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#51
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I believe you're the troll that was banned from TES on-line and I claim my £5.

 

This sounds like a really funny story.



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I believe you're the troll that was banned from TES on-line and I claim my £5.

No, I have not been banned from the game nor on the official game forums. Furthemore, please refrain from the use of 'troll' word. It is already being misused too much without you adding your own definition of it. Just because someone stands in the opposition to your ideals, it does not make him a 'troll'. That being said, it might have been me considering I use the same name there.

 

I stand by my words (and I don't see anything 'trollish' about them nor me): drastic limitation of non straight romances in the favour of straight ones.



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AnubisOnly

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What limitation? There is only two gay romances, and plenty bi/straight.. This looks kinda ''trollish'' to me too..



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This is never gonna happen but I would like dlc that brings Bethany into your party and you can romance her as either male or female

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What limitation? There is only two gay romances, and plenty bi/straight.. This looks kinda ''trollish'' to me too..

-1 from every non straight romance and straight romances shall gain +3. Sorry, but I'm not responsible for one's misinterpretations of words.



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-1 from every non straight romance and straight romances shall gain +3. Sorry, but I'm not responsible for one's misinterpretations of words.

 

Why would you want them to REMOVE options? Wouldn't it be easier (hypothetically speaking) to just record a couple extra lines accounting for gender difference?



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Another thread? Really?



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Why would you want them to REMOVE options? Wouldn't it be easier (hypothetically speaking) to just record a couple extra lines accounting for gender difference?

It is because I'm in favour of straight romances and extra lines would mean basically non straight-positively pursued by both genders.



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It is because I'm in favour of straight romances and extra lines would mean basically non straight-positively pursued by both genders.

 

Thankfully, it's clear which direction the wind is blowing here.


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I'm not fond of the title. It should say, "What I want."

 

There are people who agree with you, but there are at least as many that don't.

 

And the fact that the majority of gamers are straight males is irrelevant to the issue, because BioWare's job is not to design love interests that satisfy their customers' romantic desires. Their job is to design compelling stories and characters.

 

Which characters you find attractive, or want to romance, has nothing to do with anything. The majority of players are playing the game for the action, the RPG, the story, the characters, the game as a whole.

 

BioWare seeks to be inclusive and representative, which is good. They are not trying to give you, and are incapable of giving you, someone to fall in love or have sex with.


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They are not trying to give you, and are incapable of giving you, someone to fall in love or have sex with.

 

That's not what I'm looking for, and not what I'm saying. You're right though, it is about compelling stories and characters. It seems like it would have been a no-brainer to include more than two of those stories for a straight male Inquisitor, wouldn't you think?

 

At times, Dragon Age strikes me as so similar to Game of Thrones. Both medieval and uproariously popular for their willingness to explore the darker sides of storytelling in a fantasy world.

 

Regardless, the question isn't about the player in the end. The question is about the Inquisitor. Whether there are many options for a straight male Inquisitor doesn't mean a thing if by canon, BioWare decides that for the next game, the Inquisitor was a female anyway (See: The Exile, KOTOR 2). Or if it's just defined by the Keep.

 

This is getting a little off-topic now, but the original point was, if you break it down, a plea for more attention to the romantic options in Dragon Age, and RPGs in general (although again, there's nobody like BioWare in this department).

 

Had they considered this perhaps more of a trademark of the series and given it due attention, I imagine some of the things mentioned in the OP may have been included.



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It is because I'm in favour of straight romances and extra lines would mean basically non straight-positively pursued by both genders.

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-1 from every non straight romance and straight romances shall gain +3. Sorry, but I'm not responsible for one's misinterpretations of words.

Why does it need to be a zero-sum game? Couldn't they keep the non-straight romances they have and just add more straight ones?



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It's possible you're only a bigot, judging from the opinions you defend, but you may, in fact be a troll from the above statement. The "shall" sounded regal, though. Reported.

I've been questioned about the limitations I have in mind about the non straight romances. I don't see anything 'troll' about simple example of solution to the problem I see. You may report me for anything you wish, you may even show off it just like you did, if you wish, but please, refrain from the name calling.



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I can't sign under 'love', but yes I agree that non straight romances should be drastically limited in favour of straight ones.

 

Interesting given that this is actually not what anyone else in the thread has said.  So you are 'agreeing' with who?  The elf voice in your head? 

 

 

2ah5g02.jpgHmmm

 

Ha!

 

To the OP:  I think that they are maxing out the amount of romances that they can actually do without drastically watering down the content.  I'd rather fewer options with better content than less options and Skyrim-level content that is pretty bland.  At least that's my personal opinion.



