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[OGSykedSweet]

So I couldnt sign into my old account since I haven't been on these forums since pre origin. As a quick introduction I've loved bioware games for a long time. The first I really vividly remember is KOTOR but idk if the devs on that game are even around anymore. DA:O was amazing as were ME 1 and 2. I dont know about mass effect 3 because the relationship I was in didnt afford me time to play it. So its been awhile since I sat down and got into a bioware game which are usually some of my favorite games. DA: I is just horrible though really, I didn't even go into it with high or low expectations either, I thoought I was in for a pleasant suprise when I picked it up for my ps4. I had already heard of everyones issues with the game before I went into it but they were irrelevant to me. What is an issues for me is just the streamlined boring nature of the game. The starting skill trees feel pasted from DA2. I've already had my game crash and corrupt my save file on ps4 after the updates that supposedly fixed since I got on the 26th or so. Now im on my second try and my Human character's VA has switched from american to english prompting me to again want to restart the snore of content. The sidequests are a huge gripe for me because they are so boring. Look at Cullen from DA:o for example he was a small almost meaningless side quest the player would run into briefly yet he fledged out depth in the world and immersion. Now side qeusts are just can you help, yes? okay go get 10 rocks(Unless they are companion sidequests) The story is rather boring I can't put my finger on why though. Not that the writing is bad or anything its made me laugh and really listen which is more that can be said of most games. I wouldn't say dont buy this game just be cautious. I expect more from you bioware I really do

 

 

Sincerely,

A sad Bioware fan

[b10d1v]

I agree 100%

Your nemesis is approaching godhood, the sky is literally falling, and the farmer wants you to find his cow or goat?    What? I mean there are more pressing issues!

As for breakthrough technology -I'd give one to frostbite just for the water dynamics, superb; where is the advanced AI and AI behaviors -they lose something?

 

Good news most of the bugs are not preferential -equal opportunity frustration, so PS4 can play too!  Faulty counters and mission/quest updates poor hardware scanning -oh, need I go on? The bad news is some quests have bad surprises, over a dozen quests can become open ended by something you do or some game event and it only takes 6 before the game begins to crumble.

 

We should expect more, as Me1-ME3, DAO and DA2 were not released in this condition, so why inquisition?  Where was a QA beta to find so many glaring errors -we paid for the game it's not our job to fix it!

 

If you have ME3 on pc you really should look at some of the DLC mods that change the game ending -some are outstanding.  I don't recommend most other mods even if they are good as modding ME3 is nothing like skyrim, a DLC avoids any piecemeal errors that tend to happen patching game files.

 

Take care and thanks

[Sprenk]

Err . . . if your characters have got more important things to do, like saving the world, why the heck do a ram meat side quest? Just ignore the dang things if you want. In fact, you're supposed to! I had something like 14 unfinished quests at one point in The Hinterlands alone. Hey, Mr. Farmer, I've got more important things to do than escorting your lost druffalo back to its pen. I'm sure you understand.

 

Unlike DA2, which is a very small world, DAI is all about giving you tons and tons of content and tons and tons of choice. Admittedly, this is a nightmare for a completionist or someone with OCD, but for the rest of us, it gives enormous value.

[Devil's Avocado]

For every person who dislikes this game there's five more who enjoy it. It's not going to be every persons cup of tea. You had the unfortunate experience in running into a lot of glitches which is a shame, it likely soured your experience. As for the fetch/kill the thing quests they're just more transparent this time around but every DA game had them in abundance.

[Morthasa]

Some sidequests are indeed just collect twenty bear asses, but most of them are not so tedious. Many collection quests (mosaics, bottles etc.) as far as I have seen up to now get completed as you just explore. Frankly the game improve significantly for me once I got out of the Hinterlands, and even there I enjoyed some of the minor touches (e.g. the annoying mobs which ambushed you continuously and dissappear once you finish certain quests, giving you the feeling that you are actually contributing something).

