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I just wonder what happens to synthetics in Synthesis ending,the ending is vague.


Do organics turned synthetics(Husks) regain their conscious and memories?

Do synthetics(especially Husks) will require food like organics?

What happens to The Crucible/Catalyst?,presumably it can act on it's own now with Synthesis ending,won't it try to control both organics and synthetics this time,or some crazy person will attempt it?

Reapers are still the apex of technology,Synthesis won't stop individual Reapers that want to destroy/control using their technological supremacy.

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As I understand it, humans and any other live thing receives upgrades: supercomputer brain, enhanced eyes, and organic-synthetic DNA. Machines receive feelings, emotions, and living circuits. Which probably explains why EDI almost cries in the Synthesis ending.

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Everything is unified into a new genetic code. 


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I still wonder what happens to the husks though. Do they regain their former personality (how cruel would that be)? If so, what about Brutes (do they go krogan or turian)? Or pretorians (split personalities)? Or do they stay under reaper control as mindless creatures? If so, what will the reapers do with them? Give them back to the families of the victims ("there ya go, just borrowed that guy, no harm done, right")? Do they kill them all off eventually?
It drives me crazy with these EC epilogue slides, they evade all the interesting questions about the endings.

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I still wonder what happens to the husks though. Do they regain their former personality (how cruel would that be)? If so, what about Brutes (do they go krogan or turian)? Or pretorians (split personalities)? Or do they stay under reaper control as mindless creatures? If so, what will the reapers do with them? Give them back to the families of the victims ("there ya go, just borrowed that guy, no harm done, right")? Do they kill them all off eventually?
It drives me crazy with these epilogue slides, they evade all the interesting questions about the endings.

I seem to remember something in ME1 saying durring the end of the previous cycle the Reapers left the husks to starve to death.



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I still wonder what happens to the husks though. Do they regain their former personality (how cruel would that be)? If so, what about Brutes (do they go krogan or turian)? Or pretorians (split personalities)? Or do they stay under reaper control as mindless creatures? If so, what will the reapers do with them? Give them back to the families of the victims ("there ya go, just borrowed that guy, no harm done, right")? Do they kill them all off eventually?
It drives me crazy with these epilogue slides, they evade all the interesting questions about the endings.

Or Reapers themselves as the uploaded minds of millions of processed individuals, which are themselves controlled by the Catalyst.

 

But I guess this falls under "lots of speculation for everyone"



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I seem to remember something in ME1 saying durring the end of the previous cycle the Reapers left the husks to starve to death.

Sure, but this is about synthesis, where the husks will have to "live" amongst everyone else ... or die I guess. Also, in that scene when the husks stop attacking the two soldiers after the green wave hits them, they definitely seem to change. Whether that is because the reapers which control them change or because they themselves change, I don't know. But it is an interesting dilemma either way.

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But human husks come off as zombies and as sentient if they eat it seems like it would be canabalistic or something. I am not sure what the food would be. Ham maybe? Or whole pigs?



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IMO Synthesis should not have been in the game at all. There was no foundation for it and execution is the most clear example of space magic I've ever seen. Control and Destroy can be explained within the universe with some stretch but Synthesis? No. 



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Organics are upgraded with synthetic technology to the level that they cannot be really called organic anymore. However, this is a specific path of synthetic evolution, not one that could have come from the futures of Destroy or Control.

They are 'improved'.

 

Synthetics are upgraded further, with the code that is so advanced that it perfectly or nearly perfectly replicates the environment of organic intelligence, without overwhelming/overwriting it.

They 'understand'.

 

All of this is done, however, via a Reaper route. It is not done through the Council's ingenuity, or the Geth's efforts, but through the Reapers, completely incorporating everyone and every Reaper into a larger galactic network.

 

Because of the organic element used, and with Shepard as the agent of it (his 'code' being the template that is used for everything), this keeps everyone from only being a giant Reaper-galaxy that lacks the positive qualities of the Savior (of the Citadel, cough).

 

Husks are not recognized as their former selves, but as their own entities, either 'individual' people, or utterly connected to the network, it is hard to say. One of the biggest problems people have with Synthesis is the idea that husks just keep walking around being all ugly and a disturbing, but I have two points about that:

1)We don't know what becomes of everyone later on. Hints by 'Synthesis EDI' seem to indicate that they may be starting as the entities we saw in the EC slides, but may be on the way to becoming something else entirely, and this may include changing visuals, or abandoning them, or whatever.

