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[Spartakos317]

I feel like RPG's today are completely arbitrarily going for Mature ratings without needing to. The gore in this game is not realistic, no body parts are actually cut off, and the language has gone by largely unnoticed. The sole reason this game gets a M rating, is because of the computerized skin.... which adds nothing to the storytelling experience... so why not include an option to completely preclude a younger player from seeing the gore and the skin?

 

If I wanted to, I could dust off my copies of KOTOR, Neverwinter Nights, and other RPG's and let my kids experience the fun of the combat, storytelling etc without having to worry about much.

 

As a future parent, I lament that I will have to consign my kids to RPG games made before they were born, until they are late in high school or preparing for college.

 

Its especially frustrating in light of the new multiplayer components to games like ME3 and DAI.

 

Not to mention, romance in games is such a contrite and silly thing. There has not been one game, one dialog, that even comes close to matching the words, the feelings, or the time it takes people to authentically have a meaningful romance. I'm a married man, and if I would have used any of the "romance" options available in games, I'd have never even got the the first date, let alone been able to convince my amazing wife she actually wants to spend her life with this nerd.

 

So we have the option for gore... why not for 'romance'?

[shubnabub]

Your kids could see far worse than a tasteful boob in a dragon age game.

[Frozenkex]

i find this post silly. Gore is not a parental control, I dont think kids should play dragon age when they are 8 years old or whatever you are planning, and there are plenty of games that are not M rated that you can let kids play. Like hearthstone or overwatch or whatever. And you said "future parent". In x amount of years Dragon age inquisition will be thing of the past most likely and there will be games much better suited for people of different age groups.

 

I also dont see how using any romance options should affect your irl relationships or marriage. Making ignorant posts like these though could.

[Epyon5757]

The game already has parental controls - right on the box.  In short, if you don't think your kid can handle it or don't want them to handle it...don't buy it.

 

Those ratings exist for a reason, and too few parents actually pay attention to it when their 9 year old wants Call Of Duty or Dragon Age or any other M rated, designed for 17+, game.

 

That being said...most kids have already seen porn by the time they are 12 or 13 these days.  BioWare is, by comparison, G-rated.

[witchknights]

I don't see why, in a game with murder and violence and political intrigue and a whole host of other bad things, it's a natural, non-objectified depiction of a natural part of a romantic relationship between two consenting adults that bothers you. if your sensibilities are such that you don't trust your hypothetical kids to experience this kind of content maturely, or do not trust you can educate them in a way they will not be traumatized by seeing a CG boob before they are in late highschool, well, there's really nothing much that can be done besides trying to prevent them from seeing it.

 

which i'll not understand, really. if anything else, you'd be missing an opportunity to have a mature discussion with your kid about love and sexuality in a safe, controlled environment as they begin to experience these feelings, instead of letting them search for it on their own and be exposed to the much more harmful, violent sexual content that is oh so easily found in online porn.

[Panda]

This is adult entertainment. Not everything needs to be made for kids on mind. There is sex, violence, emotionally hard stuff, some horror (in this game I heard not so much) and other adult topics. The game is 18+ which means that it's illegal to sell it to kids under it so I don't get why kids under it even would have need to play it.

 

There is tons for games and rpg's made in kids for mind. Adult's and kid's entertainment can't always be same at least without sacrificing content that adult or kids like.

[valerie1972]

Actual parent of a teenager, here. My kid is fifteen and we are doing a playthrough together. I do the driving and she makes the choices, and we talk about all the stuff that's happening, both from a lore in-world standpoint and from a broader real-life standpoint.

I agree that if you're more concerned about the nudity and sexual content than the violence and blood you are seriously backward in your priorities. The violence in Inquisition isn't really realistic enough to warrant serious concern, and as I said, we discuss the stuff that's happening while we play so if there is some sort of disturbing imagery she's not digesting it alone.

My main concern with my daughter was whether or not we'd be able to stand the awkwardness of watching the sex scenes if she romanced Iron Bull.

[Teddie Sage]

You shouldn't allow your kids near this game.

