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[Nathair Nimheil]

it's just another form of her constant need to "devalue" authority figures.

Corphy-fish, an authority figure?

 

She says it "Why should I show him the respect of using his name?" Stupid, she is not.

[robertthebard]

Errr....Why are people arguing about jobs & Affirmative action in a Sera thread?

Because Sera needs a job, dammit.

[robertthebard]

Corphy-fish, an authority figure?
 
She says it "Why should I show him the respect of using his name?" Stupid, she is not.

In all fairness, he is sort of an authority figure, for the bad guys, but yeah.

[XxPrincess(x)ThreatxX]

Corphy-fish, an authority figure?
 
She says it "Why should I show him the respect of using his name?" Stupid, she is not.

I just thought that was her excuse for being unable to pronounce his name properly

[WarBaby2]

I just thought that was her excuse for being unable to pronounce his name properly

Again, she is not stupid, not at all... she just doesn't give a sh*t, especially when it concerns people she doesn't deem respectable.

[robertthebard]

No. I don't know the actual details behind your anecdote and did not wish to become entangled in it. It sounds, from your rendition, like a person incapable of doing the job was employed to do it. You assert that it was directly due to some affirmative action policy or other. If this is actually the case then it was clearly an ill considered or a poorly executed policy. However I think we can all agree that incompetence can be found anywhere, inept workers unable to meet the requirements of the job were not invented by affirmative action. Most important though is that adjusting standards to meet a broader social requirement does not require an either/or approach; selection should be influenced between otherwise qualified candidates. If your policy results in employing people who can not do the job, you're doing it wrong.

An excellent example is in employing doctors in Nunavut. Emphasis is placed on hiring indigenous doctors. Indigenous is preferred, doctor is required. Anything else would be insane.

Which was kind of my point, people are doing it wrong, and they're doing it wrong because they have to meet a certain quota to stay qualified for State and Federal funding. From the outside it looks like a good idea, especially if you don't ever anticipate finding yourself in a situation where it will directly affect you. From this side of the glass, it's an entirely different picture, where funding takes precedence over common sense. I don't care who winds up with a job, as long as they are qualified to do it. That's my whole beef with Affirmative Action, and since it's been an in my face issue, I'm not going to forget about it any time soon.

[Heimdall]

I just thought that was her excuse for being unable to pronounce his name properly

To be fair, I stumbled over his pronunciation a few times when he was first introduced. "Coryfufus... Coryphifefus... Coryphineus..."

She just makes a game out of finding new ways to say Coryphetits though

[KaiserShep]

I just thought that was her excuse for being unable to pronounce his name properly

 

Coryphy-what's-his-lumps is less threatening when his name is mangled.

[KaiserShep]

Because Sera needs a job, dammit.

 

Technically, if Sera is permitted to stick with the Inquisition, just being there to go out on the field with the Inquisitor is kind of a job in itself. Kill things and loot their bodies. Profit.

[WarBaby2]

Which was kind of my point, people are doing it wrong, and they're doing it wrong because they have to meet a certain quota to stay qualified for State and Federal funding. From the outside it looks like a good idea, especially if you don't ever anticipate finding yourself in a situation where it will directly affect you. From this side of the glass, it's an entirely different picture, where funding takes precedence over common sense.

True, and the social idologs are starting to notice that too, so they have moved on to influence what the people they are fighting for have to want, just to keep their narrative (and thus them self) valid... change peoples identities, and you change their goals in life. Take a look at US universities, and you know what I mean.

 

...and yes, that also explains their sudden interest in games. Not GAMERS, mind you, but games, since gamers in general don't care for identity politics: Solution - get the right people to play games.

 

Anyways... off topic over from my side.^^

[Nimrodell]

Of course, she get's them wrong on purpose, you know that... she's hardly stupid, it's just another form of her constant need to "devalue" authority figures.

 

I never said she was stupid. 

[XxPrincess(x)ThreatxX]

To be fair, I stumbled over his pronunciation a few times when he was first introduced. "Coryfufus... Coryphifefus... Coryphineus..."

She just makes a game out of finding new ways to say Coryphetits though

It is a mouthful of a name, ive mispronounced it like Sera too

[Nimrodell]

And Coryphenus is my favorite... laughed like crazy.

[wolfhowwl]

She took their breeches.

