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I really liked the framework on DA:I, even if I felt the second half of the story was underdeveloped. I liked it so much that I'd rather see a more improved version of the Inquisition formula instead of a complete reset like DA2 and DA:I were to each other. Similar to how Assassin's Creed makes expanded versions between number installments, I'd rather see Inquisition 2 and 3 before I see DA4. Because the game ends with a lot of the characters unkilled and your power is very set within the land. Why not spend some time telling more tales of the Inquisition beyond DLC, and leave DA4 for a time to reinvent the wheel later?


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I'd rather see 1-2 major DAI expansions, like uh, about boxed expansion expectations. (Along with smaller DLC)

 

Then DA4 in 2017-2018. However, sure, this DA4 could port over and elaborate on DAI aspects.


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So this game has been out since 18th November and you want a sequel? How about we allow Bioware to do whatever they have to do to make THIS game what it should be first?
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So this game has been out since 18th November and you want a sequel? How about we allow Bioware to do whatever they have to do to make THIS game what it should be first?

 
Based on a developer quote, I made a topic about the future of Dragon Age before Inquisition was even released and I was the only person on the thread who was exercising caution about getting excited for DA4 (yes, I know I wouldn't have made the thread if I was really that cautious about it to begin with). The responses opened my eyes a bit: who cares if it's premature to speculate on DA4. It's damn fun and that's all that matters.

 

I would definitely be on board with an Inquisition 2 type sequel. There are a few things I'd add though:

 

Tactics returning from DA:O and DA2.

More urban areas. Kirkwall doesn't mean we don't want cities. Denerim was perfect in terms of size, content and the multiple hub layout of both cities works really well.

More in-depth dialogue with NPCs.

Longer, more detailed side-quests. Establishing a strong narrative arc through each quest in a chain is a good way to provide a feeling of progression.

More clothing customisation options for main character.

 

If everything else stayed the same I'd be more than happy.


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I would love for another Inquisition. I agree that there should be more urban areas (ANTIVA PLEASE <3). I think instead of spreading the city/open area type gameplay across games, they should do it across acts. It would be awesome if in the next game an act was in a city, and then the other 2 were open world or something, so you got a little of both.

 

Other than that.

 

Keep the same amount of dialogue/companion quests/cutscenes (I really don't think they can do significantly more.)

 

Shorter fights. The only gripe I really have with combat is that targets take longer to kill rather than being deadlier. I would love if it had a slider so you could make it so the mobs hit harder and you did as well ( i hear DS had this).



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Based on a developer quote, I made a topic about the future of Dragon Age before Inquisition was even released and I was the only person on the thread who was exercising caution about getting excited for DA4 (yes, I know I wouldn't have made the thread if I was really that cautious about it to begin with). The responses opened my eyes a bit: who cares if it's premature to speculate on DA4. It's damn fun and that's all that matters.

I would definitely be on board with an Inquisition 2 type sequel. There are a few things I'd add though:

Tactics returning from DA:O and DA2.
More urban areas. Kirkwall doesn't mean we don't want cities. Denerim was perfect in terms of size, content and the multiple hub layout of both cities works really well.
More in-depth dialogue with NPCs.
Longer, more detailed side-quests. I get that many of the side-quests in Inquisition were part of longer quest chains, but they didn't feel connected to each other. Establishing a strong narrative arc through each quest in a chain provides a better feeling of progression.
More clothing customisation options for main character.
Storage box and a mirror of transformation (obviously)..

If everything else stayed the same I'd be more than happy.


I am with you in many ways on this but my question to you is why can we not have that in this new game? Why should we have to wait for the next DA game when improvements can be made to inquisition? DLC will add more game content, nothing is to say we will NOT have a series of events that take us to some big city, and have to do a series of quests within it. Nothing is to say content within the game already can not be improved upon, including side quests, including more dialogue with non main story specific characters, including improving the unfortunately lacklustre AI. Not that the AI in DA:O or DA:2 was exactly mind blowing, however mages at least should have sense to NOT run towards enemies, and rangers ought to know how to flank without being directed...is it beyond hope to feel they can fix such issues? Call me crazy, I think we can hope for such.

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I am with you in many ways on this but my question to you is why can we not have that in this new game? Why should we have to wait for the next DA game when improvements can be made to inquisition? DLC will add more game content, nothing is to say we will NOT have a series of events that take us to some big city, and have to do a series of quests within it. Nothing is to say content within the game already can not be improved upon, including side quests, including more dialogue with non main story specific characters, including improving the unfortunately lacklustre AI. Not that the AI in DA:O or DA:2 was exactly mind blowing, however mages at least should have sense to NOT run towards enemies, and rangers ought to know how to flank without being directed...is it beyond hope to feel they can fix such issues? Call me crazy, I think we can hope for such.