2)Even if the husks stay, they shouldn't be known as husks anymore, but a far extent of AI personality. And 'humans' will not regard them with fear either. Literally everything has changed, and the hatred from organics to synthetics and the misunderstanding of synthetics to organics will end, even on the basic levels of 'disgust' and 'self-defense'. The soldier stops his gun. The husk stops running. The ships stop firing. All it took was for everyone to join the new version of Reaper existence... How you 'look' would be just about the least important thing as the 'spirit' you convey overrides it all. And they all carry the 'spirit' of Shepard.

 

 

Personally, I didn't pick Synthesis (I did my first time before EC, but not after that), for several reasons. One of them being that I just find it too disturbing. There was a line, and Synthesis crossed it. But I don't think it is some universally negative thing that very pro-Destroyers and pro-ITers and anti-endingers (? lol) regard it as. It is different. It is alien. It is selfish. But it is also selfless. It is Man being called upon to do something far beyond his station, to make a moral choice on what he'd view as a solution for the galaxy.

 

But maybe it helps that I actually view it all a (sort of) 'dream', and that it didn't happen anywhere except in a Reaper itself. Ha. And not in a bad way!, but instead as part of a whole new story to come. So when I see Destroy, I see a glimpse of what will be. And when I see Control, I see a vision of what may be. And when I see Synthesis, I go 'lol yeah that's totally fake space magic, but its at least a wish for what might be, in some way, at some point, inevitably'.

Destroy being the most realistic but not optimistic or idealistic. Control being the most optimistic but not idealistic or realistic. Synthesis being the most idealistic but not optimistic or realistic.

(Ideals being that synthetics and organics can integrate to such a level. Optimistic being that organics and Shepard could really have a hold over so many Reapers.)

 

Meanwhile its all an illusion, at least to an extent, and Shepard, as a human and/or 'organic code' was simply not capable of understanding the situation he was in, and the magnitude of the Reapers' presence. Heck, he's still calling them REAPERS, when they're really just superultramegacomputersofdooooom. Reaper was a Prothian name, and it stuck during this cycle.


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I just wonder what happens to synthetics in Synthesis ending,the ending is vague.


Do organics turned synthetics(Husks) regain their conscious and memories?

Do synthetics(especially Husks) will require food like organics?

What happens to The Crucible/Catalyst?,presumably it can act on it's own now with Synthesis ending,won't it try to control both organics and synthetics this time,or some crazy person will attempt it?

Reapers are still the apex of technology,Synthesis won't stop individual Reapers that want to destroy/control using their technological supremacy.

Synthetics gain organic "understanding." Essentially they gain knowledge beyond their programming and have the full perspective and conscious of an organic. No, they are not organic nor do they need food. They are still machines, just very intelligent ones.

 

Husk are tools. They have no will of their own.

 

As with the other decisions, I do not believe the Catalyst exists anymore. It was destroyed in Destroy, replaced in Control, and loses purpose in Synthesis.

 

Yes, Synthesis is absolute nonsense and is easily the worst ending in ME3.



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It gives every living thing in the galaxy new DNA -- including Synthetics!?! What that actually means is relatively unknown except that it will result in something positive, solves the organic vs synthetic thing by removing the difference between the two, and stops the cycles. The EC added the specifics that organics will be able to fully integrate with 'synthetic technology' and synthetics gain 'understanding'. What those mean in any practical sense is unknown, especially since 'understanding' could really mean anything.

 

Ultimately, I view Synthesis as the option that measures how well you value the opinion of the Catalyst. The repercussions are too unknown otherwise to make a rational decision about it. It really is a leap of faith and maybe that's the point.

 

As for the Catalyst and the Reapers after the boom. I suspect the Catalyst is still around and is affected by the blast. Whether it still follows it's code is unknown which may or may not be relevant as green beings might still be able to build normal synthetics and normal organics might continue to evolve from primordial ooze. As for the Reapers it's not known if they are actually sentient creatures that are mind controlled by the Catalyst or if they're more like programmed battle ships that the Catalyst controls more directly. Same with the husks (although the Synthesis ending makes it look like a husk has some sort of emotional state).

 

At the end of the day there aren't a lot of answers. The tone of the epilogue and it's position as the ending with the highest EMS requirement to unlock suggests that its a good thing -- and that's all you really get.



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Synthetics gain organic "understanding." Essentially they gain knowledge beyond their programming and have the full perspective and conscious of an organic. No, they are not organic nor do they need food. They are still machines, just very intelligent ones.

