the War Table referencing this.  Josie talked about how cold it was in the War Room, and Cullen mentioned how annoying it was to have everything scatter when a breeze came through.


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Does anyone know where those extra pots are? Heck I chose the garden option and I've only found two of those pots to plant things. So much for a garden.

I chose chantry, garden, mage tower. Not much from that at all. No real effect to the game.

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Ya I kept waiting for that to be fixed, like umm I'm pretty sure the advisors don't want to be freezing while we are meeting on how to change the world.

 

It would be fun seeing it getting fix bit by bit and stuff. And I wish Cullen's room should be renovated, His room is a mess ><



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No. It does not all get fixed by the end of the game. I have finished "Doom Upon All the World" and there are parts of the castle that are still a mess. All of the towers except the Cullen's Office and the "Main" Tower are a mess. That little broken shed  thing by the Quartermaster... I could go on. Is it connected to my level? Because I finished at 20. If that's the way it's supposed to be, okay I guess. It just seemed really weird that I have all these people working for me and I've saved the world, but nobody ever cleared the debris in this room over here.


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Does anyone know where those extra pots are? Heck I chose the garden option and I've only found two of those pots to plant things. So much for a garden.

I chose chantry, garden, mage tower. Not much from that at all. No real effect to the game.

 

The extra pots only show up if you pick the option other then Chantry garden, otherwise you only get two pots.



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No. It does not all get fixed by the end of the game. I have finished "Doom Upon All the World" and there are parts of the castle that are still a mess. All of the towers except the Cullen's Office and the "Main" Tower are a mess. That little broken shed thing by the Quartermaster... I could go on. Is it connected to my level? Because I finished at 20. If that's the way it's supposed to be, okay I guess. It just seemed really weird that I have all these people working for me and I've saved the world, but nobody ever cleared the debris in this room over here.


That building near Cassandra becomes the infirmary. If you chose to build the sparring ring instead it will never be fix.
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Can we talk about how Bull has to sleep in a room full of ruined furniture? Seriously, it looks like the West Wing from Beauty and the Beast!



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Can we talk about how Bull has to sleep in a room full of ruined furniture? Seriously, it looks like the West Wing from Beauty and the Beast!

Everyone's experience is different. Maybe you had conversations I didn't. Is it established anywhere where he sleeps, or are you assuming he takes the tower above the Tavern or something? I'm assuming you're just being playful, but I actually wouldn't put it past Bull to just not care and bunk up there. I always assumed those towers would be turned into something. Perhaps rooms for members of my Inner Circle? Because as far as I can tell Sera gets her own little boudoir, my Advisers have a bed in their offices, Blackwall sleeps in the hayloft, Cassandra has a bedroll crammed into the corner of the Armory's attic, and Vivienne took the freaking mezzanine. Kinda seems unfair to my crew that they are get not-so-temporary temporary living conditions and I get the Presidential Suite. There are rooms above the garden that get unlocked, but it's unclear who uses them.



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Everyone's experience is different. Maybe you had conversations I didn't. Is it established anywhere where he sleeps, or are you assuming he takes the tower above the Tavern or something? I'm assuming you're just being playful, but I actually wouldn't put it past Bull to just not care and bunk up there. I always assumed those towers would be turned into something. Perhaps rooms for members of my Inner Circle? Because as far as I can tell Sera gets her own little boudoir, my Advisers have a bed in their offices, Blackwall sleeps in the hayloft, Cassandra has a bedroll crammed into the corner of the Armory's attic, and Vivienne took the freaking mezzanine. Kinda seems unfair to my crew that they are get not-so-temporary temporary living conditions and I get the Presidential Suite. There are rooms above the garden that get unlocked, but it's unclear who uses them.

 

I romanced him and one of the scenes is in his bed. 

 

Unless we just chose that room because it has a bed, but I thought it was specifically Bull's room.

 

It's super unfair that I get the presidential suite while people are sleeping in lobbies or barns! There are perfectly good tower rooms, which I think the visiting dignitaries use.  



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It's super unfair that I get the presidential suite while people are sleeping in lobbies or barns!

Well, you are the Herald of Andraste, Vicomte de Fort Erstwhile and Kickass of the Year. :rolleyes:



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I romanced him and one of the scenes is in his bed. 

 

Unless we just chose that room because it has a bed, but I thought it was specifically Bull's room.

 

It's super unfair that I get the presidential suite while people are sleeping in lobbies or barns! There are perfectly good tower rooms, which I think the visiting dignitaries use.  

That makes sense. I went with Cassandra and we talked in the Armory attic/loft a lot but "committed to a relationship" out in the wilderness somewhere instead of my perfectly comfortable bedroom. Which begs the question of why they all don't go to our room? Secret romances and intrigue...


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On my very first playthrough I was hoping that after the final mission Skyhold gets fully repaired but I ended up pretty disappointed because the final mission changed nothing.

