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[DarkAmaranth1966]

The place should at least be entirely repaired as a reward for finding all of the quarries and logging stands perhaps. The more you find, the better Skyhold gets. That would make sense, you found more materials to work with so, your workers can now do more work on the castle. That or make more repairs and upgradse buyable in game, at least then we'd have a reason to do all of the side quests to get the gold for Skyhold.

[Illydth]

As we're in the Guide's Section let me add some relevant information. 

 

V1.0 of the Game (no major patch updates applied)

 

**** The only viable, game altering option for Skyhold upgrades is the Garden. ****

 

ALWAYS ALWAYS ALWAYS Choose Garden over Chantry.  EVERYTHING you read about any of the upgrades is Flavor Text and does NOT APPLY in game effects.  For instance, the Chantry upgrade eludes to obtaining additional gold from the priests and people in your keep.  This is entirely flavor text however since you will NEVER receive 1 copper penny from the chantry.  It adds a visual effect to the garden (an additional statue, and the "chapel" room with the statue gets marginally more cleaned out...and people pray in there.

 

Conversely, if you choose the Garden over the Chantry, you get 3 additional pots whereby you can plant herbs.  While one poster in this thread says the time you have to wait makes these useless, I HIGHLY disagree.  When you enter Emprise Du Lion for the first time, you will obtain seeds for both Felandaris and Rashivine Nettle.  Both plants are rare requirements for upgrading potions...you will need something like 10 - 20 of each of these to fully upgrade all your potions/tonics and bombs.  There is NO easier way to obtain enough of these materials than to plant them, PARTICULARLY when you can obtain 5 of them at a time with the Garden Upgrade.  Believe me, compared to everything else, the Garden Upgrade is the best keep upgrade you can purchase, and it's useful.

 

Note: Plant respawn time seems to be in the tune of about 2 - 3 hours of game play time for a plant to fully grow.  Note this is not "paused time" or "inventory time", but actual game play time.  This does NOT work like the War Table...plants do not grow in real time, they grow in game time, so only that period spent off pause letting game time tick up will count for growing plants.

 

The other upgrades (Tower and Courtyard) have absolutely NO effect on game play.  Providing the mages their own tower for research doesn't move the mages out of the second floor of the main castle (where Dorian usually is), nor does it elicit any additional dialog from Fiona (If you sided with the Mages).  While I cannot definitively state this I assume the same can be said for building the Templar quarters.

 

The Infirmary vs. Training Ground has negligible effect as well.  The middle of your upper courtyard (Where Cassandra is) gets taken up by a circle with 2 guys fighting in it...very much NOT what I had in mind when I decided to upgrade to a training ground...I said Training Ground, not Sparring Ring.  Assumably, the infirmary makes one additional room on the castle grounds open/available (cleans it out)...the empty room next to Cassandra.

 

Again, PICK THE GARDENS ON YOUR PLAY THROUGH.  It is the ONLY functional upgrade you will get.

[BrokenPolygon]

As we're in the Guide's Section let me add some relevant information. 

 

Thank you very much. I was I afraid my query had devolved entirely into commentary on the Skyhold itself and would just disappear into the depths of the forum.

 

I will admit error. My shortsightedness concerning the garden is much more relevant on higher difficulties. Farming rarer herbs for advanced potions is extremely helpful, and I thank you for your insight. (I found though on normal a "pick as you go" strategy provided enough elfroot to handle anything.)

[Illydth]

Even on Normal, "Pick as you go" is not providing me enough of the Rarest herbs to get potion upgrades as quickly as I want them.  Specifically Vandal Aria, Rashvine Nettle and one other (I forget which).  I was able to get seeds for these and seed my way through potion upgrades faster than I was able to collect enough from farming.

 

With 5 pots instead of 2 pots this would have been even Easier, but alas, I didn't know what I was giving up.

[Arkwright99]

With 5 pots instead of 2 pots this would have been even Easier, but alas, I didn't know what I was giving up.

6 instead of 3 even.

 

FWIW, my experience in growing seeds is it's based on leaving and returning to Skyhold rather than (as far as I can tell at least) being timer based. Your first crop requires you to leave and return twice (the first time you return you'll see the plants are 'budding' but not yet fully grown) but thereafter - as long as you don't plant any new seeds - you'll get a fresh crop of six plants on each return visit. Definitely a superior upgrade to the Chantry Chapel; though I question why they have to be mutually exclusive in the first place. There are 10 quarries and 15 logging stands in the game and the Skyhold upgrades - as they currently stand - only require 5 quarries and 6 logging stands to complete so there's plenty of material to get the other three upgrades... if the game permitted such.