Ferelden's Heir?
#26
Posté 05 décembre 2014 - 02:26
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#27
Posté 05 décembre 2014 - 02:28
(especially if Morrigan is Alistair's half sister)
Ir was debunked in the comic, I guess.
#28
Posté 05 décembre 2014 - 02:56
Well I am not sure if there not more members of the Ferelden ruling dynasty. I mean its hundreds of years old and they had over a dozen kings, could some of them not have more then one son? Look at the Capets they are the second longest living dynasty that exists and the reason for that is because they had lots cadet branches. So who is to say that among all those bans and other nobles there is not a family that is a cadet of the ruling dynasty descended from the second or third son of king in Ferelden history but someone has to go to the archive and investigate.
Now Orlais clearly has a lot of members of the royal family but that is also a problem because people like power and they will fight to get it especially when they feel entitled that they should have it.
#29
Posté 05 décembre 2014 - 06:32
Fergus Cousland always, alistair will die for the taint as well as Cousland hero of ferelden and every hero of ferelden.
Kieran is alway a bastard/mage while Anora will die in some ways, Fergus is the next
#30
Posté 05 décembre 2014 - 06:37
Because she's related by the wrong side of the family. She's not part of the Therin line.What does it matter? She's bloodrelated to the King; the closest bloodrelative via being a half-sister.
#31
Posté 05 décembre 2014 - 06:43
The only living Theirin is Alistair, but then again he is half human half elf, if that was known he would not be on the throne. If the Hero of Ferelden can cure the calling, what will that mean? Will it remove the taint? or just remove the voices in the head whispering their time has come? If it can be removed like with Fiona it is possible that Alistair and the Warden or Anora can produce an heir. If the Qunari doesn't invade and crush Thedas to smitherins, or Fen'Harel ruins it, or the conflicts between Orlais and Ferelden start again with Gaspard as Emperor. Etc etc!
#32
Posté 05 décembre 2014 - 07:00
There are a ton of heirs around as my Warden had lots and lots of sex with Anora.
#33
Posté 05 décembre 2014 - 07:12
The only living Theirin is Alistair, but then again he is half human half elf, if that was known he would not be on the throne. If the Hero of Ferelden can cure the calling, what will that mean? Will it remove the taint? or just remove the voices in the head whispering their time has come? If it can be removed like with Fiona it is possible that Alistair and the Warden or Anora can produce an heir. If the Qunari doesn't invade and crush Thedas to smitherins, or Fen'Harel ruins it, or the conflicts between Orlais and Ferelden start again with Gaspard as Emperor. Etc etc!
I do not think it matters so much or at least it does not matter depending of who is the Hero of Ferelden in my opinion.
#34
Posté 05 décembre 2014 - 07:21
Fiona got pregnant with Alistair while she was blighted, it's possible for them (King Alistair and HoF Queen) to have heirs, it's just really hard. If the calling is cleared (seems to be the direction the story is taking) then this won't really be an issue either. If Alibear has a mistress, they could easily become the next in line since, he himself as a ba******* won the throne through vote in Denerim.
Couslands are the 2nd in line, iirc from lore, they're the next most noble house or Teagan's kids, if he married Bella the Bar Maid or the chick in the RedCliff chantry /w the sword quest.
#35
Posté 05 décembre 2014 - 07:56
While Keiran has a strong claim to the throne (especially if Morrigan is Alistair's half sister), there are two issues with your head canon there. 1. Anora has higher rank than you so rebelling against her probably wouldn't work too well for you. 2. Keiran is probably a mage, so he can't hold title.
Yeah I don't think either of those will matter. It will mostly depend on who dies first, Anora or (Kieran's Father). Hell if Loghain was the father than Kieran is definitely next in line by virtue of being Anora's half brother.
#36
Posté 05 décembre 2014 - 08:01
But she really isn't his sister and no one bothers to tell him the truth even after Alistair becomes king? I knew Arl Eamon was a bastard but I figured he would come clean with this bit of info.
#37
Posté 05 décembre 2014 - 08:04
I think the next pc will be on the Throne, if Alistair never marries or never has a child full stop then maybe the next pc if human can take the ferelden throne or the Orlisian one
#38
Posté 05 décembre 2014 - 08:27
Its strange the Anora could be the reigning queen just because she was married with the former ruler. Its not unheard of in our history but it happened only 2 times in thousands of years and they were not even 100 years apart those 2 reigning women. Its strange that they took that example and implemented it in this game.
Modifié par helpthisguyplease, 05 décembre 2014 - 09:23 .
#39
Posté 05 décembre 2014 - 09:03
Its strange the Anora could be the reigning queen just because she was married with the former ruler. Its not unheard of in our history but it happened only 2 times thousands of years and they were not even 100 years apart these 2 reigning women. Its strange that they took that example and implemented it in the game.