 

Husk are tools. They have no will of their own.

 

As with the other decisions, I do not believe the Catalyst exists anymore. It was destroyed in Destroy, replaced in Control, and loses purpose in Synthesis.

 

Yes, Synthesis is absolute nonsense and is easily the worst ending in ME3.

 

Synthesis is a posthuman sort of vision. That everything is so advanced in its synthetic-ness that it no longer is synthetic, but something more - especially when it can incorporate the familiar into itself enough that it isn't completely 'out there'. Thus the stuff like Kasumi's Synthesis slide in EC.

 

Its imo a very non-Shepard decision except when you play things down much more relatively specific lines in ME2 and especially ME3. Shepard can be RPed to be open enough to alternate ideas, while not being totally accepting of them, and he can be RPed to be dedicated enough to the 'best' path for all, while not so hate filled about the Reapers that he's always talking about destroying them as the default. But damn, its a fine line, and not presented as well as I'd have wanted.

 

I think any Synthesis synthetic could eat food, if it decided to. And it could just simulate the taste, if it wanted to. Or it couldn't, but the tech to be able to do so would quickly arrive.

 

Husks probably DO have wills of their own, even if still as alien to us as anything else in Synthesis. I got no impression that they were totally hiveminded. But the will they have will likely not be something clearly 'human'. Just reminiscent of it. Again, posthuman.

 

No clue about Catalyst except that even if it exists, it has a greatly diminished purpose and may be just as much synthesis as everything else in synthesis. They all understand each other lalalalalalalalala happyhappy.

 

As I was meaning though, yep synthesis is absolute nonsense but that just fuels my thinking that its all a Reaper simulated universe dream anyway ^_^. God, please let it just be a Matrix with its own effed up rules. Please.


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They gain the ability to poop.


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It gives every living thing in the galaxy new DNA -- including Synthetics!?! What that actually means is relatively unknown except that it will result in something positive, solves the organic vs synthetic thing by removing the difference between the two, and stops the cycles. The EC added the specifics that organics will be able to fully integrate with 'synthetic technology' and synthetics gain 'understanding'. What those mean in any practical sense is unknown, especially since 'understanding' could really mean anything.

 

Ultimately, I view Synthesis as the option that measures how well you value the opinion of the Catalyst. The repercussions are too unknown otherwise to make a rational decision about it. It really is a leap of faith and maybe that's the point.

 

As for the Catalyst and the Reapers after the boom. I suspect the Catalyst is still around and is affected by the blast. Whether it still follows it's code is unknown which may or may not be relevant as green beings might still be able to build normal synthetics and normal organics might continue to evolve from primordial ooze. As for the Reapers it's not known if they are actually sentient creatures that are mind controlled by the Catalyst or if they're more like programmed battle ships that the Catalyst controls more directly. Same with the husks (although the Synthesis ending makes it look like a husk has some sort of emotional state).

 

At the end of the day there aren't a lot of answers. The tone of the epilogue and it's position as the ending with the highest EMS requirement to unlock suggests that its a good thing -- and that's all you really get.

 

Mass Effect seems to propose the idea that DNA can be simulated. That it can be put into something, say a computer, and if perfectly or near perfectly replicated, it could behave exactly like our DNA. Or 'organic code' (aka DNA). (Shepard's DNA is superior)

 

But it also (its lovey dovey 'all the feels' side) goes that we are defined by our actions. That makes up our mind, our memories, and more. That is our 'DNA' (notice the '' around it).

 

So what Synthesis does is:

1)Give synthetics a code upgrade to facilitate something like 'DNA', to such a level that it is convincing and not just seen as simulation of life

2)Give organics a synthetic upgrade to a high level that would have taken much longer for them to be ready for otherwise

3)Shepard disseminates his own 'code' (that being DNA + memories + mind + whatever) through this new network to everyone, every node, every..whatever. They don't just remember him (Destroy), or 'remember' him (Control), they REMEMBER HIM, as he literally is part of how they all work. The whole upgrade consists of the Shepard code flavor. Otherwise, it may have been more soul-less Reaper personality, at least closer to Collectors than what we see in EC.

 

But instead of Collectors 'X, replaced by tech', Synthesis goes 'X, replaced by tech and humanity'. That it remains a constant in how the galaxy works, instead of like a giant drone world. Because what is humanity, if not something that operates around the concept of free will?