[BlacJAC74]

American's are a funny bunch when it comes to this sort of stuff.  More or less immune to the violence, gore and bad language in most films and games, yet show them a side boob and all hell breaks loose.

[Efvie]

If you think that killing people (without cutting limbs off) is okay but boobs is bad… I think pre-parental control sounds like a good idea.

[Joxer]

This game is 18+.

But I disagree with Teddie, there is nothing in this game kids 11 years or above should have nightmares from.

Sadly, parents would probably want to avoid answering on "complicated" questions afterwards, so if you want to keep your kids ignorant, don't let them play this game.

 

In fact your kid would probably kill your pet cat then ask you why it didn't respawn like mobs do in DA3. And you don't want to answer your kid why you think such crap game design is your GOTY.

 

Kids 10 years old or below IMO shouldn't touch videogames at all. Not even educational ones. Kids of that age should go out and get dirty.

[Sartoz]

I feel like RPG's today are completely arbitrarily going for Mature ratings without needing to. The gore in this game is not realistic, no body parts are actually cut off, and the language has gone by largely unnoticed. The sole reason this game gets a M rating, is because of the computerized skin.... which adds nothing to the storytelling experience... so why not include an option to completely preclude a younger player from seeing the gore and the skin?

 

If I wanted to, I could dust off my copies of KOTOR, Neverwinter Nights, and other RPG's and let my kids experience the fun of the combat, storytelling etc without having to worry about much.

 

As a future parent, I lament that I will have to consign my kids to RPG games made before they were born, until they are late in high school or preparing for college.

 

Its especially frustrating in light of the new multiplayer components to games like ME3 and DAI.

 

Not to mention, romance in games is such a contrite and silly thing. There has not been one game, one dialog, that even comes close to matching the words, the feelings, or the time it takes people to authentically have a meaningful romance. I'm a married man, and if I would have used any of the "romance" options available in games, I'd have never even got the the first date, let alone been able to convince my amazing wife she actually wants to spend her life with this nerd.

 

So we have the option for gore... why not for 'romance'?

Word budget is the main reason.

[Axe_Gaijin]

What would you rather have your kids exposed to in real life? Boobies? or someone being murdered?

 

The first they'll eventually see anyway...

[Grieving Natashina]

 

A lot of that going around lately.  

 

Let's just say that I have to wonder about anyone that thinks that a M/PEGI 18+ rated game should be censored for the sake of an audience not intended for the game.  I think it's up to the parent to determine if their teenager can handle this.  It should go without saying that younger kids shouldn't be playing the DA/ME games in the first place.  

 

I'm not going to talk down to any teenager on the forums; if they can handle all the crap that comes with peer pressure and the like from high school, they are mature enough to handle a couple of minutes of T&A.  It isn't like there is a lot of either.   If a parent thinks their teenager can't handle those things, maybe they should have either checked their kids' spending history.  Or checked the rating on the box itself.

 

This is assuming that the OP isn't just trolling us all.  Which I still question.

[Dreamer]

Actual parent of a teenager, here. My kid is fifteen and we are doing a playthrough together. I do the driving and she makes the choices, and we talk about all the stuff that's happening, both from a lore in-world standpoint and from a broader real-life standpoint.

I agree that if you're more concerned about the nudity and sexual content than the violence and blood you are seriously backward in your priorities. The violence in Inquisition isn't really realistic enough to warrant serious concern, and as I said, we discuss the stuff that's happening while we play so if there is some sort of disturbing imagery she's not digesting it alone.

My main concern with my daughter was whether or not we'd be able to stand the awkwardness of watching the sex scenes if she romanced Iron Bull.

 

I would have killed to have a parent like you. Well done!

[Hair Serious Business]

I find funny how people complain about nudity that was presented in DA:I but no one says a word about the way "Witcher 2" handles both nudity and sex-scenes...why is that?

