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Why do a lot of people hate Sera?


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As far as I know:

Sera approves of “because it’s right”, “Corypheus must be stopped”, “lead them to vengeance”, “a dwarf/qunari will stand for us all”.

Sera disapproves of “a servant of faith” and “an elf will stand for us all”.


She approves of the mage specific one as well.

'I will set an example for mages'.
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robertthebard

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She approves of the mage specific one as well.

'I will set an example for mages'.


I'm fixing to find that one out, as my mage is next.

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She approves of the mage specific one as well.

'I will set an example for mages'.

Yeah, I guess that makes sense.

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Alright, I did the Sera romance and I'll take back some of what I said. She's not a bad person and she doesn't necessarily hate mages. She's afraid, she's afraid of things she doesn't understand, religion, magic, the breach. All manner of weirdness scares here. And she reacts in the only way she knows how, anger and arrows. 

 

I actually kind of like her once i realized the hatred wasn't real hatred, just a lack of understanding. 


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Sera opposes Briala because despite her claims to help her people, she's willing to sacrifice them to maintain her position and for the "greater good" of her people making Briala exactly the kind of person that Sera despises. Yet, Sera seems to have no problem with letting either Celene or Gaspard take the throne even though the both of them also manipulate lives for their own benefit. The reason? Because as long as one of them takes the throne, the status quo (which Sera wants back) is returned to Orlais. Sera doesn't like the two of them at all but is willing to compromise about this as long as it is for the "greater good" of the common folk and for the status quo that Sera clings to.



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I must say the last few pages there seems to have been an improvement in overall understanding. Some people still don't like her but seem to back off the "evil" and "malicious sociopath" discussion in favor of "well why are some people more favorable towards her character?"

 

I'm glad this kind of process could happen in a video game.. different and competing characters with forceful personalities engendering discussion.... with the result being even greater understanding. It's almost like.. that's what made Bioware the company it is today.. or something..... hrm... was that the point? It was... wasn't it?


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I dislike Sera because she is designed to be a chav. She uses chav language, I think that is classist and tasteless of them to do.

 
She doesn't sound like a chav, the sort of people who still seem to prefer unconvincing attempts at sounding like Yardies, nor does she particularly behave like one; she's just a bit rough round the edges.  I suppose her speech isn't that different to mine, although I draw the line at "innit".

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She doesn't sound like a chav, the sort of people who still seem to prefer unconvincing attempts at sounding like Yardies, she's just a bit rough round the edges.  I suppose her speech isn't that different to mine, although I draw the line at "innit".


NOOOOOooooo, you have to keep "innit", it's like a trademark thing.

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NOOOOOooooo, you have to keep "innit", it's like a trademark thing.


argh D:

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Sera's views on the Dalish are harsh but not unfounded. Yet, after the events of the Temple of Mythal, Sera just seems downright insensitive towards them. In fact, just as the Dalish look down on City Elves, Sera looks down on the Dalish with almost the same amount of arrogance and insensitivity which is intensified after the Mythal quest and the aftermath of the Solas romance. 

 

She doesn't seem to accept that with the revelation that the Ancient Elves were brought down by their own arrogance (again, keeping true to the Dragon Age recurring theme of how pride can be the downfall of a civilization), the Dalish can finally stop being so arrogant and start moving on from their past. Instead, she's content with making fun of a people who have endured humiliation and defeat countless times.

 

A Dalish Inquisitor could feel offended by Sera's insensitivity towards her kind and way of life. Sera wanted to help the common folk because they were the ones to treat her fairly first and will always defend them. Yet, she gets upset when a Dalish Inquisitor is trying to help their own people as well as defending them, not being considerate enough to think "Hey, the Dalish may be jerks but they are the Inquisitor's family so maybe I should be a little nicer?". Nope, she retains her prejudiced views on the Dalish.

 

That's the thing about prejudice. Even the most noble of souls could be brought down by their own prejudice views. This attributes to Sera's hypocritical nature. That she herself can also be as arrogant as Briala regardless of her good intentions.


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I am bit surprised someone wants to kill her. You that do, do you find it so dangerous that if you don't like a woman do you have to kill her? Why not just kick her out of the inquisition?



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I am bit surprised someone wants to kill her. You that do, do you find it so dangerous that if you don't like a woman do you have to kill her? Why not just kick her out of the inquisition?

 

For the glory of the murder knife of course!

 

It's the usual reaction on the BSN to demand an option to murder everbody who doesn't agree with you.