 

 

The ending EMS is debatable, and so BSN has debated it a ton. There's the Breach scene in Destroy, then there's Synthesis. I guess a compromise could be reached that Synthesis is the best overall ending, while Destroy is the best personal ending, and Control is the best galactic ending, at least in their most Max EMS versions. If only because Destroy lets the person Shepard live on, Control lets the galaxy live on, and Synthesis changes/kills/rebirths everyone for the sake of something better to live on.

 

I still think its a ruse and all in a Reaper, but hey, Shepard's hope is important, dammit! Let it inspire the sequel!



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Destroy's intent is clearly "best personal" and I would never feign debate against the fact that most fans tend to agree that it is, but the breath scene just leaves me far, far colder than EDI hugging the LI at the end of Synthesis. I also prefer Shepard's Control form watching over everyone to it. Just... stylistically, all-the-feels-ically, I'll never he satisfied with "le gasp." I almost wish I was -- my third run was expressly a Destroy one. I watched it, sighed, and immediately rebooted and picked something else for fiery Elhaym Shepard. I have the same problem many other fans with anything that isn't Destroy. :P

Sorry, I don't step into endings threads more than once a season, I get thoughts pent-up like that and they need releasin'.

What happens to husks is kind of my one big "what have I done...?" thought as a Synthesizer otherwise. It's all silly, but it's my silly, and EDI is happy, and rebuilding will be easy, and I subscribe to the belief that the Catalyst and its Reaper imperative dissolve no matter the selection anyway, and hey, the green freaky eyes will just be a fad and can be removed when everyone wakes up from the Galactic Green Party of 2187, and... but... oh goddess the husks oh goddess oh goddess what literally what you poor abominations fffffff.

...so I like this idea of them being en route to something else. I will uh. Incorporate it.

Synthesize with it.

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Destroy's intent is clearly "best personal" and I would never feign debate against the fact that most fans tend to agree that it is, but the breath scene just leaves me far, far colder than EDI hugging the LI at the end of Synthesis. I also prefer Shepard's Control form watching over everyone to it. Just... stylistically, all-the-feels-ically, I'll never he satisfied with "le gasp." I almost wish I was -- my third run was expressly a Destroy one. I watched it, sighed, and immediately rebooted and picked something else for fiery Elhaym Shepard. I have the same problem many other fans with anything that isn't Destroy. :P

Sorry, I don't step into endings threads more than once a season, I get thoughts pent-up like that and they need releasin'.

What happens to husks is kind of my one big "what have I done...?" thought as a Synthesizer otherwise. It's all silly, but it's my silly, and EDI is happy, and rebuilding will be easy, and I subscribe to the belief that the Catalyst and its Reaper imperative dissolve no matter the selection anyway, and hey, the green freaky eyes will just be a fad and can be removed when everyone wakes up from the Galactic Green Party of 2187, and... but... oh goddess the husks oh goddess oh goddess what literally what you poor abominations fffffff.

...so I like this idea of them being en route to something else. I will uh. Incorporate it.

Synthesize with it.

 

For Breath Destroy, the feeling I get is 'resolute'. Most Shepards, to some significant degree, did go in there with the intent to destroy the Reapers, and spoke to allies/friends that they'll be returning. Destroy does that in the most definite way. I don't go along with those debates of "was that his last breath?". -_-

 

Screw the Reapers, screw the solution, this is our solution, and "this time the organics are taking control". This line works okay enough with non-Destroy endings, but like most of the game/series, I get more of a sense that in the more concrete perspectives, it speaks about Destroy.

 

Then subjectively it can be about Control.

 

Then abstractly it can be about Synthesis.

 

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I don't worry about the husks tbh. Everyone is a husk now. Just the definition has changed, and the name 'husk' just wouldn't apply. But they're all techno beings. They can be anything now. What will tether them to organic and human existence will be the Shepard code, but otherwise it'll go friggin everywhere.

 

"We stand upon the precipice of change. The world fears the inevitable plummet into the abyss. Watch for that moment... and when it comes, do not hesitate to leap. It is only when you fall that you learn whether you can fly."

 

Dragon Age, but still :).

 

I would still say that ME1-3 is more inclined on the 'Destroy your Enemy' side of things, portraying the enemy most of the time as something either not at all, or barely sympathetic (even the ghost boy spoke with a bratty voice, especially on Low EMS), but I do think that we have enough indications through especially ME3 and DAI, that Bioware games will not always stick to this more core narrative tone. That they'll be exploring more. And I'd like to see how this is expressed in future Mass Effect games.



