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[raging_monkey]

I think one could safely assume every non-Warden companion in DA:O gained some resistance to it too, seeing as none of them ever got Blight sickness...so, nay.

its my understanding that exposure to disease isnt automatic infection so theres that too XD

[TheRaccoon]

I always wonder, since Alexius can time-travel to the past, why didn't he just travel back to the time before his son was infected with the taint and prevent the whole tragedy?

[RobRam10]

I always wonder, since Alexius can time-travel to the past, why didn't he just travel back to the time before his son was infected with the taint and prevent the whole tragedy?

There is a note that explains this basically you cannot time-travel pre-breach (because that is what allows time travel to be possible).

[GenericEnemy]

Because the bad things that happen to writer's pets have no consequences.

 

Like bad things only happening to their alternative selfs.

 

Yeah because nothing bad has ever happened to the actual Leliana... 

[Dean_the_Young]

He's the most complex, and is sympathetic unlike Erimond Livius or Calpernia. His actions while reckless, were driven by a desire to save his son rather than a want to rule the world and he even admits that Corypheus's coming is not a good thing. Opinions? 

 

I was very pleasantly surprised when I chose to do the mage route. 'Tevinter Magister enslaver cultist mage-supremacist' could so easily have been a one-note charicature, a villain with no personality or redeeming figure.

 

Instead, Alexius was humanized by being a father: a selfish, ambitious, and ultimately antagonistic father, but a father none the less. In the past, and in the future, it was clear that no matter what else Alexius believed or claimed, what he cared about more than anything else, even power, was his son... and that his son loved him in return, despite his flaws.

 

This isn't to say that any and every Bioware villain would be improved by being a father out to save their child, but it certainly worked here for me.

[Br3admax]

I thought Corypheus was a better villain than Alexius.   

[Corwyn]

I thought Corypheus was a better villain than Alexius.   

I wasn't a huge fan of Corypheus he had a few scenes were he managed to come off as menacing but mostly I thought he was a typical villain with the generic goal of trying to take the over world/ become a god.  It didn't help that I felt like he was a retread as a villain and actually seemed like a pawn being used to charge the orb.

[Br3admax]

Well if you don't actually take the time to use the war table to study his past or go to the Temple of Dumat, you really only have yourself to blame. 

[herkles]

Well if you don't actually take the time to use the war table to study his past or go to the Temple of Dumat, you really only have yourself to blame. 

do you get to go to the temple if you sided with the mages?

[Mr.House]

Well if you don't actually take the time to use the war table to study his past or go to the Temple of Dumat, you really only have yourself to blame. 

Same, also if you helped the mages you also lose more stuff on Cory too, and get one oft hem ost boring villains bBoware has ever made, Samson.

[jellobell]

Because the bad things that happen to writer's pets have no consequences.

 

Like bad things only happening to their alternative selfs.

Uh...Leli became really scary and bloodthirsty in my PT. That seems like a real consequence.

[Mr.House]

do you get to go to the temple if you sided with the mages?

His shrine? Yes but it's not the same, no revelations about his vessel, no mention of that mage, you don't even get to collect his memories. It's just go in and attack Samsons camp(he escaped just as the attack happen)

 

Like I said above, Cory is alot better on the templar side because he does have more scenes and we explore his background alot more.

[Corwyn]

Well if you don't actually take the time to use the war table to study his past or go to the Temple of Dumat, you really only have yourself to blame. 

I did all those things I still think he's a boring stock villain for the most part.  Not terrible by any stretch I just never found him compelling, obviously you did that's fine we're allowed to have different opinions.

[gothicshark]

He's the most complex, and is sympathetic unlike Erimond Livius or Calpernia. His actions while reckless, were driven by a desire to save his son rather than a want to rule the world and he even admits that Corypheus's coming is not a good thing. Opinions?

Not disagreeing that Alexius is a well written villain, he is. But you need to exsplore Corypheus a bit more.

Spoiler

His Primary goal (evil goal) is to become God.

The reasons:

1: He was a Priest of Dumat who followed his gods will and breached the Veil and assaulted the "Golden City", what he saw:
-1a: the City was already corrupted.
-1b: There was no Maker to be seen.
2: After the mindless 1st blight He slept for a thousand years and was awakened by Wardens. What he saw:
-2a: A world with a religion with no actual God, and unanswered prayers.
-2b: His Homeland and Empire was no more, sure there was a Region of the world that was a pale shadow of Tevinter, but was no longer the shinning Human Civilization.
3: Magic was feared and stuffed away and unused.
-3a: Most Mages were slaves or prisoners.


-solution, become God the Maker, rise Tevinter up from the ashes, Return the world to a place of Magic Power. ie not a 2D villain who wants power because that's what villains want, muhahahaha, he is a fully realized character with real motivations that he can justify to himself as right and Just.

[Br3admax]

I did all those things I still think he's a boring stock villain for the most part.  Not terrible by any stretch I just never found him compelling, obviously you did that's fine we're allowed to have different opinions.