 

As for bugs, since I started playing in borderless windowed mode (on PC) I have yet to have anything serious happen to me (save for NPCs taking forever to appear in Skyhold, but even then quickloading does the trick).

[Servo to the bitter end]

I would recommend everyone just flat out ignore requisitions. This is 90% of what people are complaining about when they reference "fetch quests" (and yes, I know there are some in the game proper as well). You don't need the power, most are repeatable so they'll never go away, and they're annoying.

[Morthasa]

I would recommend everyone just flat out ignore requisitions. This is 90% of what people are complaining about when they reference "fetch quests" (and yes, I know there are some in the game proper as well). You don't need the power, most are repeatable so they'll never go away, and they're annoying.

 

I suppose you can use them if at some point you feel the need to grind influence (for some reason); oustide of that I 100% agree, don't bother. I must admit I was a bit dissappointed when I realised that I was not actually helping my scouts with new tents, cages etc. but that it was just an endless series of repeatable collect quests *sadface*

[Spitfire]

For every person who dislikes this game there's five more who enjoy it.

 

No offense, but that is just a guess on your part and most certainly not a fact.  In my case it is not that I dislike the game more than I dislike the multitude of very serious bugs and poor design decisions.

[asherbarasher]

Actually me too very disappointed with this game. I am big fan of two previous games and the Dragon Age universe in general.

I really wanted to enjoy this game but i just cannot. Too much glitches,  too much bugs, it feels like i play some early access game on steam. The game was completely ruined for me when i opened tempest for my archer rogue. This thing is too powerful - i play on nightmare with ff on, and it feels like i play on easy. If i take Sera to party it looks like i play with cheats. Too easy, with this this combination there is no challenge at all. Yes, you would suggest not to use it, but i don't think that this is good solution. Too "artificial". And dont forget that i already have not too use lot of things: don't ride mount if you want music, exit only with fast travel or you will broke banter and so on..

And this silence... ohh, i played for 100 hours and 99 of them i heard only footsteps. Last thing i tried just to run mp3 player in background with music from deluxe edition lol...

Really, dragon age games always were something really special for me. But this is not a case with inquisition

[helpthisguyplease]

I will give another playtrough only after they fix the bug with changing voice when you meet Hawke. I am sure in a few weeks the patch will appear that will fix that and other issues.

[Gundar3]

To be fair, the bring home the druffalo quest is the only quest of its kind.  I only did it because I stumbled upon the poor creature and naturally wanted to save it.  Never again in future playthroughs,  

 

As Servo said, requisitions appeared on the surface to be building for something greater, that is entirely inconsequential.  I have the feeling that what we were supposed to get out of it in the end was cut, much like getting strongholds to mean something.  Obtain weapons, build tents, and so forth I thought would be used to upgrade our troops to do better in military battles - battles that aren't just scripted, that you can actually lose...  The battles that don't exist.

 

If you need additional power, just go to the vendor and buy it.

[StingingVelvet]

For every person who dislikes this game there's five more who enjoy it. It's not going to be every persons cup of tea. You had the unfortunate experience in running into a lot of glitches which is a shame, it likely soured your experience. As for the fetch/kill the thing quests they're just more transparent this time around but every DA game had them in abundance.

 

Do you have some kind of firm statistics to back up your rosy analysis? A lot of people dislike a lot about this game.

 

Also, as an amusing point, the vast majority of gamers (let alone humans) will never play it.

[Sylvius the Mad]

It seems that a lot of people who criticise this game start with saying how much they liked the first two.

Well I didn't like the first two. DAO is a brilliant game in many ways, and overall I love it. But DA2 was dreadful in almost as many ways (though it did two things better than DAO).

I think Inquisition is terrific, and it makes me happy that BioWare has reversed course on almost everything that made DA2 bad (though not quite everything). Unfortunately, they also abandoned DA2's limited improvements.

But I still really enjoy Inquisition. This is a great game, and the first of BioWare's voiced protagonist games that doesn't rank behind every silent protagonist game.

Inquisition falls among the genuinely great games. I'm very pleased with it. I'd rank it as being about as good as KotOR.

