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[Ghost Gal]

https://youtu.be/7jRKr8E9Tn0?t=9

 

If you are going to judge an in game character and dismiss or accept their dialogue based on what you think of them, then i'm not providing you with anything.

 

1) "That, over there, is a full tavern. But everyone's drinking alone." What's her solution to people drinking alone in a tavern? Have Maryden liven up the music? Put on a dance party? Go start a lively discussion that'll get people laughing and talking together? Pass out free drinks? Nope, go play pranks on the advisers. That'll clearly work.

 

2) She literally says she's doing this for herself, not them. "I can't have fun with everybody whinging." Clearly, their happiness is not her objective.

 

3) She also shows her complete disconnect from reality when the Inquisition questions her logic. Inquisitor: "I don't understand how annoying my people will help." Her answer? "Oh, sure, they'll complain. But what they'll really mean is, 'thank you for distracting me from the end of the stupid world.' " What??? So, literally nothing anyone says matters. If they say they like the pranks, she'll congratulate herself on a job well-done. But if people say they don't like the pranks, she chooses to interpret it as them secretly enjoying it. 

 

She clearly just wants to put on pranks because she enjoys pranking people (literally "knock a few down," as she enjoys knocking people down), then tell herself it's for other people and say they secretly like it, even if/when they tell her they don't like it. That's not proof that Sera puts on the pranks to raise morale, it's proof that she did it for herself. It also doesn't prove that anyone wanted her to put on pranks, or that they got a laugh afterwards.

[straykat]

Sera seems to symbolize my stance with the whole game. I like her, but not DAI. Apparently, it's reversed for many others.

 

If it was up to me, there'd be a whole game of her shenanigans... and other rogue-ish characters. I wish the Inquisitor themselves had a more urban background in general.. and the game was mostly politics and screwing over nobles.

 

It's probably why I like Hawke too. 

[KaiserShep]

If it was up to me, there'd be a whole game of her shenanigans... and other rogue-ish characters. I wish the Inquisitor themselves had a more urban background in general.. and the game was mostly politics and screwing over nobles.

 

It's probably why I like Hawke too. 

 

 

I did like screwing over people in DA2, especially while sporting a defiant attitude about it. 

 

The magistrate will have your head!

 

​Better men have tried….and failed. And then Hawke totally slits the magistrate's son's throat. 

 

And then going off to Orlais and killing a Duke. Can it get any better than that? 

[Animechick69]

You know what else is annoying?

Long, pseudo intellectual drivel, and all this about a pixel, fictional character.
Do you realise how immature that is?

[straykat]

You know what else is annoying?

Long, pseudo intellectual drivel, and all this about a pixel, fictional character.
Do you realise how immature that is?

 

*makes fart noises*

[dragonagenewbie]

All this videom proves is that your defense for her is wrong. She literally says she is doing this for herself because she can't have fun with people being like they are. She assumes that people will think different from what they say. When the Inquisitor says they think she is wrong, she says it works for her so that means she is right. So you want me to trust her word, okay then her word says you are wrong. 

 

I never said anything about her efforts being unselfish.  I simply said that she noticed morale was low and she was looking for ways to cheer people up. 

[jlb524]

Sera seems to symbolize my stance with the whole game. I like her, but not DAI. Apparently, it's reversed for many others.

If it was up to me, there'd be a whole game of her shenanigans... and other rogue-ish characters. I wish the Inquisitor themselves had a more urban background in general.. and the game was mostly politics and screwing over nobles.

It's probably why I like Hawke too.

What about the dwarf Inquisitor? (Unless you don't like dwarves I suppose). I'm playing one now and it's more fun for me than the other backgrounds.

[dragonagenewbie]

What about the dwarf Inquisitor? (Unless you don't like dwarves I suppose). I'm playing one now and it's more fun for me than the other backgrounds.

 

I tried to play a dwarf lol but hearing the regular VO on a dwarf was a bit of a turnoff.  They should have gotten some scottish people to do the dwarf voiceovers imo.

 

Sera seems to symbolize my stance with the whole game. I like her, but not DAI. Apparently, it's reversed for many others.

 

If it was up to me, there'd be a whole game of her shenanigans... and other rogue-ish characters. I wish the Inquisitor themselves had a more urban background in general.. and the game was mostly politics and screwing over nobles.

 

It's probably why I like Hawke too. 

 

It kinda makes me wonder about the kinds of characters that the "i hate Sera and Viv" people *do* want to see in game.  Do they expect to have a whole bunch of companions that are pretty and handsome...but not pretty and handsome the way that other pretty and handsome characters are pretty and handsome? do they want every companion to have deep and meaningful conversations with them? do they want every companion to be likeable? or are they ok with having a few that they dislike? as long as they dislike the person in a way that they think is acceptable (wat?!). 

 

Also on a side note...the other day i realized that Sera has a a bit more dev attention compared to other comps.  She's a companion that has her own tavern song...with her name in it.  I believe Viv does too but her name isn't mentioned in it.  Sera is the only companion with the armor quirk where she is an elf race but has "human trained" tags.  She has a journal which updates based on quest/world progression on the barrel outside her tavern room and i hear there's another journal in Trespasser.  Do any of the other companions have any kinds of weird quirks or tidbits like that?