I agree. I'm praying for Antiva DLC that adds an arc in between getting skyhold and arbor wilds, or maybe a mini arc there and one after you complete the main storyline.



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I am with you in many ways on this but my question to you is why can we not have that in this new game? Why should we have to wait for the next DA game when improvements can be made to inquisition? DLC will add more game content, nothing is to say we will NOT have a series of events that take us to some big city, and have to do a series of quests within it. Nothing is to say content within the game already can not be improved upon, including side quests, including more dialogue with non main story specific characters, including improving the unfortunately lacklustre AI. Not that the AI in DA:O or DA:2 was exactly mind blowing, however mages at least should have sense to NOT run towards enemies, and rangers ought to know how to flank without being directed...is it beyond hope to feel they can fix such issues? Call me crazy, I think we can hope for such.

 

The easiest way to do that would definitely be through DLC as you suggest; however, integrating that content retroactively into the core game would be a bit of a nightmare from a technical standpoint. Personally, I'd prefer if there was no DLC and instead work started on a sequel (once the patches are out of course), but if DLC gets made - which is pretty much a given - then yes I'd like to see these features implemented in the DLC.



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Though they can make DLC that continues the story, making Inquisition sequels kind of allows them to continue the story of the Inquisitor beyond a short 3 hour mission before or after the main game. I'm thinking of something like Awakening but done better.



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I really liked the framework on DA:I, even if I felt the second half of the story was underdeveloped. I liked it so much that I'd rather see a more improved version of the Inquisition formula instead of a complete reset like DA2 and DA:I were to each other. Similar to how Assassin's Creed makes expanded versions between number installments, I'd rather see Inquisition 2 and 3 before I see DA4. Because the game ends with a lot of the characters unkilled and your power is very set within the land. Why not spend some time telling more tales of the Inquisition beyond DLC, and leave DA4 for a time to reinvent the wheel later?

Good idea, I feel like the Inquisition has a lot of potential that needs more exploring. Maybe the main character could be an inquisition agent of any race/class



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I really like alot of things about this game. I hope they don't just do small DLC but do real old school style mega expansions. $30 Mega Expansion > 4.99 DLC that gives you half of a new mission or something.


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Get Obsidian to develop Inquisition 2. They almost always make games better than the original...
Icewind Dale vs Baldurs Gate
Knights of the Old Republic 2 vs KOTOR 1
New Vegas vs Fallout 3

They always do a quality job.

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They should support the modding community, then wow us with awesome DLC. More clothing options for Skyhold to fit a greater variety of characters, a replacement for the formal attire to fit a greater variety of characters, more scenes with your love interest, more friendshippy moments, more story missions... all these things would be a delight and would impress the wide majority of fans. 

 

I will confess something. Lately, my daily routine has become: 

--Shower, dress, eat

--Go online

--Search 'formal attire mod'

--Feel hope and joy welling within breast

--See same links and feel a swooping sense of dismay (Alistair disapproves -10)

 

So that's how much I want that, and I vote for a DLC for that first. Your LI reacting to you wearing super-sexy duds, and being able to react to them wearing something awesome as well, would be AMAZING. And all of it should be studded with a brooch or pin or necklace bearing the Inquisition's symbol, ornate but crisp and uniform in shape to symbolize the unity of the team, as matching outfits really didn't work and I can't imagine them impressing anyone in Orlais--more drawing laughter and scorn. It would also be relatively simple to implement, I would think. 

 

I might be overruled by others. But gah... I know I am turning into a broken record, but I want to play WEWH, I really do, and I just can't do it again--not like this. It could have been so much better with flattering clothing, which such a fabulous environment demands.

 

Regardless, I am totally with you, TMA Live. I want them to work out the kinks in Inquisition. I think it's their best formula yet. I love how much life there is in the environments and characters. They did something amazing and I am all for fleshing it out even more. Fully willing to buy basically all DLC for this game as long as it's not just practical items with stats on them, mounts, or multiplayer stuff. (I want story content or cosmetic content, or better yet, cosmetic content/further customization of surroundings with a story element. I wouldn't mind if some extra stuff got thrown in, but that's what I'd personally want the focus to be set on.)