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I don't hate Sera personally but lot of people do because many times she can be painfully childish and other reason is  because of that whole thing when you play as Dalish and discover what your tattoos really mean then Sera goes pretty much mocking you and throwing sh*t in your face for thinking that Dalish were special when only things they ever were are slaves.That is the thing that made so many people hate her.


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I don't hate Sera personally but lot of people do because many times she can be painfully childish and other reason is  because of that whole thing when you play as Dalish and discover what your tattoos really mean then Sera goes pretty much mocking you and throwing sh*t in your face for thinking that Dalish were special when only things they ever were are slaves.That is the thing that made so many people hate her.

 

It's kind of hilarious. I didn't play a dalish here, but I did like my Dalish warden.

 

For it all to be crap... It's so sad I have to laugh at it. I don't blame her.


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Solas is just a hypocrite in that conversation, he'll call himself a individual 1st, elf 2nd which is exactly how Sera see's herself when discussing Briala but get all "Sera doesn't act elfy enough to be a real elf" when asked about the gift

 

Yet nobody is condemning him for being such a hypocrite and a race supermachist. Do you see threads about it? Na. ;)


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It's kind of hilarious. I didn't play a dalish here, but I did like my Dalish warden.

 

For it all to be crap... It's so sad I have to laugh at it. I don't blame her.

 

True it's funny how Dalish were entire time "We are the last of the Elvhenan." the when they used to say for city elf "They given their identity to live amongs shemlen hey are Elvhenan no more." I find that part funny too because it turns out that they were true Elvhenan while Dalish were just slaves that later on rebel and destroyed their own home-world that they talk about so much lol Yeah it is funny and as I said I don't hate Sera at all but lot of people hate her because she went and laughed at their Dalish Inquisitor face for this.



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I am bit surprised someone wants to kill her. You that do, do you find it so dangerous that if you don't like a woman do you have to kill her? Why not just kick her out of the inquisition?

 

 To be fair, Sera goes around murdering nobles without due process. So it isn't like you have no cause for sentencing her to death.



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 To be fair, Sera goes around murdering nobles without due process. So it isn't like you have no cause for sentencing her to death.

 

But which nobles? I get the feeling that when people say they want to kill her, they don't want to have her stand before the throne, but rather simply murder knife her Warden style, which, ironically, would be denying her due process as well. After all, the Inquisitor doesn't know anything about anything she's done in the past, and can't prove it, but can presume and just throw about authority and do what s/he pleases. 

 

Anyway, it all seems kind of irrelevant. Seems to me that her being annoying is a far greater crime here than anything she might have done in the past. 


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I am bit surprised someone wants to kill her. You that do, do you find it so dangerous that if you don't like a woman do you have to kill her? Why not just kick her out of the inquisition?

That's what I did. I told her  I didn't want her around anymore. I only did it to see what would happen. She made some facial expression and left.


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Yet nobody is condemning him for being such a hypocrite and a race supermachist. Do you see threads about it? Na. ;)

That's because Solas is mature and has enough redeeming qualities to compensate. Above all, he is sometimes willing to admit that he was wrong about something and to be a little more open-minded next time. Character development which is something Sera lacked.


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I found Sera to be a thoroughly entertaining and engaging delight. Wonderfully written and performed. Kudos to all involved.

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That's because Solas is mature and has enough redeeming qualities to compensate. Above all, he is sometimes willing to admit that he was wrong about something and to be a little more open-minded next time. Character development which is something Sera lacked.


It's too bad he turned out to be a huge liar in the end.
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Yet nobody is condemning him for being such a hypocrite and a race supermachist. Do you see threads about it? Na. ;)


I can't stand him. I find him to be an utter pain in the arse, bloody miserable arrogant patronising supremacist git that he is. At least Sera is honest and has some principles, whether or not one agrees with them.
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Dorian, the false egomaniac - he puts up bluster but, he's not really that conceited or confident. Solas, mature, aloof but understanding and patient. Blackwall, liar but he is trying to be a better man and, he's honest about it once it comes to light. Varric, well he's Varric and busy blaming himself for DA:II. Viv, high brow snob but can be reasoned with though she disproves, she understands. Sera idiot that refuses to even try to learn, she'd rather get mad and stay stupid, or run form what she doesn't understand instead of learning and growing. Claims she want's to see if it's all really real but won't see that it might be when it isn't as simple and solid as her little pea brain wants it to be - total contradiction and entirely stupid IMO.


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That's because Solas is mature and has enough redeeming qualities to compensate. Above all, he is sometimes willing to admit that he was wrong about something and to be a little more open-minded next time. Character development which is something Sera lacked.


Yeah, he stepped right up and told us all how he was one of the causes of our current dilemma right from the start. Wait, no he didn't, that sly fox...