[Devil's Avocado]

Do you have some kind of firm statistics to back up your rosy analysis? A lot of people dislike a lot about this game.

 

Also, as an amusing point, the vast majority of gamers (let alone humans) will never play it.

 I could also be very wrong and majority of people who played the game hated it or overall disliked it. I see evidence for this as well.despite having no firm statistic, I could ask for this from you as well.  Doesn't hurt to have a optimistic view on something.

 

No statistics but my pure observation of forums and boards from across the internet. Do you honestly think there would be complete and cohesive studies about the responses and behaviors of fans willing to express their opinion on the game right now?   two weeks into the game's release?

Those who are disappointed in something are more likely to express it on a medium where they can remain anonymous. Those who aren't tend to remain silent because they feel no need to comment.

[Tsunami Chef]

No offense, but that is just a guess on your part and most certainly not a fact.  In my case it is not that I dislike the game more than I dislike the multitude of very serious bugs and poor design decisions.

Well it's a lot more apparent when you have other mediums of seeing people's opinion outside of the BSN, where 95% of people hate the game, 4% think it's okay, and 1% actually liked it. It also might be apparent by the humungous amount of reviews that praised the **** out of it...tons of let's players loving the game. In fact the only place where a majority of people don't like it is metacritic and here, the 2 anuses of the internet. Not to mention this forum hasn't had a positive view of a Bioware game since Mass Effect 2, and even then a huge portion of people whined about how it was worse than ME1 in every way. ( when in retrospect, most people agree Mass Effect 2 was by far the best game in the series.)

[Spitfire]

Well it's a lot more apparent when you have other mediums of seeing people's opinion outside of the BSN, where 95% of people hate the game, 4% think it's okay, and 1% actually liked it. It also might be apparent by the humungous amount of reviews that praised the **** out of it...tons of let's players loving the game. In fact the only place where a majority of people don't like it is metacritic and here, the 2 anuses of the internet. Not to mention this forum hasn't had a positive view of a Bioware game since Mass Effect 2, and even then a huge portion of people whined about how it was worse than ME1 in every way. ( when in retrospect, most people agree Mass Effect 2 was by far the best game in the series.)

 

You are willfully confusing criticism with demonizing.

[asherbarasher]

It seems that a lot of people who criticise this game start with saying how much they liked the first two.

Well I didn't like the first two. DAO is a brilliant game in many ways, and overall I love it. But DA2 was dreadful in almost as many ways (though it did two things better than DAO).

I think Inquisition is terrific, and it makes me happy that BioWare has reversed course on almost everything that made DA2 bad (though not quite everything). Unfortunately, they also abandoned DA2's limited improvements.

But I still really enjoy Inquisition. This is a great game, and the first of BioWare's voiced protagonist games that doesn't rank behind every silent protagonist game.

Inquisition falls among the genuinely great games. I'm very pleased with it. I'd rank it as being about as good as KotOR.

Of course they do. If you like the game and really enjoy it, you will except same kind of experience from sequel. So if you are disappointed with sequel why wouldn't you say that first/second part you liked more?

I happy that  you found your way to like this game and i do not try to say that the game is bad. Inquisition has great potential but, at least for me, this potential is neglected by all those endless bugs and overall incompleteness. Also, i would be much more happy if they would put more effort to story line and interesting quests rather than just make game bigger, filled with tons of worthless and boring content (go there, kill those ten guys, bring me 100500 herbs and so on). Don't you agree?

ps.

sorry for english, this is not my native language.

[Tsunami Chef]

You are willfully confusing criticism with demonizing.

When you Criticize something that got as many things right as DA:I did without once giving it a compliment or saying something positive, you are demonizing, or being so selectively critical that it has the exact same effect in the eyes of someone who hasn't played. Either way it's dishonest. Dragon Age Inquisition has obvious flaws, but the way people talk about it on this forum is so vastly different than the way people talk about it elsewhere...it's obvious there is some internal hatred towards Bioware and literally everything they do on this forum. It oozes out of every post where people are just waiting to talk about how Bioware has crossed the last straw, and DA:I is the last offense that will make them never buy another bioware game again. It's quite franky, hilarious.

