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[HereticDante]

I was just wondering, does Inquisition resolve who is going to succeed alistair (solo) or alistair & anora? I haven't finished all the side quests yet so I just wondering if I missed anything. Like Alistair and Anora having a kid or Alistair marrying someone else and having a child etc.

 

*I only didn't mention Anora because I presume since the text states she doesn't marry anyone and I presume she isn't going to suddenly raise a bastard. Then again, I suppose it wouldn't stop a determined woman like her.

[New Kid]

Near as I can tell, not at all.

[KiwiQuiche]

He's got Goldana his sister- probably groom one of her kids not to be as stupid and selfish as she is to be an heir.

[robertthebard]

I wasn't aware that that was also on our table, figuratively speaking. While some people do have Alistair on the throne, I think even the canon that BioWare uses for the novels/comics etc does, for my canon, Alistair is a drunk, dead, or a Warden with no claim to the throne, and Anora rules alone. In the event that she dies w/out an heir, which, based on what we learn in Origins could be possible, I'd suppose either Highever, or Redcliffe would be next in line.

[Cerulione]

I wasn't aware that that was also on our table, figuratively speaking. While some people do have Alistair on the throne, I think even the canon that BioWare uses for the novels/comics etc does, for my canon, Alistair is a drunk, dead, or a Warden with no claim to the throne, and Anora rules alone. In the event that she dies w/out an heir, which, based on what we learn in Origins could be possible, I'd suppose either Highever, or Redcliffe would be next in line.

 

Is it mentionned whether Arl Teagan got an heir? Eamon's kids are all mages (if Connor died in DA:O they'll get a girl with magical talent...). Either way, Fergus Cousland or Tegan Guerrin both have good chance to have heir.

[robertthebard]

Is it mentionned whether Arl Teagan got an heir? Eamon's kids are all mages (if Connor died in DA:O they'll get a girl with magical talent...). Either way, Fergus Cousland or Tegan Guerrin both have good chance to have heir.

I didn't notice anything, but I'm far from doing a completionist run yet. It's just that those two houses are the most prominent, is so far as I've noticed. Even an Alistair/Warden, Warden/Anora, or Alistair/Anora could end up the same way, however. Given the issues with the Taint and reproduction.

[Kulyok]

He's got Goldana his sister- probably groom one of her kids not to be as stupid and selfish as she is to be an heir.

 

Not possible, I'm afraid - Goldanna doesn't have king blood.

 

Also, why is she stupid and selfish? She's a hard-working woman who is trying to raise five kids without any help, and she earns barely enough to buy food(five bits for the bundle) - washing linen is _extremely_ hard work. Then a rich-looking noble man appears, wanting to be friends, but not even offering to put food on the table. And he was the reason she lost her mother and lost everything and nearly died as they shoved her out of the castle(a girl with a gold coin on the streets! I wonder if she got raped and robbed).

 

I believe we'll see a succession war, if the game would even get that far. I think not, though - losing Alistar and the Warden to the old age would be too much for the fans.

[robertthebard]

Not possible, I'm afraid - Goldanna doesn't have king blood.
 
Also, why is she stupid and selfish? She's a hard-working woman who is trying to raise five kids without any help, and she earns barely enough to buy food(five bits for the bundle) - washing linen is _extremely_ hard work. Then a rich-looking noble man appears, wanting to be friends, but not even offering to put food on the table. And he was the reason she lost her mother and lost everything and nearly died as they shoved her out of the castle(a girl with a gold coin on the streets! I wonder if she got raped and robbed).
 
I believe we'll see a succession war, if the game would even get that far. I think not, though - losing Alistar and the Warden to the old age would be too much for the fans.

Except that, even if you do offer to put food on her table, and help her out, she stays exactly the same. It's funny that this argument is applied to Sera to point out that she's selfish and stupid, but used to defend an NPC that is, likely, dead, since she lived in Battle of Denerim Central.

[sylvanaerie]

Except that, even if you do offer to put food on her table, and help her out, she stays exactly the same. It's funny that this argument is applied to Sera to point out that she's selfish and stupid, but used to defend an NPC that is, likely, dead, since she lived in Battle of Denerim Central.

 

IF your warden is a man, there is a line of dialogue that has her softening a little toward Alistair, but yea, she's pretty harsh in her response to him.  Understandable considering the life she's had to lead.

 

Spoiler

And ironically, as we learn in Inquisition, she's not really his sister.

 

No heir in sight in Inquisition, though I get a letter from Fergus Cousland, so I know he's doing alright.  Probably has a couple of kids.  The line of Calanhad will die out with Alistair (unless Morrigan's son is his).

[Patchwork]

Both Orlais and Ferelden's lack of an heir is bizarre. There doesn't even seem to be a backup plan in place i.e. Fergus if something happens to the ruling monarch.  

 

It makes them all look like short sighted fools. 

[MoonDrummer]

Orlais also seems to be lacking an heir depending on your choices

[Kantr]

Both Orlais and Ferelden's lack of an heir is bizarre. There doesn't even seem to be a backup plan in place i.e. Fergus if something happens to the ruling monarch.  

 

It makes them all look like short sighted fools. 

It's worse in Orlais than it is in Ferelden where they'll probably just choose another noble family

[Fufunette]

I think it s strange too cause heirs has always been one of the most important thing for nobles... o.o It looks like BW forgot to work on it.