 

I did not buy any DLC for DA2 or ME3, and for Origins I only got Awakening, so it's not like I'm not a discriminating customer. I just love Inquisition, and as with TSW I want to support the further development of the game out of pure love for it.


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Get Obsidian to develop Inquisition 2. They almost always make games better than the original...
Icewind Dale vs Baldurs Gate
Knights of the Old Republic 2 vs KOTOR 1
New Vegas vs Fallout 3

They always do a quality job.

Icewind Dale had good tactical combat...but it wasn't half the game Baldur's Gate was. KotOR 2 might have had potential, but it was a rushjob and it showed. KotOR 1 was better because it was finished. New Vegas was better than Fallout 3 though.



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Yes, I agree. It's about time DA finds a focal point for a while and the inquisition seems to be a great one. After every DA the story becomes more disconnected from the others. I don't even know where BW is trying to take DA.

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 Why not spend some time telling more tales of the Inquisition beyond DLC, and leave DA4 for a time to reinvent the wheel later?

I'd be much happier buying a book. it's cheaper and my two hands are the perfect controllers and it won't crash nor freeze on me. My natural occular implants work fine.. no small text here. As for tactics and AI... Pffft.. who needs them?

 

Seriously, what tales, with combat, can they whip up? Unless, you are viewing the Tales from a far distant future where the past Histories are a bit muddy and you have a Varric like story teller?


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I generally would like an expansion or expansion scale DLC content as many have stated above. I've enjoyed my time with Dragon Age: Inquisition and I'd like to experience more. I'm not quite ready for a sequel, but I'm not averse to near "sequel-scale" ambitious content packs for DAI.

 

Inquisition has left me with a desire to further immerse/invest in the universe and the characters. Hopefully BioWare can try something of an add-on like Dragon Age: Awakening that remains cost efficient on their end.

 

In regards to Inquisition 2 being the premise of the next Dragon Age, I'm definitely interested in seeing where that could go. Constantly changing stories isn't terrible, but I wouldn't mind a sequel sticking to the same protagonist/companions once in awhile.



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I don't especially care for the Inquisitor as a protagonist, so I would rather they move on to something new. Switching protagonists each game also serves to allow the writers to jump to a new place, with (mostly) new characters, and limited baggage from the previous stories. Doing Inquisition 2 (just typing that makes my skin crawl), would mean carrying a lot of story baggage into the new game, making it harder for new people to jump in and limiting what the writers could do. Take the (theorised) plan for DA4 to be in Tevinter; it's far away from all the stories we have seen of Dragon Age thus far, so there is minimal story and character baggage to carry over from the previous games allowing the devs to make a fresh start without having to worry about who rules Ferelden or Orlais, whether the mages or Templars came out on top of their war, who the White Divine is, who romanced who, who is alive and who is dead from the previous games, etc. Doing DAI2 would handcuff them to the minutiae of what has come before. Starting afresh gives them far more freedom to do what they want.

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I think it's an interesting OP, when you consider that the technical features in this game are awesome. If BW keep up with the hard work improving gameplay (meaning tactics, AI, spells/skills, and other requests from the community) and work just a little bit on the camera to make it more stable, they could just release sequels in less time. Think about a Dragon Age game every year or so, sounds appealing to me.



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ewwww no way time to move on to something fresh in new for dragon age 4.



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Sequel?  Nah, I'd rather not see a direct continuation of the Inquisitor's story, outside of DLCs/Expansions.

 

Using Inquisition as a base for building DA4?  Yeah, I'm all on board for that.  I actually like most of the gameplay features in this - and would love to see them expanded upon for the next installment.  I believe, however, that was always the intention. 



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At least an expansion (similar to Awakening perhaps, but obviously on a much larger scale hopefully) for Inquisition is a must for me at this point before we move onto a new hero. At the War Table, Leliana and Cullen talk a few times about rifts beyond the Inquisition's reach (assumably not Orlais and Fereldan), so I'm hoping for an expansion that leads into the Anderfels, more of the Free Marches, Antiva, Tevinter, Nevarra, etc.

 

The Last Flight has sort of cliff hangers that I'd love to see properly dealt with in the game (not whatever the hell the 'Winter Palace' thing was supposed to be).



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I'd rather see 1-2 major DAI expansions, like uh, about boxed expansion expectations. (Along with smaller DLC)

 

Then DA4 in 2017-2018. However, sure, this DA4 could port over and elaborate on DAI aspects.

why just 2? make it 3 or 4 huge Expansion, The setting in Inquisition is huge  2 expansions will not suffice