Ah yes of course...that is because people read when it comes to 'Witcher' that is 'M' rated so they don't let their kids near it...but when it comes to both DA and ME despite that it says that is 'M' rated,which means this game was never supposed to be for kids or anyone under 18 but people it seems to forget to read or they just become plainly stupid to understand what word "Mature Rated" game means and they let their kids play it and then they come to complain for no good reason about game that is not for kids in first place  

Seriously,so this is not BW's fault because they gave you a big warning of what you can find in this game and why it's not for kids,so if your kids or whoever that is underage play this game then only one to blame in here is you for letting your kids play video game that is not for them,so this topic is old news,it has been discussed too many times that I lost my count and it's beyond pointless! 

[MooseheadMcMoose]

As a future parent, I lament that I will have to consign my kids to RPG games made before they were born, until they are late in high school or preparing for college.

 

DA:I has an ESRB rating of "Mature" - that means it's not supposed to be played by under-17s.

 

If you're letting your kids play it (younger than 17), then that's your issue as a parent. Don't blame the publisher.

[Steelcan]

Here's your damn parental control

 

[Z.Z]

I am tempted to say "don't encourage your kids to play video games" but...wait, I just said that.
Anyway, I remember very well the kind of stuff I read when I was a kid, so I'd let my kids play DAI without some sort of parental control. Kids know much more than their parents want to believe.
I actually think it's healthier to not taboo sex. But it could just be me.

EDIT: though I'd tell them "your character used some sort of protection". Well, maybe not necessary for Solas...

[SarEnyaDor]

As a parent I play the games first and then decide how mature they actually are. I had no problem with either DAO or DA2, nor with ME. I'm not letting them play DAI for a while, mostly because I'd have to give them a list of people not to romance, and I don't want to censor parts of games (you can only romance Josie! LOL) and I don't think that's fair.

Shoot, I didn't want all that full frontal female nudity (wasn't given the option to see male nudity oddly enough...) so I'm certainly not exposing my kids to it. I'm more than happy not playing through optional romances I don't want to see again (*puke* Sera) but since I don't want to be the video game police, they just aren't going to be allowed this one yet.

It goes on the shelf with games like GTA and Stick of Truth.

[Veritrix]

As a parent and former retail worker I REALLY hope you don't have kids until after you learn to read. You do realize that Mature rating means that children/teenagers under 17 should not play this game? You also realize, if a cashier sold an M rated game to a minor, they would lose their job right? And if nudity is what you are complaining about, then you REALLY need to get your priorities in order. Why is a cg boob so much worse than violence?

 

Besides by the time your kids are interested in playing a video game like Dragon Age they will have already seen plenty of other fake boobs. And real ones too. I say this from being a teenager once. Children aren't as innocent as a lot of parents like to believe.

[CommanderWilliams]

I don't understand why care about whether or not your kid sees a breast. Dragon Age really isn't an M rated game, as far as I can tell. The violence isn't very realistic, and it's much more contained than DA1 or DA2--there are no beheadings froms 1 or fragging from 2. Honestly, I think this game should be T-rated at best, and that isn't a bad thing. We need to stop acting like kids are stupid and can't handle the real-world or virtual simulations of it and the things in it--violence and sex. And does anyone really even care about profanity any more?

[MooseheadMcMoose]

Dragon Age really isn't an M rated game, as far as I can tell.

 

Actually, that's exactly what it's rating is.

[Z.Z]

As a parent and former retail worker I REALLY hope you don't have kids until after you learn to read. You do realize that Mature rating means that children/teenagers under 17 should not play this game? You also realize, if a cashier sold an M rated game to a minor, they would lose their job right? And if nudity is what you are complaining about, then you REALLY need to get your priorities in order. Why is a cg boob so much worse than violence?
 
Besides by the time your kids are interested in playing a video game like Dragon Age they will have already seen plenty of other fake boobs. And real ones too. I say this from being a teenager once. Children aren't as innocent as a lot of parents like to believe.

Agreed. Why is human body so horrible that kids just shouldn't see it? I could never understand the logic behind this kind of censorship.

[Kantr]

In Europe you would say boobs all the time when you go to a beach. They are a lot less prudish about nudity.