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2ah5g02.jpgHmmm

It is not official ESO forum but a fan forum as you see. I see no reason for you to post it here except for shaming reasons. I haven't been banned there for trolling anyway.

 

Why does it need to be a zero-sum game? Couldn't they keep the non-straight romances they have and just add more straight ones?

I agree and I accept it as alternative solution. The question is: will BioWare put more resources.



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lol ... OP added tons of extra ladies to the options for guys but no males... *snorts* Typical.



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Interesting given that this is actually not what anyone else in the thread has said.  So you are 'agreeing' with who?  The elf voice in your head? 

 

 

 

Ha!

 

To the OP:  I think that they are maxing out the amount of romances that they can actually do without drastically watering down the content.  I'd rather fewer options with better content than less options and Skyrim-level content that is pretty bland.  At least that's my personal opinion.

Isn't this thread about it, more than less?



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I would like a lesbian romance with a woman who isn't cute, quirky, romantic, "edgy," or girlish. I want a strong, elegant woman in the same vein as Vivienne. Hardened Leliana in DA:O is the closest we've ever came to that and even then she's a little spacey for my tastes.

 

I'd also like to try romancing someone who is of significantly higher social status than ourselves. Being the hero, I always feel a bit like a predator when romancing people in these games.



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Ugh...another one of these topics? You people sure feel entitled for having a dick in your pants and preferring women, huh?

 

I'm out. I said enough back in the other topic that went over this... <_<



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This is getting a little off-topic now, but the original point was, if you break it down, a plea for more attention to the romantic options in Dragon Age, and RPGs in general (although again, there's nobody like BioWare in this department).

 

Had they considered this perhaps more of a trademark of the series and given it due attention, I imagine some of the things mentioned in the OP may have been included.

 

I apologize for lumping you in with the "unfair to women/men/gays/lesbians number of romance options" crowd. It was the section about the percentage of straight males in the OP that threw me.

 

I have actually argued in the past that BioWare should make a series of smaller, indie-style games designed to create a more western RPG version of the JRPG dating simulators, because I believe there is a built in audience for it. Aiming for 10-20 hours of gameplay for each playthrough, and tailoring each miniseries to particular gender/sexuality sets, I believe they could make decent money from it, especially if they conserved by sharing resources among the different games.

 

As far as Dragon Age and their other RPG efforts in the future, though, I would prefer that they reduce the emphasis on the romances. I didn't used to feel that way, but after some time on BSN/TBF, I've come to believe that they are in a no-win situation when it comes to the romance subplots. I think it would be better for them, and the audience, to try and separate the two as much as possible.



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Isn't this thread about it, more than less?

 

No, but funny how you interpreted it that way.  Go back and re-read every word very carefully this time.  You'll see that there is no mention of removing or decreasing the amount of s/s romances.  At least, not until you 'agreed' with the threat by stating it yourself.  In fact, the OP even says not to "go there". 



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This thread will be closed in 3.2..1...



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No, but funny how you interpreted it that way.  Go back and re-read every word very carefully this time.  You'll see that there is no mention of removing or decreasing the amount of s/s romances.  At least, not until you 'agreed' with the threat by stating it yourself.  In fact, the OP even says not to "go there". 

Yes, it looks as if I have made a mistake to a certain degree. I must have kept too many pages open and  unfortunately I have answered to the wrong one(thread). Still, I see no harm in my answer as  it is my protest - in this case, rejection of OP's suggestion. While of course, now I would word it differently, the essence remains the same. Thank you for pointing it out.



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I apologize for lumping you in with the "unfair to women/men/gays/lsebians number of romance options" crowd. It was the section about the percentage of straight males in the OP that threw me.

 

I have actually argued in the past that BioWare should make a series of smaller, indie-style games designed to create a more western RPG version of the JRPG dating simulators, because I believe there is a built in audience for it. Aiming for 10-20 hours of gameplay for each playthrough, and tailoring each miniseries to particular gender/sexuality sets, I believe they could make decent money from it, especially if they conserved by sharing resources among the different games.

 

As far as Dragon Age and their other RPG efforts in the future, though, I would prefer that they reduce the emphasis on the romances. I didn't used to feel that way, but after some time on BSN/TBF, I've come to believe that they are in a no-win situation when it comes to the romance subplots. I think it would be better for them, and the audience, to try and separate the two as much as possible.

 

Meh. I'm one of the ones who love the romance subplots, but I wouldn't buy a dating sim. I want both. That's the whole reason I like Bioware games as much as I do - convergence of gameplay and plot (and say what you will, great romance is a key element of a good adventure).

 

I wouldn't say they're in a no-win situation here. The overwhelming majority of players are accepting or indifferent to the inclusive content. It just makes the small number of people who don't like it holler louder.


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