[Tetigistus]

It seems that a lot of people who criticise this game start with saying how much they liked the first two.

Well I didn't like the first two. DAO is a brilliant game in many ways, and overall I love it. But DA2 was dreadful in almost as many ways (though it did two things better than DAO).

I think Inquisition is terrific, and it makes me happy that BioWare has reversed course on almost everything that made DA2 bad (though not quite everything). Unfortunately, they also abandoned DA2's limited improvements.

But I still really enjoy Inquisition. This is a great game, and the first of BioWare's voiced protagonist games that doesn't rank behind every silent protagonist game.

Inquisition falls among the genuinely great games. I'm very pleased with it. I'd rank it as being about as good as KotOR.

 

I agree with this.  People suddenly have selected memories when it comes to DAII.  People were shocked and angry when it came out and they realized they got an unfinished game.  DA:I is visually stunning and the narrative is much better than DAII.  Unfortunately, its buggy as hell.  It's fine to say that without holding up DAII like some paragon of RPG-dom.  Which it definitely is not.

[cotheer]

 

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I'm very pleased with it. I'd rank it as being about as good as KotOR.

Blasphemy

[Darkly Tranquil]

I agree with this.  People suddenly have selected memories when it comes to DAII.  People were shocked and angry when it came out and they realized they got an unfinished game.  DA:I is visually stunning and the narrative is much better than DAII.  Unfortunately, its buggy as hell.  It's fine to say that without holding up DAII like some paragon of RPG-dom.  Which it definitely is not.

For all it's faults with narrative and repetitive locations, DA2's combat (aside from the waves) was probably the best of any game in the series. DAI's combat is a huge step back from DA2. I like DA2 over DAI purely on that basis; I had fun with the combat in DA2, DAI's combat is nothing but a chore.

[Sylvius the Mad]

Blasphemy

I rank both this and KotOR above BG2.

But BG and NWN remain BioWare's best games, in my estimation.

[Spitfire]

When you Criticize something that got as many things right as DA:I did without once giving it a compliment or saying something positive, you are demonizing, or being so selectively critical that it has the exact same effect in the eyes of someone who hasn't played.

 

You can't possibly be saying that you have read every single thing that I have ever posted about DA:I? You are making wild and unfair declarations that are simply untrue and making those who disagree with you appear unfair or even irrational if they bring up ANYTHING negative about the game.  The context of posting anything this soon after a major release is generally related to issues that myself and (many) others would like to have fixed in a patch. We are not calling on the devs to be crucified or burned at the stake.

 

Isn't there room in 'The feedback and Suggestions' hub for - you know, feedback and suggestions?

[Sylvius the Mad]

For all it's faults with narrative and repetitive locations, DA2's combat (aside from the waves) was probably the best of any game in the series. DAI's combat is a huge step back from DA2. I like DA2 over DAI purely on that basis; I had fun with the combat in DA2, DAI's combat is nothing but a chore.

While my dislike of DA2 had a lot to do with the combat. I really liked DAO's combat. Inquisition's isn't nearly that good, but it's tolerable.

DA2's combat wasn't tolerable. I couldn't even make it through Act 1 in my final attempt to play the game.

[Darkly Tranquil]

While my dislike of DA2 had a lot to do with the combat. I really liked DAO's combat. Inquisition's isn't nearly that good, but it's tolerable.
DA2's combat wasn't tolerable. I couldn't even make it through Act 1 in my final attempt to play the game.

I'm very fond of Origins combat too, but the most fun I have ever had in Dragon Age combat was a dagger rogue in DA2 with all the mobility based spells. I bounced around the battle field like a demented rubber ball, teleporting from place to place to Backstab, or
Rush the enemy, or Back to Back with allies. It was great fun. DAI combat has neither the tactical aspect of Origins, or the arcade excitement of DA2, it's just a mash up of the worst of both worlds.