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The ending EMS is debatable, and so BSN has debated it a ton. There's the Breach scene in Destroy, then there's Synthesis. I guess a compromise could be reached that Synthesis is the best overall ending, while Destroy is the best personal ending, and Control is the best galactic ending, at least in their most Max EMS versions. If only because Destroy lets the person Shepard live on, Control lets the galaxy live on, and Synthesis changes/kills/rebirths everyone for the sake of something better to live on.

 

I still think its a ruse and all in a Reaper, but hey, Shepard's hope is important, dammit! Let it inspire the sequel!

I really can't see this argument.

 

Synthesis is idealistic and impractical with the "final solution" not actually indicating peace will be permanent through forced evolution. On the contrary, history has shown that forced peace will actually lead to more chaos and instability in the long-term. We all see how the Catalyst's idea of forced peace through harvesting and preservation worked out.

 

Control merely puts the galaxy at the will of Shepard instead of the Catalyst. That could be a good thing, but it could be worse depending on what kind of impact that control has over Shepard. We saw what the idea of control did to TIM, and I'm talking before he was indoctrinated. Absolute power corrupts absolutely, and even Shepard is not immune to its effects.

 

I really believe many miss the point of Destroy. It's not the "perfect ending" because Shepard lives. That's irrelevant. On the contrary, nobody even knew Shepard would live and it was likely he would die. What makes Destroy preferred is because it definitively puts an end to the reaper conflict. None of the other endings do this, leaving looming questions without answers. That's why Destroy is the optimal choice as it does not lead anything to chance.



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If you want everything to go back to the way it was then choose the Control ending. Nothing will be evolved or destroyed; however your Shepard will turn into a Reaper. If you want to meet everyone halfway, all while upgrading everyone then choose Synthesis. If you hate synthesis then you can take out the Reapers, the Geth, EDI, and any other synthetics; however if you do not have a EMS that is over 3200 then it will destroy a lot in the process. If you hate everything then you can choose the Refusal ending and let the Reapers assimilate everyone then go back into dark space.

 

I prefer the Synthesis ending. Synthesis is the most difficult ending to unlock: it requires 2800 EMS just to unlock it and get the basic outcome. For the best Synthesis ending you need a lot more points. And the Relays can be saved, everyone can be happy, and the war can end.



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I really can't see this argument.

 

Synthesis is idealistic and impractical with the "final solution" not actually indicating peace will be permanent through forced evolution. On the contrary, history has shown that forced peace will actually lead to more chaos and instability in the long-term. We all see how the Catalyst's idea of forced peace through harvesting and preservation worked out.

 

Control merely puts the galaxy at the will of Shepard instead of the Catalyst. That could be a good thing, but it could be worse depending on what kind of impact that control has over Shepard. We saw what the idea of control did to TIM, and I'm talking before he was indoctrinated. Absolute power corrupts absolutely, and even Shepard is not immune to its effects.

 

I really believe many miss the point of Destroy. It's not the "perfect ending" because Shepard lives. That's irrelevant. On the contrary, nobody even knew Shepard would live and it was likely he would die. What makes Destroy preferred is because it definitively puts an end to the reaper conflict. None of the other endings do this, leaving looming questions without answers. That's why Destroy is the optimal choice as it does not lead anything to chance.

 

Actually, I completely agree :)

 

I just think there's more ways to look at it, and that this was intentional.

 

Destroy does definitely end the Reaper conflict, but the words used that are applicable to the other endings is 'put an end to the Reaper threat'. Whatever happens in Synthesis, 'Reaper' isn't really a thing anymore. Whatever happens in Control, isn't so much a 'Reaper' thing but an 'AI' thing. In neither ending would I think that people would regularly call those things 'Reapers'. It is an intentionally limiting way of 'giving voice to destruction'. It's a title. Its saved for those struggling against the Reapers.

 

At least that's how I see it, from another point of view.

