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The Viper MKII (or how to -actually- alchemist)


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#1
tbxvividos

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Loadout:

Twin fangs
flank attack
toxic mist
Flask of fire

Passives: the ones that make you do more damage and the ones that have to do with poison
(I'm on a phone, shoot me)

Strategy:

After the pull is initiated by someone who isn't you, flank attack something FROM THE FRONT so that you are actually behind them when you stealth.

Go find the archer or whatever mob that is furthest away from the group - twin fangs to one shot them.

Cast flask of fire.

Run to your group, spamming toxic mist the whole way so that you fill the area, and all the mobs, with poison.

By the time you get back to your group, flank attack should be up again.

Use it, restealth, open on something again.

Pop a poison potion for autoattack lulz, or grab popcorn and watch everything die to green goodness.

Wut

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Scorpio989

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"Run to your group, spamming toxic"

 

All I could think of was how fast I would die if I did this... However this does sound rather fun.



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tbxvividos

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"Run to your group, spamming toxic"

All I could think of was how fast I would die if I did this... However this does sound rather fun.


Won't die if you have a decent leg tanking.
or a necro.
Or an aw.
or an ele.

You just don't want aggro, heh.

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Does toxic mist stack with itself in the same area?



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Chuggernaut

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I tried this last night you can only have one cloud up at a time. I know just sucks :(

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This build is great for routine, not much else.



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ElectricFeel

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This build is great for routine, not much else.



Agreed, how can you play a rogue class with no stealth? In any difficulty above routine you are going to need aggro to be fully established before you can even start to move into position, doing what a alchemist or assassin should be doing (taking out archers and other ranged mobs that can be problematic) is going to be impossible. The best you can hope for here is to play defensively quickly killing groups after they have been rounded up, but to be honest if there is any other AOE class in the group they are going to do it better because they won't need to close the gap. Nothing wrong with your build but in my experience you are going to need barrier support and a good tank to be really effective like that.

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tbxvividos

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Agreed, how can you play a rogue class with no stealth? In any difficulty above routine you are going to need aggro to be fully established before you can even start to move into position, doing what a alchemist or assassin should be doing (taking out archers and other ranged mobs that can be problematic) is going to be impossible. The best you can hope for here is to play defensively quickly killing groups after they have been rounded up, but to be honest if there is any other AOE class in the group they are going to do it better because they won't need to close the gap. Nothing wrong with your build but in my experience you are going to need barrier support and a good tank to be really effective like that.

Flank attack stealths.

Your mind = blown amirite?

Also, alch doesn't exactly have any amazing builds. It's pretty much either poison aoe with TF for single targets, or Christmas lights in a multi Hunter/alch group. People like to cry about the cool down but in my experience having 2-3 people make a minefield that can clear an entire room by los pulling is pretty amusing.


And @penguin - as opposed to your build that sits in stealth all day without attacking?


And @chugger - are you 100% sure that it's not just a case of 1 graphic at a time? Last time I played alch I could drop multiple and damage enemies over a large area. But, as most my classes are, my alch is lvl 1 at the moment due to promotion farming.

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Post a video on Perilous using this. I dare you to actually give any of your non nonsensical gibberish any credibility.



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There are no good Alchemist builds.



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tbxvividos

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Post a video on Perilous using this. I dare you to actually give any of your non nonsensical gibberish any credibility.


Says the guy who posts videos of threatening

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Says the guy who posts videos of threatening

 

I just realized that we do not have a thunderdome equivalent yet. This is a serious design oversight, biower pls fix.


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-PenguinFetish-

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Says the guy who posts videos of threatening

 

I make clip videos. Threatening enables me to not focus on gear or a team to be successful. Clips are also much shorter, meaning they take less time to edit, render and upload. 

 

Anybody who plays with me will tell you that every single build I have posted has passed Perilous. You however, have not posted anything. You keep spewing gibberish about you being so good at this game, but i am yet to see any proof of this. You have zero credibility here. And you have once again proved me right by not posting a video, but instead diverting the conversation to be about me. Not to mention you are wrong about almost every mechanic you talk about.

 

Every post you make is just you talking out of your a**. You pick fights with everyone here and you are proven wrong every single time. If youre going to attempt to troll people, at least be half good at it. 



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tbxvividos

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Hold on let me go make a video spamming flank attack and getting carried by my team so I can be l33t too.

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HowYouSoGudd

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I wonder how this build would go. I would test it out but cbf lvling alch to 20 and then getting enough lvls to try it again.

 

Skills.

Upgraded skittles

Flask of Fire

Flask of Frost

Poison Weapons

 

Technique.

Cast poison weapons then flask of fire, spam skittles, then cast upgraded flask of frost and watch them try to make it to you through the minefield of skittles.



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ElectricFeel

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Flank attack stealths.
Your mind = blown amirite?
Also, alch doesn't exactly have any amazing builds. It's pretty much either poison aoe with TF for single targets, or Christmas lights in a multi Hunter/alch group. People like to cry about the cool down but in my experience having 2-3 people make a minefield that can clear an entire room by los pulling is pretty amusing.
And @penguin - as opposed to your build that sits in stealth all day without attacking?
And @chugger - are you 100% sure that it's not just a case of 1 graphic at a time? Last time I played alch I could drop multiple and damage enemies over a large area. But, as most my classes are, my alch is lvl 1 at the moment due to promotion farming.


It cloaks but it has a range to use it where you will have agrroed everything in the area as you are charging in before you can use it, and if some of those mobs are archers they won't care that you are now in stealth and shoot you anyways. Promoted my second alchemist today, Flank attack is a good skill, you will be a better Alchemist if you stealth move behind the mobs before aggro is pulled, pop flask of fire as the tank engages then twin viper strike the ranged mobs until it goes on cool down then finish off whatever is still alive on the tank or has made its way to the back lines.