 

One would assume that the workers who repaired the rest of Skyhold wouldn`t leave half of the castle in ruin. Wouldn`t it be a priority to have a fully restored castle for the people that live there? Who benefits from a gaping hole and a ****-ton of marble right outside of the War room? I mean its one of the most important rooms in the castle yet no one has seen it necessary to repair it? What about the gaping hole in the outer wall near Blackwall? Wouldn`t that be a pretty big weakness in Skyhold`s defenses?

 

You know I await the day when one of your advisors ends up in the infirmary because they broke some limbs stumbling over the marble outside of the war room. That **** is highly dangerous.

 

BW has to fix Skyhold so that it is completely restored after a certain number of main missions. I can´t stand the rubble and the hole outside of the war room anymore. The castle should look glorious and not half rotten with holes in the walls.


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On my very first playthrough I was hoping that after the final mission Skyhold gets fully repaired but I ended up pretty disappointed because the final mission changed nothing.

 

One would assume that the workers who repaired the rest of Skyhold wouldn`t leave half of the castle in ruin. Wouldn`t it be a priority to have a fully restored castle for the people that live there? Who benefits from a gaping hole and a ****-ton of marble right outside of the War room? I mean its one of the most important rooms in the castle yet no one has seen it necessary to repair it? What about the gaping hole in the outer wall near Blackwall? Wouldn`t that be a pretty big weakness in Skyhold`s defenses?

 

You know I await the day when one of your advisors ends up in the infirmary because they broke some limbs stumbling over the marble outside of the war room. That **** is highly dangerous.

 

BW has to fix Skyhold so that it is completely restored after a certain number of main missions. I can´t stand the rubble and the hole outside of the war room anymore. The castle should look glorious and not half rotten with holes in the walls.

 

I could stand the holes if the cobwebs, broken furniture, and marble were cleaned up! So great, the throne room is lovely, but I can't take anyone down to my prized wine cellar (since I bothered to collect all those bottles)  because it's plain disgusting! 


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I'm sure dlc will finish off your remodel. I played through blind so I held out to see if there were more or I only had those 3. Truthfully, I was hoping dwarves would throw a hand into the construction efforts, but I'm still not sure if I can even meet any.



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They apparently have something planned for Skyhold in the next patch, so much could be done with the place but I'd settle for the holes being fixed. I'm surprised it doesn't get done after the scaffold comes down in the main hall. 



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The only places where this really irked me is Cullen's office where he would literally freeze to death in his bed, and that huge section of the outer walls that is blown out and doesn't even seem to have a makeshift repair. I actually liked the hole on the way to the War Table...i guess I never noticed how impractical it was because I liked the view.

 

If what Josephine says in her romance is an indication, the entire story is only like 4-6 months long at most. In that sense it makes sense that there aren't that many repairs considering most of your workforce has more important stuff to do than plug a wall in Skyhold when the only real assault that is possible is a dragon, which the small holes probably are pretty insignificant to. I still think it's kind of dumb that there isn't at least makeshit repairs, like boards on cullens roof or on the walkway.

 

I really do hope they add more customization options as well as a more accurate mission by mission representation of Skyhold being repaired. It seems like they got to the point of repair after you do your first act 2 mission, and didn't have time to implement further repairs. (not your workers, but Bioware)



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I'm wondering if Bioware isn't planning on making an awakenings style expansion and finishing skyhold in that game. It would kinda suck for anyone who decided not to play the expansion, but I would love to see it finished eventually.

Also I got the general feeling from the ending that the inquisition was far from over. So it would sort of make sense it some repairs were reserved for later.

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All that space and bricks, a Storage chest somewhere would be nice, and the ability to use my own bed.  Windows in my room would be nice.



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To add. The chimney seems to be missing in private quarters. Not even a bathtub, is that a chamberpot in the corner, along with the wine casks? ...what does one do with all that wine, aren't wine casks supposed to be down underground, not up? I supposed it make so difference since Skyhold is up in the mountains but sure.y .... <_<



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I love Skyhold, reminds me a lot of the castle you get to remodel in Assassin's Creed 2. I also love how you get "King" duties and you get to judge people. It would be awesome if they added to that!

 

In the upcoming game Metal Gear Solid V: Phantom Pain, Big Boss gets a base and he can upgrade it by knocking out enemies, fulton them to the base and they automatically become his soldiers. He could also Fulton vehicles, anti-aircraft weapons, crates, etc. Essentially you could upgrade your base and make it huge! 

 

It would be great if they add some of these elements to Skyhold. More upgrades, ability to add more personal, weapons, defenses, and expand your kingdom. 

 

(I'm quite new to Dragon Age. This is actually my first Dragon Age game. I'm hooked! I constantly find myself pausing the game and looking up information! Hello Dragon Age family! :P)