[KaiserShep]

And Coryphenus is my favorite... laughed like crazy.

 

I kind of wonder how many different names she actually has in the game files for any banter or dialogue I may have missed. I'm pretty certain I went through as much dialogue as possible with each companion, but who knows.

[celestialfury]

That analogy isn't not even remotely relevant to what I'm talking about. A better analogy, the Syrian refugee and I are both applying for a job I am more qualified for and you give him the job because you're legally mandated to favor Syrian refugees over me. 

 

ha, yes. Telling that people like you always think you're automatically better than the minority given a shot. 

[Heimdall]

ha, yes. Telling that people like you always think you're automatically better than the minority given a shot. 

Not at all what I suggested.  It could just as easily happen that I was the less qualified, in which case the refugee would get the job under fair circumstances.  That scenario, however, isn't the issue.  To illustrate my point I need to describe the equally likely problematic scenario.

 

But hey, dismiss me as a racist if it makes you more comfortable.  Go right ahead.

[Seraphim24]

This has to be the most spectacularly derailed thread I've ever seen.

 

Let me see if I can make a contribution

 

The post-racial dichotomy of privileged aristocratic narcissism has plagued all socioeconomic egalitarian efforts of Lasizezz-Faire esque social norming to make triple fortified gender bisexual master race egotism an affront to western eastern capitalist pernicious confucian whale hunting. Privilege.

 

I also like pancakes and pie.

 

As to Sera.. well she seems fairly gentle to me.. could of sworn that was a cool thing..

[celestialfury]

Not at all what I suggested.  It could just as easily happen that I was the less qualified, in which case the refugee would get the job under fair circumstances.  That scenario, however, isn't the issue.  To illustrate my point I need to describe the equally likely problematic scenario.

 

But hey, dismiss me as a racist if it makes you more comfortable.  Go right ahead.

 

I didn't need your blessing, but thanks anyways.

[Heimdall]

I didn't need your blessing, but thanks anyways.

If you'd rather put words in my mouth and dismiss me than have a dialogue about a complicated issue, I don't want to waste either of our time.

[Britcorp]

I think what is most telling is SJW's advocate and support institutionalized racism to fight the racism they perceive. On top of that if you disagree with their support of institutionalized racism you're a racist.

That's some serious mental gymnastics.

[KaiserShep]

Man, that Sera. What a wildcard, amirite?

[Danadenassis]

Errr....Why are people arguing about jobs & Affirmative action in a Sera thread?

 

You come in at page 50 and want a very short version? Or did you pay attention to the whole thread, but just didn't understand the last 20 pages?

 

In short: Why do a lot of people hate Sera, then people argue why with back and forth on why she act like she does, like: Does she have a problem with everyone, authorities, or is it more thought behind it? Does she react against discrimination from the nobles (like people in power systematically killing and abusing others), or are her reactions discrimination in themselves?

 

Then someone make posts about positive discrimination being bad. One comments that positive discrimination isn't needed, that it evens out eventually. Some flat out denies that privilege exists (for instance related to gender, colour, ethnicity, economy/birth/station) and that the perceived privilege is just circumstances that shouldn't be tried to be compensated for. Some mention that Sera's attitude is similar to the ones that make it so problematic for those that get associated with privileged groups because it is as if they are supposed to feel a personal guilt for the past, a past sometimes long before their own birth. Some mean that advantages from discrimination doesn't mean that the victims of this discrimination should just come here and expect that the differences should be evened out, because that would be discriminating against those that are fortunate to gain from discrimination.

 

I would claim that it is very related thoughts to Sera and her performance in the game Dragon Age: Inquisition. Especially since she talk about this, but in different words than us of course.

 

The debate flows with many conflicting perspectives, obviously. That is why you'll see various examples from our current physical world to illustrate and clearify.

 

I am not sure if we all could agree on Nobles doing something wrong in killing someone without consequences, so it is really hard to see some ideas and ideals we all got in common.

 

I think that is where we stand atm.

 

 

Because Sera needs a job, dammit.

 

I see. That was a rather disappointing reply.

[Steelcan]

how do you mispronounce Corypheus, he says it like twelve seconds after you meet him

[Nathair Nimheil]

how do you mispronounce Corypheus

Intentionally.

 

(Try to keep up.)