[GoldenGail3]

You know what else is annoying?

Long, pseudo intellectual drivel, and all this about a pixel, fictional character.
Do you realise how immature that is?

Why are you here than? 

[KaiserShep]

I tried to play a dwarf lol but hearing the regular VO on a dwarf was a bit of a turnoff.  They should have gotten some scottish people to do the dwarf voiceovers imo.

 

 

It wouldn't be the first time BioWare changed the accent of a race/faction (the Dalish in DA:O compared to DA2/Inquisition), but I rather like that BioWare didn't make the dwarves sound like pretty much every dwarf in every other fantasy. 

[jlb524]

Dwarves never had Scottish accents in DA. The lack of "Dalish" accent for the Inquisitor in DAI is annoying though.

[dragonagenewbie]

1) "That, over there, is a full tavern. But everyone's drinking alone." What's her solution to people drinking alone in a tavern? Have Maryden liven up the music? Put on a dance party? Go start a lively discussion that'll get people laughing and talking together? Pass out free drinks? Nope, go play pranks on the advisers. That'll clearly work.

 

2) She literally says she's doing this for herself, not them. "I can't have fun with everybody whinging." Clearly, their happiness is not her objective.

 

3) She also shows her complete disconnect from reality when the Inquisition questions her logic. Inquisitor: "I don't understand how annoying my people will help." Her answer? "Oh, sure, they'll complain. But what they'll really mean is, 'thank you for distracting me from the end of the stupid world.' " What??? So, literally nothing anyone says matters. If they say they like the pranks, she'll congratulate herself on a job well-done. But if people say they don't like the pranks, she chooses to interpret it as them secretly enjoying it. 

 

She clearly just wants to put on pranks because she enjoys pranking people (literally "knock a few down," as she enjoys knocking people down), then tell herself it's for other people and say they secretly like it, even if/when they tell her they don't like it. That's not proof that Sera puts on the pranks to raise morale, it's proof that she did it for herself. It also doesn't prove that anyone wanted her to put on pranks, or that they got a laugh afterwards.

 

While you and Honoko are focusing on how Sera was doing it all for herself, how her reasoning didnt make sense, how she blew off Inky's objections to her pranks i'm wondering how many soldiers and staff she made smile with her (selfish) antics.  I know that there are at least 3 people who weren't happy namely the advisors.  Well...4 people if you count the person that had to clean up Josephines mess or 6 if we count you and Honoko hehehe.

[dragonagenewbie]

It wouldn't be the first time BioWare changed the accent of a race/faction (the Dalish in DA:O compared to DA2/Inquisition), but I rather like that BioWare didn't make the dwarves sound like pretty much every dwarf in every other fantasy. 

 

Well TBH anything at all to differentiate one race from another. It just feels weird playing all the races and having i think two voices available for each sex.  At least you DAI guys dont have it as bad as ME3.  When i realized that femshep was voiced by the SWTOR fem trooper i was like "laaaaaame".  She talks the exact same way for femshep and the trooper using that same gung-ho sounding voice.  Like she couldnt have altered her voice a little bit or pinched her nostrils or something?

[jlb524]

While you and Honoko are focusing on how Sera was doing it all for herself, how her reasoning didnt make sense, how she blew off Inky's objections to her pranks i'm wondering how many soldiers and staff she made smile with her (selfish) antics. I know that there are at least 3 people who weren't happy namely the advisors. Well...4 people if you count the person that had to clean up Josephines mess or 6 if we count you and Honoko hehehe.

Leliana probably didn't mind the pranks. Well, she wasn't pranked but she also likes doing them herself so you can take her off the list xD

[lynroy]

Wow. This turned into a successful necro.

[dragonagenewbie]

Leliana probably didn't mind the pranks. Well, she wasn't pranked but she also likes doing them herself so you can take her off the list xD

 

Yah her and Josephine seem like the playful type although maybe not to Sera-like levels.  Leliana has a line about how she met Josephine at a ball, but afterwards they snuck away and went to a real party.  Where Leliana says that someones small-clothes ended up pinned to a chantry board (and thats all she would say about that).  And Curly, opps sorry i mean Cullen *does* get into a game of strip Wicked Grace with the whole gang.  Again not to Sera-like levels but he does get in there.  Also i believe he has some random dialogue where he says "when i find out what Sera has done in here i'm going to...do...something back".  So maybe he's a bit of a prankster too but we just are never shown it. 

 

Maybe thats something i'll have to explore more with the advisors on my next playthrough.

 

EDIT: ohh wait, whats this?

 

• Josephine: Inquisitor, you should know that your spymaster is an incorrigible prankster.
• Leliana: I don't know what you're talking about.
• Josephine: My, my things, in the courtyard.
• Leliana: The ruffles were very festive.
• Josephine: Leliana!

[KaiserShep]

Dwarves never had Scottish accents in DA. The lack of "Dalish" accent for the Inquisitor in DAI is annoying though.

 

 

It's disappointing really. If that accent was available, I'd use it for my human Inquisitor as well. 