And it s non sense for Alistair to become king to save Calenhad blood if he doesn t have child... u.U

[Patchwork]

It's worse in Orlais than it is in Ferelden where they'll probably just choose another noble family

 

True but considering the messy way Alistair and/or Anora gain the throne I would have thought they'd take steps to try make succession as painless as possible.

 

Celene...I know she supposed to be good at The Game but there's a serious lack of evidence to support it. She's nearing what forty? Has no children of her own, doesn't want to marry and naming an heir out of her many cousins at this stage will probably cause more problems than it solves. Does Gaspard have kid? IDR. 

[Akrabra]

We know that Anora is barren, or rumored to be and i bet that hasn't changed since DA:O. Which means that King Consort Cousland or King Alistair can't get her pregnant, so no heir there. Also Alistair and Queen consort Cousland both have the blight, and that makes it impossible to have children, atleast later on. Alistair states that all Wardens he knew that had children did so before they got the blight, or right after if i recall correctly. So Morrigans son from the dark ritual is likely the only heir. Considering the events of DA:I however and what the hero of Ferelden is doing, you never know. 

[Little Princess Peach]

my warden is looking for a -spoiler- so maybe she and king Alistair could have kids if sucessful

[Uriel]

Honestly, for all different possibilities to work well, I would see one of Teagan's children becoming Ferelden next ruler.

[HereticDante]

I know Bodahn mentions Anora being barren as a rumour but of course Cailan wasn't entirely faithful and there's no little theirin bastards running about (or at least none we know of) so it could have been cailan who was infertile. So in theory it would be possible for Alistair and Anora to have children. Hence, my original query.

[Ekliane]

We know that Anora is barren, or rumored to be.

 

Or Cailan was. He fooled around and never got a bastard ? Come on, it's like saying Henry VII's 6 wives were all infertile. That's just unfair.

 

I always hoped Fergus would marry Anora if she's Queen. It's a smooth move to ally the last 2 teyrnirs to the Crown...  I also don't believe King!Alistair would kill Anora after the Coronation either, so... She's the backup, perhaps ?

 

Maybe BioWare will find a may to blend whatever choice players made (Fergus ? Teagan ? We see him a lot). The Dragon age will see the end of the Calenhad line, perhaps ? I don't think there is a good reason for his blood to be on the throne, nor any oblivion gates threatening to open anyway. In the Stolen Throne, putting Moira/Maric on the throne is purely because fereldan are attached to the dynasty.

[KiwiQuiche]

Not possible, I'm afraid - Goldanna doesn't have king blood.

 

Also, why is she stupid and selfish? She's a hard-working woman who is trying to raise five kids without any help, and she earns barely enough to buy food(five bits for the bundle) - washing linen is _extremely_ hard work. Then a rich-looking noble man appears, wanting to be friends, but not even offering to put food on the table. And he was the reason she lost her mother and lost everything and nearly died as they shoved her out of the castle(a girl with a gold coin on the streets! I wonder if she got raped and robbed).

 

I believe we'll see a succession war, if the game would even get that far. I think not, though - losing Alistar and the Warden to the old age would be too much for the fans.

 

What does it matter? She's bloodrelated to the King; the closest bloodrelative via being a half-sister.  So why is it 'not possible'? And Maric got king blood 'cause he's a Reaver.

 

She's stupid because she's rude and standoffish rather than thinking "Hey this is a bro who could maybe help me with my garbage life, maybe I should be nice and see if he's willing to lend a hand rather than 'HEY GIMME GOLD LOSER' ".

[sylvanaerie]

I think it s strange too cause heirs has always been one of the most important thing for nobles... o.o It looks like BW forgot to work on it.

And it s non sense for Alistair to become king to save Calenhad blood if he doesn t have child... u.U

 

I don't think they forgot, I think it's deliberate.

 

Anora or Cailan both could have been infertile.  One is not mutually exclusive from the other.  I think by the way it's set up, that Bioware is going for a 'no heir' situation--and I expected it to have been addressed before now, but it may only be something that comes up in a future game as a codex or rumor of 'stuff happening down south in dog-lord land' if our characters are in Par Vollen or Tevinter.

[Medhia_Nox]

Well - as my Warden married Anora - Kieran Cousland, my normal son with Morrigan will be taking the throne thank you very much... if Anora gives my Warden any trouble, given that I'm nobility by birth, I'll just denounce her and have her head cut off and put my son from Morrigan on the throne anyway.

 

Anything else - is just Bioware headcanon.

[Uriel]

What does it matter? She's bloodrelated to the King; the closest bloodrelative via being a half-sister.  

In fact, she isn't at all.

[Ekliane]

In fact, she isn't at all.

 

Alistair doesn't know, tho.

[Ranadiel Marius]

Well - as my Warden married Anora - Kieran Cousland, my normal son with Morrigan will be taking the throne thank you very much... if Anora gives my Warden any trouble, given that I'm nobility by birth, I'll just denounce her and have her head cut off and put my son from Morrigan on the throne anyway.

Anything else - is just Bioware headcanon.

While Keiran has a strong claim to the throne (especially if Morrigan is Alistair's half sister), there are two issues with your head canon there. 1. Anora has higher rank than you so rebelling against her probably wouldn't work too well for you. 2. Keiran is probably a mage, so he can't hold title.