Not really. At the time, there was no one else. A bit later, we come along and show that there is, but really, when Cailan fell, very few actually knew that Alistair was an heir.
#40
Posté 05 décembre 2014 - 09:16
Not just because she was married, but because her father instituted a coup and the nobility saw her as the brains behind her husband.Its strange the Anora could be the reigning queen just because she was married with the former ruler. Its not unheard of in our history but it happened only 2 times thousands of years and they were not even 100 years apart these 2 reigning women. Its strange that they took that example and implemented it in the game.
#41
Posté 05 décembre 2014 - 09:18
Fergus Cousland always, alistair will die for the taint as well as Cousland hero of ferelden and every hero of ferelden.
Kieran is alway a bastard/mage while Anora will die in some ways, Fergus is the next
That would be correct, they wanted to make Bruce Cousland King instead of Calian and one of the reasons that Anora could even be considered queen or not was that the Coulsands were supposedly all dead.
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#42
Posté 05 décembre 2014 - 10:14
Of course, that theory goes down the toilet if he's dead or not king.
#43
Posté 05 décembre 2014 - 10:35
Is it mentionned whether Arl Teagan got an heir? Eamon's kids are all mages (if Connor died in DA:O they'll get a girl with magical talent...). Either way, Fergus Cousland or Tegan Guerrin both have good chance to have heir.
This is most likely if Alistair is never cured of the blight and never marries. That being said, the warden can have more than one reason to be off doing what the warden is doing and Alistair could always have an heir through some kind of magical means. I used to think there'd there's be no child because of the multitude of possible choices for endgame situation, but having character standins for some choices is working very well. Also, now that the keep exists, more people are going to try more options, which means lest possibility of investing in material that few might see. I think they have a very workable method in place for branching storylines now.
#44
Posté 05 décembre 2014 - 10:51
I assume the reason for the lack of heir is the sheer amount of choices regarding the endings of DAO. Bioware really haven't thought it out during the time of that game's release, thus the retcon of some of the epilogues of Awakening (and probably DAO itself), and the newer games not having as much choices.
Thus we'll most likely get a character unrelated to Alistair/Anora as the next king of Fereldan, if we ever get this far, which I doubt we will. Otherwise, too many combinations. Personally, I would have loved for Kieran to somehow work into this (two of three of his possible fathers make him a potential heir), but the fact that Dark Ritual was optional basically spells doom for the kid's relevance in the franchise's future (which is a pity, he has great potential even after DAI). In fact, I don't expect to see him again.
#45
Posté 06 décembre 2014 - 01:27
I'm not arguing that Kieran should be the next logical heir by any stretch, I was actually envisoning more of a throw away line of dialogue honestly, in the event of the Alistair rules alone or Anora and Alistair rule together scenarios. Something about the King and Queen celebrating the birth of the princess and or prince kind of thing. Nothing as in depth as Kieran's return.
#46
Posté 06 décembre 2014 - 02:43
The warden Commander in Wardens peak was the heiress of ferelden till she was forced to become a warden and 'give up" her claim t the the throne. She has living descendants today still. They would have a valid claim to the throne if Alistair and my warden do not have children.
#47
Posté 06 décembre 2014 - 02:49
The warden Commander in Wardens peak was the heiress of ferelden till she was forced to become a warden and 'give up" her claim t the the throne. She has living descendants today still. They would have a valid claim to the throne if Alistair and my warden do not have children.
Yep a very ancient branch but still part of the royal dynasty they have the strongest claim.
#48
Posté 06 décembre 2014 - 03:05
It;s not JUST Ferelden's lack of a heir that is weird.
As mentioned, Orlais has no official heir to my knowledge and the World of Thedas actually notes that Neverra is in the same situation. The current king of Neverra has no heir and only has 1 elder brother who himself has no heirs.
So, we have Ferelden with no official heir, Orlais with no oficial heir and Neverra with no heir. Is it just me or is SouthernThedas completely screwed? Ferelden can potentially elect another noble family for the monarchy but Orlais and Neverra? That is pretty much civil war coming as I see it.
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#49
Posté 06 décembre 2014 - 03:08
Perhaps the Blight is like modern pollution and making having babies hard for some folks?
#50
Posté 06 décembre 2014 - 03:31
Nevarra has a rather large royal family though even if the king has no direct children and Ferelden has the Couslands, the only family old, influntional and powerful enough to be a serious threat to the royal family if they chose to as they have done in the past and who the nobility wanted to make king several times in the past.
Orlsais however regardless of possible heirs sort of renders it pointless because they'd likely all try to back stab each other as part of the game while the empire burned.





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