[dragonagenewbie]

OK so i did some digging up in some videos and now i'm wondering...

 

Leliana is definately a prankster according to in game dialogue.  Cullen might be one, though maybe not a good one because he has a line that goes "when i find out Sera has been in here i'm going to do something back".  By here he means his office and he sounds a bit unsure of himself so it sounds like he wants to play along? does he want to prank her back?  Of course me thinking that Cullen wants to do some pranks of his own is just speculation.  But your Spymaster is a prankster, your Commander doesnt sound like the type to get butthurt over getting pranked. So does Sera not get a free pass because she's ugly?

[dragonagenewbie]

You know what else is annoying?

Long, pseudo intellectual drivel, and all this about a pixel, fictional character.
Do you realise how immature that is?

 

You know normally i'd agree with you and that this stuff shouldnt really matter...

 

But i've seen people on the forums calling for this character to be removed from the game.  I'm not worried about about them getting removed from this game but what about the next? You know that I hate Vivienne as a character? but you dont see me whining on the forums asking for no more Vivienne in DA3, DA4, DA5 or DA11.    You dont see me saying that kind of **** because I'm not a selfish a-hole.  I'm not going to deprive other players, REAL PLAYERS of her presence in a game especially if they like her just because I don't like her. 

 

To me it makes no difference that this character or that character is just a bunch of pixels in a video game.  Me saying i dont want her in game cause i dont like her is like me saying that i dont like this one chapter in a Harry Potter book so take it out.  That doesnt just go for her that goes for ANY character in game.  She is entertainment...she can be a bunch of pixels, a chapter in a book, a movie, a painting i dont give a crap...she has entertainment value for ME.  And for someone to ask for that to be taken away from me (from a company that is well known for carrying characters over from game to game) is IMO a dickish thing to do.

[The Elder King]

Sera seems to symbolize my stance with the whole game. I like her, but not DAI. Apparently, it's reversed for many others.
 
If it was up to me, there'd be a whole game of her shenanigans... and other rogue-ish characters. I wish the Inquisitor themselves had a more urban background in general.. and the game was mostly politics and screwing over nobles.
 
It's probably why I like Hawke too.

No DA game is that focused on those things though. Even DA2 wasn't focused on screwing nobles, and we became one during the game. It's not what they want to do with DA.

On Sera, I understand people not liking her and her pranks. I don't see them as bully acts though.

[Animechick69]

Why are you here than?

To laugh. And see what frightens old women so.

[Bayonet Hipshot]

Wow. This turned into a successful necro.

 

Viuus Anaxas Greatly Approves.

[straykat]

What about the dwarf Inquisitor? (Unless you don't like dwarves I suppose). I'm playing one now and it's more fun for me than the other backgrounds.

 

It does that have quality, but no. I'm not interested in a dwarf here. And I'm kind of resentful that archetypes are tied to races. Rather than classes. All rogues should be open ended enough. Whoever thought all human players wanted Chantry ties is a fool. They should've already known as much from Sebastian. He's probably the most milquetoast, unlikable character they've made. Fat chance you'll find many rogue players who want that out of their own characters.

[Animechick69]

You know normally i'd agree with you and that this stuff shouldnt really matter...

But i've seen people on the forums calling for this character to be removed from the game. I'm not worried about about them getting removed from this game but what about the next? You know that I hate Vivienne as a character? but you dont see me whining on the forums asking for no more Vivienne in DA3, DA4, DA5 or DA11. You dont see me saying that kind of **** because I'm not a selfish a-hole. I'm not going to deprive other players, REAL PLAYERS of her presence in a game especially if they like her just because I don't like her.

To me it makes no difference that this character or that character is just a bunch of pixels in a video game. Me saying i dont want her in game cause i dont like her is like me saying that i dont like this one chapter in a Harry Potter book so take it out. That doesnt just go for her that goes for ANY character in game. She is entertainment...she can be a bunch of pixels, a chapter in a book, a movie, a painting i dont give a crap...she has entertainment value for ME. And for someone to ask for that to be taken away from me (from a company that is well known for carrying characters over from game to game) is IMO a dickish thing to do.

I agree one hundred percent which is why I said it in the first place; pointing out the irony of it all.

I mean, this thread is old. Somebody necros it, and straight away people flock to it to have their high and mighty, morally superior two cents worth.

Its ironic how people here first complain about how immature or stupid or whatever is they think, then base it on "she's racist against elves", "she transphobic", or "she should get in trouble for insubordination."

Christ on a stick, you would think she was a neo Nazi running for President the way these people carry on about it, ignoring one simple fact; she isn't real. She's a fictional character that was clearly well written to have this sort of effect on people.

But hey, the BSN is a virtual nuthouse. I'm sorry, but people seem to think they're elves in real life; or that the Inquisition is some sort of real life military organisation.

I personally hope that BioWare and pretty much writers everywhere ignore the cesspit of humans who can't tell fiction from reality and demand that they don't write certain content. Because then they're giving into the destruction of creative freedom, when really all they should do is give them a middle finger salute and tell them to grow up.

[GoldenGail3]

To laugh. And see what frightens old women so.

Are you the lord Seeker?