A man who wants to reform Tevinter, and sees his religion die around him, makes one last attempt at saving his gods. Only for it to end in tragedy. His gods killed because of him. His friends dead. The world changed and destroyed, his kingdom gone. He works to rebuild it. To undo his wrong, and in the end to he makes one last attempt at reversing everything, he calls out to all he holds dear and hears only silence and death. Nope, not compelling at all. But hey, Alexius' son got sick, so he turned a bunch of innocent people into spyglasses. 

[mrcrazyman]

Yes. That's why he was in a crouched ghoul pose in the future, and why Leliana's flesh was being harvested for taint-resistant tissue samples.

 

 

...Leliana has taint resistant tissue samples? Did being in the thick of the Blight give her that or something? 

 

 

WOAH what!? I missed that! Makes sense, but where can I find this info? *Dashes to dragonage wiki*

 

To the OP: Agreed. His motives weren't evil at their core, they were done for love. Very well done villain.

 

Yes it's behind a wall that needs to be bashed down. It's the reason why it looks like she has skin grafts all over her and why she knows what happened to Felix but won't tell. While the rest where just rotting in cells she was having her flesh removed on a routine basis just to keep Felix alive which explains her irritated attitude vs the companions more relaxed go with the flow attitudes. When you think about it though of the DAO companions Alistair, Dog, Wynne, Shale and Loghain are the only ones who shouldn't have died from over exposure given all the Blight and Darkspawn everywhere so it's not that crazy that she has some resistance.

 

here is the note

Spoiler

 

 

[Tyrannosaurus Rex]

Uh...Leli became really scary and bloodthirsty in my PT. That seems like a real consequence.

 

Leliana has always been blood thirsty and a monster.

[Corwyn]

A man who wants to reform Tevinter, and sees his religion die around him, makes one last attempt at saving his gods. Only for it to end in tragedy. His gods killed because of him. His friends dead. The world changed and destroyed, his kingdom gone. He works to rebuild it. To undo his wrong, and in the end to he makes one last attempt at reversing everything, he calls out to all he holds dear and hears only silence and death. Nope, not compelling at all. But hey, Alexius' son got sick, so he turned a bunch of innocent people into spyglasses. 

Alexius is fine for what he is, a minor villain, he's not supposed to be more compelling than the Corypheus and in all honesty I don't think he is.  That doesn't change the fact that in my opinion Corypheus was a middling villain.  Villains have never been why I enjoy Bioware games I play mostly for the companions and the journey along the way, with a few exceptions (Jade Empire, ME1 maybe a few others) I've never found Bioware villains that exciting.

 

Again I'm not trying to start some multipage argument it's just how I feel.

[dragonflight288]

Question, what the hell was Felix dying of? The taint?

 

Yup. In the future, there is a letter written by Alexius explaining he tried and tried to go back far enough in time to stop the darkspawn attacking the convoy that killed his wife and tainted his son. But time magic was limited to the Breach's existence, and so was unable to do it. 

 

Dorian later explains that Felix died of the taint. 

[Br3admax]

Alexius is fine for what he is, a minor villain, he's not supposed to be more compelling than the Corypheus and in all honesty I don't think he is. 

Considering the post you quoted was talking about how I found Cory more compelling than Alexius, that's kind of the point. And if Alexius is fine for his role, Corypheus certainly is for his. 

[Corwyn]

Considering the post you quoted was talking about how I found Cory more compelling than Alexius, that's kind of the point. And if Alexius is fine for his role, Corypheus certainly is for his. 

This might come off as worded oddly but I guess I'll try, Alexius is in my opinion an excellent minor villain whereas I find Corypheus to be a middle of the road major villain.  Corypheus has to win best villain almost by default, he is the guy the game spends it's time setting up for you to fight, but I thought Alexius played his role better.  

 

The more I think about it the more I'm convinced it might have been a mistake to have introduced Corypheus in the DLC, I might have found him a good deal more compelling if I had to gradually find out about him in this game rather than seeing him the first time and think oh it's Corypheus the Tevinter Magister again.

[AlexiaRevan]

Dunno if this was asked before..but..why didnt he just hand his son to the warden ? Didn't Flemeth say the only cure is to become one ? 

 

So much for daddy being smart...

 

I personally wasn't impressed by him . Leliana in the futur stole the Priiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiizeeee 

[Jaron Oberyn]

I thought Corypheus was a better villain than Alexius.   

 

Same. Corypheus was the best in the series to me. Followed by Alexius, Calpernia, then Arishok.

[myahele]

I guess Alexius knew that the joining wasn't 100 percent guaranteed to save his Only Child; the Wardens were in leagues with Cory, so Alexius should've found out sooner or later about the joining. Either way the Joining only slows down the taint.

That and lolplot

[Chrys]

Dunno if this was asked before..but..why didnt he just hand his son to the warden ? Didn't Flemeth say the only cure is to become one ? 

 

Yeah... My guess is that he didn't know, at least at first, since it is a secret that becoming a Warden gives a tainted person more time. In DA2 we only know because of Flemeth and Anders. Corypheus probably didn't want him to know and kept the Wardens from him.