 

~~~

 

Actually, I do somewhat disagree about the Synthesis forced part. It may have been forced on the galaxy, okay, but I think the point was that it wasn't forced on Shepard, and Shepard enacts it, and Shepard is in and remembered by everyone, so they all understand him, and what he did Synthesis for. So eh... I dunno about the galaxy falling apart because of Synthesis itself. The aftereffects of it? Maybe, yeah. In huge ways, maybe. But the peace itself may last for a LONG time, for all we know.

 

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EDIT: also I guess I do disagree about Shepard living in Destroy. It may not matter to many, but its also of SUPREME importance to others. You and I can't dictate that. Some players want Shepard to go die and rest in piece, some want him to live on 'forever', some want him to literally biologically live as long as possible. A player's connection to Shepard does matter, and may determine the 'best'.

Personally, while I was attached to Shepard, and it mattered, he wasn't EVERYTHING. I could have chosen something else if I was so inclined (as I did the first time with Synthesis), but the idea of what remains as 'Shepard' did weigh on me.



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 The Catalyst says that organics will be able to integrate with technology, and that synthetics "in turn" will gain understanding.

 

What that indicates, given what the term "in turn" means, is that the connection between organics and technology (synthetics) is what facilitates their improved understanding of organics. The key is that medium which is created. Synthetics have the innate ability to exchange information through cyberspace. Organics acquire this ability post-synthesis IMO, allowing them to better communicate with synthetics, and for synthetics to better learn.

 

 

Inevitably, questions arise as to why this is preferable to the way organics have been communicating with synthetics already (by simply... talking). Well, if you do not like the idea of doing it differently, then clearly it is not preferable for you. Synthetics, however, see audio-exchange as inefficient, it is easier for them to learn when exchanging data through networking. Also, synthetics like the geth have tended to preemptively attack organics attempting to make contact with them, so maintaining safe distance when communicating would probably be a perk, for both parties. In the end, nothing is stopping you from choosing Destroy or Control and continue doing it the "organic way" as we are comfortable with. Only question I would have is, why put our preference over theirs?


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Both sides become a genetic hybrid but maintain their individual features.

 

There's no reason to assume husks have regained who they were, that person was killed and can't be resurrected, BUT Kasumi's end slide indicates that in certain circumstances machines who weren't even sentient to begin with can gain consciousness. (Are we more than just the sum of our thoughts?) 

 

EDI's first line is "I am alive" and her last is "I am alive and i am not alone" it's safe to assume that Synthetics have also been changed but in the opposite way that organics were the Husks in the end game cinematic appear to have become aaware of their surroundings and released from the control of the reapers. EDI goes on to imply that everything is now interconnected and that shared knowledge is now available to all. 

 

So reaper forces would not be who they were or even what they became. I think references were made to husks eating people as well on Tuchanka

 

"Or pulled out and eaten by husks" 

 

And Vigil says that Prothean husks starved to death when the reapers abandoned them, so it's safe to assume they need to eat. 



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I still wonder what happens to the husks though. Do they regain their former personality (how cruel would that be)? If so, what about Brutes (do they go krogan or turian)? Or pretorians (split personalities)? Or do they stay under reaper control as mindless creatures? If so, what will the reapers do with them? Give them back to the families of the victims ("there ya go, just borrowed that guy, no harm done, right")? Do they kill them all off eventually?
It drives me crazy with these EC epilogue slides, they evade all the interesting questions about the endings.

 

Maybe the reapers just 'change them back'? It's a bit corny, I know, but this is sci-fi, so it could happen. Or maybe they just die as the reapers don't bother to control them (as they are not needed, anymore).



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 The Catalyst says that organics will be able to integrate with technology, and that synthetics "in turn" will gain understanding.

 

What that indicates, given what the term "in turn" means, is that the connection between organics and technology (synthetics) is what facilitates their improved understanding of organics. The key is that medium which is created. Synthetics have the innate ability to exchange information through cyberspace. Organics acquire this ability post-synthesis IMO, allowing them to better communicate with synthetics, and for synthetics to better learn.

 

 

Inevitably, questions arise as to why this is preferable to the way organics have been communicating with synthetics already (by simply... talking). Well, if you do not like the idea of doing it differently, then clearly it is not preferable for you. Synthetics, however, see audio-exchange as inefficient, it is easier for them to learn when exchanging data through networking. Also, synthetics like the geth have tended to preemptively attack organics attempting to make contact with them, so maintaining safe distance when communicating would probably be a perk, for both parties. In the end, nothing is stopping you from choosing Destroy or Control and continue doing it the "organic way" as we are comfortable with. Only question I would have is, why put our preference over theirs?

 

Actually I think the question is "Why should we be forced to change to meet someone else's ideal of perfection"



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Actually I think the question is "Why should we be forced to change to meet someone else's ideal of perfection"

Another could be what is so wrong with a compromise? in the end it comes to our humanity and one key feature of being human is no two humans are exactly alike, especialy mentaly.


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